Nymphomania (anti-FG) + stats

[mafidufa]

I have been using this with a fire buckler in it which helps with small creature spam/immortals/shriekers. Plus anti-creatures don't get hit by it so it doesn't mess up your healing.

[WayneCore]

i know that would make the deck a bit larger but what about adding some obsidian towers and ~2 steals?
that would help against e.g. hermes fire shield...
and if there is nothing useful to steal, you can still steal a pillar and turn it into a nymph ;]

I have been using this with a fire buckler in it which helps with small creature spam/immortals/shriekers. Plus anti-creatures don't get hit by it so it doesn't mess up your healing.

nice one i guess ...

i'll have to try the deck with eternity [and 1-2protect artifacts] i suppose ... no decking out would make this deck better, wouldnt it?
at least i hope so ...

[pikachufan2164]

I have been using this with a fire buckler in it which helps with small creature spam/immortals/shriekers. Plus anti-creatures don't get hit by it so it doesn't mess up your healing.

Interesting idea -- antimattered creatures actually don't get hit by the Fire Shield! This could be useful; I'll have a quick FG-theory post about it soon.

i know that would make the deck a bit larger but what about adding some obsidian towers and ~2 steals?
that would help against e.g. hermes fire shield...
and if there is nothing useful to steal, you can still steal a pillar and turn it into a nymph ;]

i'll have to try the deck with eternity [and 1-2protect artifacts] i suppose ... no decking out would make this deck better, wouldnt it?
at least i hope so ...

More Obsidian Pillars, yes. Steals, I don't really know. Most of the early game, this deck struggles to find  quanta to use Liquid Shadow (either as a spell, or from the Black Nymph's ability). Perhaps I could include some thoughts about it in that FG-theory post I alluded to....

Eternity generally isn't needed for this deck -- it will either win or be ridiculously crushed by the time you draw through the deck. Also, 6 Supernovas only provides 12 quanta -- that's only enough for playing the card, and 2 uses of its ability. That doesn't justify Eternity's anti-decking out measures.

Protect Artifact is an interesting idea to protect Pulverizer or Towers from being stolen or destroyed. The only problems with it are that it takes 2 PAs to protect both stacks of Towers from Seism, and that Nymph's Tears won't work on protected Towers (at least in the trainer). Using 1 for Pulverizer is still a nice idea, though.

[Violenceisanart]

Quint are most definitely needed for gemini. You said he has no creature control. I'm fairly sure that electrocutor of his will stop unquinted nymphs dead in their tracks.

[pikachufan2164]

Quint are most definitely needed for gemini. You said he has no creature control. I'm fairly sure that electrocutor of his will stop unquinted nymphs dead in their tracks.

Quintessence is already included (a whopping 4 copies of it, I believe) in rainingblood's latest build of the deck. Also, if Pulverizer comes out before Electrocutor does, then it won't be a problem.

[mafidufa]

I have been using this with a fire buckler in it which helps with small creature spam/immortals/shriekers. Plus anti-creatures don't get hit by it so it doesn't mess up your healing.

Interesting idea -- antimattered creatures actually don't get hit by the Fire Shield! This could be useful; I'll have a quick FG-theory post about it soon.

The other shield that works well with antimatter, which is what I am currently using, is the Turtle shield. Antimattered creatures don't miss a turn, so you effectively get double healing, plus creatures with pesky skills, Fire Queen Fallen Elf Otyugh, can only use them once every 2 turns. It has kept me alive more than once.
The only problem is in the late game when you have more than enough healing but are looking for damage, any new creature they put out is going to take an extra turn time bubbled before it starts doing the vampire damage. Sometimes I will destroy my shield once I have control of the board so that their creatures can be doing the damage as soon as possible. Because decking out really sucks.

i know that would make the deck a bit larger but what about adding some obsidian towers and ~2 steals?
that would help against e.g. hermes fire shield...
and if there is nothing useful to steal, you can still steal a pillar and turn it into a nymph ;]

i'll have to try the deck with eternity [and 1-2protect artifacts] i suppose ... no decking out would make this deck better, wouldnt it?
at least i hope so ...

Protect Artifact is an interesting idea to protect Pulverizer or Towers from being stolen or destroyed. The only problems with it are that it takes 2 PAs to protect both stacks of Towers from Seism, and that Nymph's Tears won't work on protected Towers (at least in the trainer). Using 1 for Pulverizer is still a nice idea, though.

Yeah, you can't use Protect Artifact on your towers before you turn them into Nymphs. I found that out the hard way. Still PA is a pretty useful card for this deck.

