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Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311338#msg311338
« on: April 13, 2011, 11:08:38 pm »
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Originally the deck use :entropy Pend + :aether Mark, and it has Sundials instead of Phase shields, but there is too much :entropy left unused
so I changed to :aether Towers, running SN off the mark, which also allows me to play Phase Shields.
Charger is used because it comes with momentum.

The deck's weakness will obviously be Black Holes and PC. Other than that, you are pretty safe.

So tell me what do you think :)
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311340#msg311340
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 11:10:09 pm »
Why do you need so many SNs? You have a duo, not a rainbow.
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311341#msg311341
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 11:13:30 pm »
originally I run unupped Sundials. Now the SNs are solely for the Charger. I found that sometimes you need to play Charger early to win.
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311346#msg311346
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 11:15:34 pm »
I'd add a chaos power and another TU and replace the other supernovas with something else. The Supernovas just don't seem to fit at all
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311349#msg311349
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 11:17:17 pm »
Couldn't you change your mark to Gravity, and change all SN's into Entropy Pendulums?
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311350#msg311350
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 11:17:36 pm »
Quote from: Rutarete on April 13, 2011, 11:15:34 pm
I'd add a chaos power and another TU and replace the other supernovas with something else. The Supernovas just don't seem to fit at all
Er, there are already 6 TUs :D
Maybe +1 CP -1 SN is better. But the fact is I only have 5 :P
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311355#msg311355
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 11:19:49 pm »
i quite like Nepycross's suggestion. Either replace SNs, or spread CPs into other elements (ex. Blessings, adrenaline)
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311356#msg311356
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 11:20:06 pm »
Quote from: Vineroz on April 13, 2011, 11:17:36 pm
Quote from: Rutarete on April 13, 2011, 11:15:34 pm
I'd add a chaos power and another TU and replace the other supernovas with something else. The Supernovas just don't seem to fit at all
Er, there are already 6 TUs :D
Maybe +1 CP -1 SN is better. But the fact is I only have 5 :P
Gah! Miscount. But anyway, this is a good idea:
Quote from: Nepycros on April 13, 2011, 11:17:17 pm
Couldn't you change your mark to Gravity, and change all SN's into Entropy Pendulums?
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311357#msg311357
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 11:20:36 pm »
You can't hold enough cards in your hand to OTK, can you? I don't think I'm missing anything obvious, unless I've misunderstood the mening of OTK.
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311369#msg311369
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 11:34:25 pm »
Quote from: Blazing Moonwalker on April 13, 2011, 11:20:36 pm
You can't hold enough cards in your hand to OTK, can you? I don't think I'm missing anything obvious, unless I've misunderstood the mening of OTK.
hmm maybe you are right. But in the original deck where I used Sundials, I practically had 9 cards in hand for the killing turn. Charger + 4 CP + 4 TU can achieve OTK pretty easily, although some luck is needed for the card draw :P
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311389#msg311389
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 11:53:08 pm »
It can't OTK at all.
Charger+3 CP and 4 TUs
(7+5+5+5)x4=88.
Charger+4CP and 3TUs
(7+5+5+5+5)x3=81
Charger+2CP and 5TU=
(7+5+5)x5=85.
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Re: Lone Charger OTK https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24412.msg311446#msg311446
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 01:11:19 am »
Quote from: agentflare on April 13, 2011, 11:53:08 pm
It can't OTK at all.
Charger+3 CP and 4 TUs
(7+5+5+5)x4=88.
Charger+4CP and 3TUs
(7+5+5+5+5)x3=81
Charger+2CP and 5TU=
(7+5+5)x5=85.
Uhmm if you have 4 TU's you have 5 creatures total.
in the second case you multiply by 4 not 3, 6 and not 5.
It is hard but not impossible
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