Nymphomania (anti-FG) + stats

[pikachufan2164]

whats a long sword?

It's a weapon. It costs 1 generic quantum to play, and does 5 damage per turn.

More info here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2019.0.html)

[Memoria]

Much like how it only takes three fireflies to negate the health you're getting back from a light dragon, if there's over a dozen little enemies they ARE going to wear down the various +2 or +5 healths you get.

I was talking "About paradox" ...

The phrase "much like" would imply that yes, I did in fact read what you wrote and was making a comparison involving the spamming of many smaller monsters because both situations cause the same problem.

I will wait less if several small creatures are in field of course but i guess you see my point: You don't need to get 300 life per turn. As long as you don't lose too much, you're fine. Elemental Masteries are a nice bonus indeed but i myself don't mind to just win. Each new chance to get an upgraded card from spins is worth more than the 121 coins i get by an elemental master, this is specially true when i can play the most games possible in the less time possible:

At what point exactly did you get the idea I care about elemental masteries and gaining 300 life a round? My entire point was that yes, I was losing too much health and it cost me some matches. If there are ten fireflies on the board and they're dishing out 40 damage a round while I keep trying to debuff them one at a time (two at a time if I'm lucky), having one or two dragons giving me health isn't going to do squat long enough to kill that FG before I die. Paradox can be the same way, although less dramatic due to lack of dragons. But fifteen little 1/1 or 2/2 or 3/3 beasts is death for this deck, because even if it's 15 1/1 critters you're still taking 15 damage plus 14 the next round (after debuffing one) plus 13 the next and 12 the next...happened a few times, yeah. Especially since debuffs are slowed once you run low on quantum.

Although I think a bigger complaint might be the fact that Miracle should probably not be dropping 2-4 FFQ in a match along with two varieties of dragons and assorted small monsters and Blessing left and right AND Improved Miracle now. I thought the firefly spam was Fire Queen's gimmick, honestly.

EDIT: I'm really liking that Emerald Shield suggestion, with or without upgrade that might help lessen the pain of the occasional bad bout of tiny monster spam. And as I just got my Morning Glory I may as well try that one in there too.

EDIT 2: Got myself in a match with Miracle using zhen's deck minus the two shards and keeping my fourth Quintessence. Miracle didn't pull out any FFQ for me to test the shield with, but just the same there was a definite difference. And I landed a second Morning Glory too, how's that?  8) Now to go find Paradox and see if he's gonna play cheap with me again today.

[zhen_rogue]

EDIT: I'm really liking that Emerald Shield suggestion, with or without upgrade that might help lessen the pain of the occasional bad bout of tiny monster spam. And as I just got my Morning Glory I may as well try that one in there too.

EDIT 2: Got myself in a match with Miracle using zhen's deck minus the two shards and keeping my fourth Quintessence. Miracle didn't pull out any FFQ for me to test the shield with, but just the same there was a definite difference. And I landed a second Morning Glory too, how's that?  8) Now to go find Paradox and see if he's gonna play cheap with me again today.

I tried the upped version of Emerald Shield... and while the -2 damage is very nice, it's not worth the extra 2 casting cost (now 7 total).
The main use of the shield is reflect, secondary is immaterial, and the -1 dmg is just bonus. With a casting cost of 5, you can realistically get it out early or mid-game (2 supernovas and a lucky QT, or 3 supernovas). The 7 cost meant that I had it in my hand the whole game, and was only able to cast it rarely (if ever).

I also dropped the 4th quintessence because for some reason, my "random" seed always seems to give me 3 of them by turn 5 - the 4th one was simply getting in my way as an extra card (you only need 2, and maybe only 1 for most FGs).
That's just me though, by all means use 4 if you get better draw results that way.

[Terroking]

Zhen, did you try Light's mirror shield? Upped it has the same exact effects of unupped emerald, but only costs 2 quanta. And even unupped, it still reflects and is protected.

[Bu3no2]

Zhen, did you try Light's mirror shield? Upped it has the same exact effects of unupped emerald, but only costs 2 quanta. And even unupped, it still reflects and is protected.

I think the point of using Empathic Shield is to balance quanta usage. Overall, it's basically a matter of 4 Supernova's to cast Morning Glory + Mirror Shield (7x ), or 3 Supernova's to cast Morning Glory + Empathic Bond (5x + 5x ) for the exact same effect.

I guess one could also argue that casting Mirror Shield is a whole lot easier hence it can better help defend yourself in case of bad draws (assuming you had your 1 Mirror Shield in your starting hand), so I can see how it could make sense to use it.

[Terroking]

Yes, if you really wanted you could just use the unupped shield and have a total cost of 6, and usually by te time you have both cards you will have the quanta to play them  (Also mirror shield can be played much cheaper on its own, off of only 1 supernova).

[zhen_rogue]

Using the Mirror Shiled is indeed a great choice, with any other weapon (or lack of weapon).
The only reason I passed to the Emerald, was simply due to minimizing quanta usage.
I love the big-ass 8dmg Morning Glory, and I love that it can't be stolen/exploded.

I'm still experimenting with weapons and shields, I really like the Pulverizer/Mirror Shield combo - but you essentially can't use it versus any god that steals.
When the opponent gets a pulverizer, you're basically screwed - as this deck is very very tower-dependent.

I'm planning on trying the Long Sword/Mirror Shield combo next.
I want to test exactly how far up on the 1.18 priority list the Long Sword is for explosions, steals, and if the AI is smart enough to overwrite a stolen LS with its own, better weapon.

[Memoria]

I'm still experimenting with weapons and shields, I really like the Pulverizer/Mirror Shield combo - but you essentially can't use it versus any god that steals.
When the opponent gets a pulverizer, you're basically screwed - as this deck is very very tower-dependent.

What about Protect Artifact? Sure it adds another card to the deck and you're stuck waiting for it vs. a steal-using god, but it's only one earth quanta and you're gonna have that easily.

Crud, I need to go farm a Pulverizer. I never have any luck hitting the good decks on Top50.

[ivalmian]

So, can someone post some updated stats on this deck(s)? I'm really curious but don't want to invest into upping so many cards    (and i don't have time/desire to sit for a few days in trainer..)

[ghy]

I started with this deck and I'm 2 wins to 8 losses.
I have bad luck falling on FG impossible or difficult.

I still play and I'll post my stats.

[ghy]

What can I say?
Maybe I'm very unlucky on the draw false gods? I've played almost against difficult and impossible FG.
Maybe I'm very unlucky on the draw cards? Most of the time with my 7 cards in hand + 6 rounds of play (the time it takes the false gods to kill you), I still need something.
- Let no Amethist Tower
- Let no Sapphire Tower and only 3 Supernova not enough to play a Nymph's Tear which costs 7
- Let no Quintessence

It's incomprehensible!
Why Fire-queen and Rainbow are always high on my stats on the number of match played? The draw is not random? I already noticed that playing the 40 cards rainbow Deck.

Even more incomprehensible, but the good side?
Why my rate card won is 70%?

[Jangoo]

I tried your Nymphomania deck in the trainer and I must say:

 Good job!

It may by far not be as effective as a classic rainbow but at least its a nice variety to the same old - same old.

Also, I love the fact that if you do win, its going to be an automatic EM-win.