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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg475553#msg475553
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2012, 08:51:17 pm »
How do you think this would work (mostly) unupped?
Same way as regular RoL/hope? Things will be much more expensive, so you might need to cut out some cards for more pillars or something.

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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg475663#msg475663
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 01:36:29 am »
How do you think this would work (mostly) unupped?
Same way as regular RoL/hope? Things will be much more expensive, so you might need to cut out some cards for more pillars or something.
I don't think many people plating with 6 upped cards will have the 4 shards and 3 Electrocutors, but I would opt for replacing the Sancts for pilars as well as the missing Lobotomizers.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg475721#msg475721
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 05:21:33 am »
How do you think this would work (mostly) unupped?
Same way as regular RoL/hope? Things will be much more expensive, so you might need to cut out some cards for more pillars or something.
I don't think many people plating with 6 upped cards will have the 4 shards and 3 Electrocutors, but I would opt for replacing the Sancts for pilars as well as the missing Lobotomizers.
I have more than 6 upped, but not a terrible lot, and Ive two SoP and a lobo. I know it isnt horribly likely, but hey its something I can shoot for and this seems easier than RoL/Hope or the next step up.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483349#msg483349
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483354#msg483354
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 02:18:07 am »
This deck certainly looks much better than the original RoL/Hope.  How does it do against FGs compared to say Instosis or Poison Dials?

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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483359#msg483359
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2012, 02:24:32 am »
What happens if you use mind flayers instead of lobotomizers for lobotomies and the extra boost from SoP?
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483361#msg483361
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2012, 02:25:36 am »
What happens if you use mind flayers instead of lobotomizers for lobotomies and the extra boost from SoP?

It's hard to incorporate water quanta, since aether is stressed already.

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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483370#msg483370
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2012, 02:37:03 am »
with I had thought of this...plus I didn't realize that SoP stacked...so only one boost a turn...still, its better then the original with the space fighting for angels or dragons...and the wall not getting quite big enough...the up side is a 23 point wall can block out just about anything that lobo doesn't already take care of first.

and upped hope can block a 24 point wall. When facing a FG without a major source of healing, (which was already an issue for rol decks), it looks pretty nice.

There were a few games that I did end up killing the guy with normal RoLs so bumping them up for a few turns of not fighting doesn't hurt all that much. Rol/Hope is pretty much a stall deck to begin with, get the shards out early and even with only a handful of rol, you're still sitting pretty nice.


Congrads Chapus for updating a pretty darn good FG deck...the win rate probably isn't 70% as several gods are skips but the ones that aren't will probably go down a little faster...


As for someone's question...poison dials are still decent and so is instosis...just a few changes due to sundials and hourglass targeting hurting a bit more then it used to.

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someone asked about mindflayers....CC in general is more common with the FGs then permanent control, lobo, especially 3 of them, tends to last most of the fight if not the whole fight for most gods, even the ones that steal it. and boosted rays over light emitting ones aren't much tougher to kill but that could be 10+ points of damage a turn.

the real bonus would be if the critters were water instead of white. can't have everything though.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483372#msg483372
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2012, 02:38:36 am »
with I had thought of this...plus I didn't realize that SoP stacked...so only one boost a turn...still, its better then the original with the space fighting for angels or dragons...and the wall not getting quite big enough...the up side is a 23 point wall can block out just about anything that lobo doesn't already take care of first.

and upped hope can block a 24 point wall. When facing a FG without a major source of healing, (which was already an issue for rol decks), it looks pretty nice.

There were a few games that I did end up killing the guy with normal RoLs so bumping them up for a few turns of not fighting doesn't hurt all that much. Rol/Hope is pretty much a stall deck to begin with, get the shards out early and even with only a handful of rol, you're still sitting pretty nice.


Congrads Chapus for updating a pretty darn good FG deck...the win rate probably isn't 70% as several gods are skips but the ones that aren't will probably go down a little faster...


As for someone's question...poison dials are still decent and so is instosis...just a few changes due to sundials and hourglass targeting hurting a bit more then it used to.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483408#msg483408
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2012, 03:27:09 am »
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It's hard to incorporate water quanta, since aether is stressed already.

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When you get a mind flayer, play it, and fractal it if you have a good amount of water quanta hanging around. SoP gets a greater boost with mind flayers, so it isn't as critical to get it early, thus I put in 3 rather than 4. Test it before objecting, please.
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Re: New Old Times FG OTK [Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg483417#msg483417
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2012, 03:46:06 am »
^Played a few games with the above deck against FGs except unupped shard of Patience.  It's a pretty good idea.  However.  The problem I had with most games is that I couldn't get enough water quanta to fractal the mind flayers.  Yes there are Aether Pendulums, but I couldn't draw enough of them to get sufficient water quanta to fractal.

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Re: New Old Times FG OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37815.msg486511#msg486511
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2012, 11:58:25 am »
Isn't this deck very weak vs fgs with PC (AKA all nowadays)? or is the shard never targetted?

 

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