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Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158278#msg1158278
« on: October 03, 2014, 06:21:24 pm »
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(if anyone can claim an earlier posting, lemme know)

this deck is great!  draws lots of cards, abuses the AI while shutting down dexterity advantage, infinite rewind, slightly higher health pool from nightmare drains (not to be underestimated in close matches)

wins games it doesnt seem like it should through solid decision making and understanding of the unique way it attacks the platinum decks.  often if the AIs first 8-12 cards cant beat you, you lock them out of the game and they never get to draw what they need to fightback 

drawbacks?  can have dud games with no nymph draw engine / no eternity vs rush / 1 pillar starts.  very weak to rewind, discord, poison, decks with untargetable creatures, 2+ sanctuary in play


any feedback would be great, especially new ideas.   :-*  gold nymphs  :-*

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OPPONENT + RECORD, COINFLIP, DECK TYPE, # of TURNS, win/loss?, RECAP

greg_kati 3-1 1st cremation golem 6 L two pillar start too weak

SameLee 4-1 2nd rainbow 6 L 20 damage x4 turns

Run4ZHills 3-1 2nd SoS rainbow 10 L octopus + cloak + steal.  needed SoR 1 turn sooner

MegroN 17-3 1st earth darkness 7 L murdered by earthquake

elessar 38-11 2nd rainbow 8 W turn 2 nymph nightmare vs 1 quantum pillar

HORRORLORD 5-1 2nd dune scorp ghostmare w/ blessing 12 W turn 1 eternity, precog doesnt add to neurotoxin. won Poseidon

theelkspeaks 3-2 2nd earth nymph 12 L razor close, choice to rewind a nymph or shrieker before burrow early, maybe same either way

juanlvo 0-2 2nd morning star SoD 11 W flying morning star, no sanct = nightmare knocked two miracles out. AI abuse :)

go-wiles 1-1 1st grabboid EQ 11 W survived double EQ turn 3, excellent recovery with SoR nymph draw engine. won Arctic Octopus

Raruk 6-4 2nd SoB gravity 10 W charger w/ acceleration tagged us a few times, but otherwise a lock down

--------------5-5 for 1st 10 games.  that ugly 0-4 start ended 5-1 thank goodness-----------

Sackett 38-11 2nd mono fire phoenix 5 L fifteen cards, no nymph. /shrug

memimemi 10-3 2nd life/death 15 W-EM lifegain and toxin but easy   

st29 29-8 2nd discord gravity 9 L turn 1 discord, turn 2 black hole + flying discord#2. black hole spam. 7 pillars early and still lost

asdfmany 13-4 2nd mono aether 10 L four phase shields + plenty of quantum + lobo + phase dragon.  meh

Afdarenty 2 6-0 1st flying titan 10 W crusader miracle version. excellent matchup and expected win

Schlonz 4-2 2nd mono light 12 W stole the one sanctuary that mattered. able to tank morning glory + dragon, miracle never happened. no spin win

haijanaiga 6-1 2nd ghostmare 9 L three rewinds. basically a skip unless you get perfect hand vs weak one

birdwatcherIIin 2nd 13-2 mono aether 6 L turn 2 phase w/ SoW

gin 9-1 1st mono darkness 15 W very lucky pest mostly grabbed time quantum.  able to nightmare and get things going

liquidsnake 2-1 2nd mono time 10 L bad matchup, facing eternity and procrastination all game. slow death

----------4-6 for 2nd 10 games.  not bad, probably could have been 3-7 or 5-5 easily--------

WakoTabacco 9-4 1st mono fire 7 L two pillar for several turns = too slow, needed full flying combo, didnt happen

gin 9-2 1st mono darkness 11 L rematch, two steals + two pests vs 3 starting pillars and no pillar followup draws.  great hand, wrong matchup

Iariane 2-0 1st flying air/life 13 W first nymph sniped, able to rewind long enough to comeback

ChristopherZ9 10-4 1st mono water 13 W back and forth.  permafrost shield vs my slow start, eternity w/ SoR x2 + steal saved me. won vampire dagger

Tarakx 1-0 1st life/death weapon/poison 12 W satisfying to see flying weapon and adren in hand but no creature

lim-dul 1-0 1st mono darkness 8 L nine pillars in first 12 cards.  very VERY risky to play naked eternity, didnt. dud game

3d house of beef 11-2 2nd fire/earth golems 7 L quicksand/explosion spam. ouch

[rank 9] qzecwx 20-1 1st mono water 9 L permashield froze 2/2.  no luck, no chance

antsu 16-4 2nd mono poison 8 L poison that ignored the oracle card, the worst kind of cancer

doener5dm 10-3 1st mono aether 10 W two unupped immortals, not enough pressure to kill me

marboro 1-1 2nd earth w/ nymph 10 L earthquake sucks

infocline2 27-3 1st mono darkness 8 W nightmare on my nymph didnt work out well for him :)

aquaone 4-3 1st earth/water 13 W wiggled out of a permashield + ulitharid combo. won shard of readiness

sodomag 1-0 1st mono death 10 L unchecked arsenic wrecked me

gomorycut 8-2 2nd mono air 9 L three SoF + Wyrm turn 1.  would have autoquit but doing this.  15 immortal damage ignore shield OP

AtomicPenguin 9-2 2nd pharoah 11 W sorta close, AI not consistent on rewind/scarab/pooling quantum.  managed to win

mkm-30-7 2-2 1st air eagle 14 W accidentally pushed spacebar lost a turn. fortunately super weak damage. no spin card

