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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg491902#msg491902
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2012, 06:44:34 am »
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A slightly altered version

Less electrocutor, no sanctuary, more towers:
More valuable to decks with momentum and poison, but could develop an army of RoL faster

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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg491941#msg491941
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2012, 09:23:43 am »
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Less electrocutor, no sanctuary, more towers:
More valuable to decks with momentum and poison, but could develop an army of RoL faster
Because focused grinding will be always good  :D
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg492684#msg492684
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2012, 01:12:50 pm »
Fun deck but ultra vulnerable to CC and PC.  Played it a few times and got rocked by plague, firestorm, steal, pulvy, explosion, etc. :(  Wish patience increased your HPs some :)

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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg501433#msg501433
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2012, 05:39:23 pm »
how about this variation:

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less stable, but considerably faster and much more CC-resistant

EDIT: forget that, takes too long to setup ><
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg501441#msg501441
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2012, 05:47:25 pm »
Fun deck but ultra vulnerable to CC and PC.  Played it a few times and got rocked by plague, firestorm, steal, pulvy, explosion, etc. :(  Wish patience increased your HPs some :)
Mass CC beats this deck, as the standard RoL-Hope. I will add some  :earth pends a 2 PAs, because the advantage is the non-fight between the RoLs and the dragons against high healing FGs.

It works amazing in Plat!!! Notice that most of the decks are pesty decks or massive BH ones and this deck is quanta control immune  ;D
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg539475#msg539475
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2012, 01:41:22 pm »
Great improvement for grinding to RoL/Hope . Much more win rate against elidnis,ferox,miracle,divine glory,...
For the unupped version,i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much. Otherwise,1 fractal is required for the start. And you can complete your stalling and attacking with the second one. Others for draw chance,so,5 is a bit overkill.
Other than that,great deck!
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg539485#msg539485
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2012, 02:23:16 pm »
Great improvement for grinding to RoL/Hope . Much more win rate against elidnis,ferox,miracle,divine glory,...
For the unupped version,i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much. Otherwise,1 fractal is required for the start. And you can complete your stalling and attacking with the second one. Others for draw chance,so,5 is a bit overkill.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg539487#msg539487
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2012, 02:37:34 pm »
Great improvement for grinding to RoL/Hope . Much more win rate against elidnis,ferox,miracle,divine glory,...
For the unupped version,i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much. Otherwise,1 fractal is required for the start. And you can complete your stalling and attacking with the second one. Others for draw chance,so,5 is a bit overkill.
Other than that,great deck!

Miracle and Divine Glory aren't problems, you just need a brain to win against them.
I didnt say they are problems :P But win rate is clearly greater than standart rol/hope
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg539490#msg539490
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2012, 02:57:37 pm »
Great improvement for grinding to RoL/Hope . Much more win rate against elidnis,ferox,miracle,divine glory,...
For the unupped version,i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much. Otherwise,1 fractal is required for the start. And you can complete your stalling and attacking with the second one. Others for draw chance,so,5 is a bit overkill.
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Miracle and Divine Glory aren't problems, you just need a brain to win against them.
I didnt say they are problems :P But win rate is clearly greater than standart rol/hope

No, winrate would be lower against those 2 just because less quanta, it's just a matter of stalling, really.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg539517#msg539517
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2012, 04:31:29 pm »
Great improvement for grinding to RoL/Hope . Much more win rate against elidnis,ferox,miracle,divine glory,...
For the unupped version,i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much. Otherwise,1 fractal is required for the start. And you can complete your stalling and attacking with the second one. Others for draw chance,so,5 is a bit overkill.
Other than that,great deck!

Miracle and Divine Glory aren't problems, you just need a brain to win against them.
I didnt say they are problems :P But win rate is clearly greater than standart rol/hope

No, winrate would be lower against those 2 just because less quanta, it's just a matter of stalling, really.
Didn't you read what i say ? 'i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much'
With only 4,its not that stressed.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg539524#msg539524
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2012, 04:57:53 pm »
Great improvement for grinding to RoL/Hope . Much more win rate against elidnis,ferox,miracle,divine glory,...
For the unupped version,i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much. Otherwise,1 fractal is required for the start. And you can complete your stalling and attacking with the second one. Others for draw chance,so,5 is a bit overkill.
Other than that,great deck!

Miracle and Divine Glory aren't problems, you just need a brain to win against them.
I didnt say they are problems :P But win rate is clearly greater than standart rol/hope

No, winrate would be lower against those 2 just because less quanta, it's just a matter of stalling, really.
Didn't you read what i say ? 'i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much'
With only 4,its not that stressed.

Don't even try to contradict with me, I played too much with RoL/hope to not know the deck well, you need fast quanta for first Fractal, so more towers needed at start.
After all you didn't respond my question, why would this deck have better winrate against Divine Glory and Miracle?
You just need a brain after you got a big enough shield.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg539526#msg539526
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2012, 05:20:15 pm »
Great improvement for grinding to RoL/Hope . Much more win rate against elidnis,ferox,miracle,divine glory,...
For the unupped version,i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much. Otherwise,1 fractal is required for the start. And you can complete your stalling and attacking with the second one. Others for draw chance,so,5 is a bit overkill.
Other than that,great deck!

Miracle and Divine Glory aren't problems, you just need a brain to win against them.
I didnt say they are problems :P But win rate is clearly greater than standart rol/hope

No, winrate would be lower against those 2 just because less quanta, it's just a matter of stalling, really.
Didn't you read what i say ? 'i'd drop a fractal because it stresses :aether too much'
With only 4,its not that stressed.

Don't even try to contradict with me, I played too much with RoL/hope to not know the deck well, you need fast quanta for first Fractal, so more towers needed at start.
After all you didn't respond my question, why would this deck have better winrate against Divine Glory and Miracle?
You just need a brain after you got a big enough shield.
I dont underrestimate you or something else :P
Totally agree you but removing one fractal and adding one more pillar (i am talking about semi-upped version) fixed this.
3 turns at most lets you fractal first time at worst and till turn 3 you can not get killed. When you play fractal + hope,dr comes out and you get the time for playing second one and letting you win.
So,even in my version,even in 3rd turn,saves you from lose.
And for your question,not only Divine Glory and Miracle,Elidnis and many other gods. Much more DR because of no dragons fill this field.
Of course,the Standart one is a classic.
And,a brain can let you win against every FG. :P
Even than these,in upped version (dunno if you talked about it),like you said.
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