ETA: My current deck
8 Amethyst Tower
6 Supernova
3 Imp. Antimatter
1 Adrenaline - can be unupgraded, doesn't matter since it costs 2 supernovas anyway
1 Pulverizer
1 Protect Artifact - sometimes I leave this out, still not sure if its worth it
4 Nymphs Tears
1 Wind Tower - gotta love those unstable gases. gotta hate those mirror and emerald shields
3 Obsidian Towers
4 Quintessence

[Jangoo]

Mafiadude, how do those 8 Towers work for you?

I actually started out with 8 too and was quite satisfied but then I had a series of "bad draws" I guess: Having to run on none or 1 Ameth.Tower forever sucks.
So I went back to 9 or 10 Towers to avoid this problem.

[Clathius]

What would be the point of adrenline?  Are you using it on your creatures or the AIs?

I am looking forward to building this deck.  I'll probably start upgrading cards to build it tonight. 

[pikachufan2164]

The Adrenaline would be for enemy creatures once they've been hit with Antimatter. There's nothing quite like getting multiple doses of healing from a single creature.

I wouldn't advise using Adrenaline on a creature that's been targeted by both Antimatter and Liquid Shadow unless its attack power is 3 or less, though.

[WayneCore]

Yeah, you can't use Protect Artifact on your towers before you turn them into Nymphs. I found that out the hard way. Still PA is a pretty useful card for this deck.

what about taking 1-2 upped and else unupped [or the other way round] pillars into the deck? you can protect one pile and only play the other one when you need a nymph

btw
question
does an upped pila grant you an upped nymph?

I wouldn't advise using Adrenaline on a creature that's been targeted by both Antimatter and Liquid Shadow unless its attack power is 3 or less, though.

so also if the power is extremely low [eg -10] adrenaline doesnt work well anymore?

[pikachufan2164]

I wouldn't advise using Adrenaline on a creature that's been targeted by both Antimatter and Liquid Shadow unless its attack power is 3 or less, though.

so also if the power is extremely low [eg -10] adrenaline doesnt work well anymore?

It's more like the Liquid Shadow's poison activates during each bonus attack that Adrenaline grants, and if the bonus attacks are not at the same power as the first attack, you're not putting the creature to good use.

For example, you Adrenaline a 4/3 creature that's been Antimattered and Liquid Shadowed (so it's now -4/3, and poisoned for 1). When the creature attacks, it now heals you and damages your opponent for 4+3+2 = 9 damage in one turn, but then it dies immediately after from the poison.

Without Adrenaline, it will heal you and damage your opponent for 4+4+4 = 12 damage over the three turns it's alive.

So, you end up wasting 3 damage for the privilege of doing all that damage in one turn as opposed to spacing it out.

Note that there's no wasting of damage on creatures of power 3 or below -- creatures with a power of 3 will heal you and attack your opponent for 3+3+3+3 = 12 damage per turn, while taking 4 damage from the Liquid Shadow's poison, which is the exact same as 3 damage per turn, for 4 turns.

[mafidufa]

What would be the point of adrenline?  Are you using it on your creatures or the AIs?

Pikachufan has it right. http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Adrenaline (http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Adrenaline) has a table showing adrenaline/epinephrine damage at each attack level.

Examples of places I have found it useful

Fire Queen- on one of her fire queens
Gemini - Colossal Dragons - one of the few creatures you should use it together with liquid shadow. Not that this deck needs any help with Gemini
Paradox - an unbuffed Deja Vu. If you get it before it splits, that's 16 healing instead of 4
Chaos Lord - Fallen Druid.  They are 3 attack plus they aren't going to mutate themselves
Rainbow/Seism - A shrieker that burrows before you have your dark nymph out.

Mafiadude, how do those 8 Towers work for you?

I actually started out with 8 too and was quite satisfied but then I had a series of "bad draws" I guess: Having to run on none or 1 Ameth.Tower forever sucks.
So I went back to 9 or 10 Towers to avoid this problem.

Lol at 'Mafiadude' I can see how you would misread that.
+Karma for the cool nickname, um wait I can't give Karma yet. +Invisible Karma

I have had more issues with getting all of 2 Supernova, 1 Quint, 1 Nymph's Tears soon enough. Its pretty often that I'm sitting just waiting for the last one to turn up and keep drawing pillars, even with 8. I went for the smaller deck size instead of more quantum. Generally i have at least 2 Amethyst pillars by the time my Nymph gets out and I might just have to wait an extra turn to get the 4 quanta before I can antimatter the next critter. Seism and gods that explode pillars are probably easier with 9 or 10 Am. pillars.

question
does an upped pila grant you an upped nymph?

Yes it does. An upped antimatter nymph is 3/2, unupped is 3/1 so no real difference there. I'm not sure about the dark nymphs unupped, but upped is 5/5