-----------17 more games 8-9----------------

tttt 25-2 2nd mono darkness 6 L could have been close if another pillar a turn earlier instead of 3 nymphs

serpp 14-3 2nd mono aether 6 L see last game

vincent jeff 2-2 2nd earth EQ 6 L quicksand.  going 2nd vs turn 6 decks feels ugly

mirland 12-5 1st air nymph 9 W smooth game. AI deck mostly unupped (gratz on nymph from oracle)

moochsms 6-1 2nd supernova 11 L played eternity blind, AI had pulvy.  50 quantum before nymph. one of those dud draws

tornskin2 10-4 2nd water/earth 11 W been wrecked by quicksand so much lately, actually slowplayed pillars. unnecessary, easy win

kloop 9-3 2nd mono aether 6 L phase dragon w/ 4 SoW vs 2 pillars? ugh

tsosmi 0-0 2nd death/time 11 W plague and time dragon, but i think it was supposed to skeleton + rewind + SoR. timely eternity combo

HeadlessT 0-0 1st rainbow 9 L great start, nymph turn 2.  discord + octopus + random SoR. discord denying darkness, SoF denying eternity

RavingRabbid 3-2 2nd cremation golem 18 W *PSA* : AI is dumb and doesnt cremate minor phoenix

skIll3t 5-2 2nd earth w/ nymph 15 W nightmared earth nymph + eternity stalled. not a pretty line of play to win, but it worked. won SoB card

-----------11 games 5-6  SoF air been far less common than i expected-------------------

Nautalis. 15-5 1st light/gravity 11 W-EM opponent with 2 miracles in hand + not enough quantum.  good times

dalsen 4-3 2nd entropy w/ nymph 16 W antimatter spam, but far too slow + nymphs too easy to eternity bounce spam (mine + his). won SoSac card

gocubs1212 16-0 2nd cremation golem 7 L really lame loss.  a single more pillar early, thats all we needed

sabbah 1-0 1st poison 8 L arsenic + poison spam

Brusterix 9-1 1st hope poison 10 L bizarre game. actually shocked i lost, SoR hiding at bottom of deck

Nephrit 8-1 2nd slow rainbow 12 W slow bow gets stomped. fast bow on the other hand...

hguy64 10-5 2nd mono death 9 L my deck tried so hard to win, but 1st turn arsenic is death

Skip_lou 14-4 2nd mono gravity 8 L three SoFocus + both eternity in last 10 cards

@the_schroeder 1-0 1st slow bow 10 W easy win

physsion 15-2 2nd gravity discord 13 L black hole, discord, discord. almost come back but discord LOVES shuffling darkness away

scauduro221095 4-2 2nd supernova w/ discord 16 W stole a sanctuary that healed + turned off discord. die discord die

---------------11 games 5-6 again----------------~45% win rate so far--------------

*update* 11/19  testing a version that looks like this

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totally a rainbow, but testing if its possible to improve the deck by including some answers to auto-lose scenarios (immortal wisdom, poison specifically).  the downside is the stress on the time quantum.  the upside is hoser cards that are ok generally plus some possible anti-pest resilience?
« Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 03:31:28 pm by zombie0 »
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Re: Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158281#msg1158281
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2014, 06:47:51 pm »
It'll be a bit hard for people to share in this deck outside of using the Trainer, since the majority of people playing probably don't have 5 Golden Nymphs, let alone upgraded ones.
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Re: Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158285#msg1158285
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 07:13:15 pm »
I like the idea, but I miss the damage from ghosts. Not that it is needed of course. Do you think it would work better or worse without readiness?
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Re: Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158379#msg1158379
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2014, 11:43:22 am »
The title says it's for Platinum league. Did anyone test it? If yes, what are the stats?
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Re: Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158393#msg1158393
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2014, 01:21:30 pm »

I lolled. A deck called "time/darkness duo" that uses 3 elements, posted in the trio/quartet section.

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Re: Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158400#msg1158400
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2014, 02:42:40 pm »
Do you think it would work better or worse without readiness?
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Re: Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158401#msg1158401
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2014, 02:49:04 pm »
I think you should use a deja vu, since you'll draw a lot of cards, you will eventually deck out and you wouldn't want to keep RT-ing a nymph. Also, deja vu+RT can be a combo (not really a good one, but you can get a lot of deja vu out this way by using the ability, RT one of them, play the new one, use ability, RT again etc)

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Re: Nymph-mare (time/darkness duo) (platinum) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55947.msg1158554#msg1158554
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2014, 02:14:03 pm »
oops!  did read the how-to before posting and STILL overlooked the flying weapon /facepalm

sorry :-[


devavu is a very interesting idea.  i would say that you dont normally lose from lack of damage (you max out at 7x5 + 4 + 4 = 43 per turn).  if they have a huge shield your 1 steal cant deal with, deva vu is not the answer (with the exception of gravity shield, but thats such a low priority for the AI to keep when you nightmare them, its not a thing.  nymph precog allows you to see exactly what you need to play around).  it does give you something to do with eternity vs decks you cant target, but youre in a horrible spot anyways and need to combo off asap.  you are never ever losing from not being able to pay for a rewind + nymph.  ever.  like hundreds of games never.  your flying eternity's rewind is usually free from SoR and 8 quantum for a nymph after you draw your deck is also nothing.

readiness is godly in this deck.  was playing a meh version before without it and its nowhere as crazy powerful.  you can win games from eternity flying SoR combo against boards that are otherwise unwinnable.   you slice through your deck fast enough to chain nightmares so they throw away miracles and cripple themselves.  you are praying for SoR constantly, the actual question would be more how many is correct.  i feel 4 functions well, but its such a hard thing to test.

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« Last Edit: October 05, 2014, 03:55:18 pm by zombie0 »
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