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Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106571#msg106571
« on: July 02, 2010, 09:33:50 pm »
Sorry if the deck name wasn't fancy enough, suggestions help.

Edit: suggestions for names
1. Fantastic Fractaled Firemasters (frequently for fuel)
2. Taking one for the team
3. One death fuels an army

If you cremate a firemaster, you get 1 gravity quantum, which pays for the graviton firemaster that you are about to summon. You also get 1 aether quanta to help your fractals and 9 fire quanta, which let you gain 18 attack. Plus you have all the firemasters you can ever use. Plus they have 6 hp, which protects them from lightning bolt, other types of bolts, shockwave, one snipe, 5 turns of poison and all otys that haven't eaten anything from their own side as well as RoFs and thunderstorms.

Tips:
1. if the ai you are fighting has expected creature control, wait until they use it, then cremate that creature.)
2. if shields are expected heap all attack on a few creatures.
3. if creature control is expected spread attack evenly throughout.
4. graviton firemasters with full attack shouldn't be cremated, save some firemasters with 0 attack for this purpose.
5. remember that you can cremate a firemaster just so that you can get a final firemaster out of your hand before you fractal, or to save from deleting.

Any help with pilllar/creature amounts would be great.
I thought it was a fun deck to play.

Only bad part is the lack of firequanta sometimes. And that fact that the maximum damage output is 108 with 6 cremates out as well as no shields. Could upped fireflies make this deck better (cost 1 or 2 and make fire quanta paid for by cremates possibly?)

I wanted the deck to not be slowed down by three types of pillars, needs more than 6 cremates to run smoothly thought. :-(


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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106656#msg106656
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2010, 11:37:49 pm »
Wow tea this looks really good I have the firemasters and the aether pilalrs i should put this together. I now have a good reason to play them! although 6 fractals seems like a lot to me. I personally would use 2 phase shields just stall for cremates. But looks good keep up the good work sir!


P.S as for the name why not Fantastic Fractaled Firemasters!
I decided to "drop" back in

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106662#msg106662
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 11:50:23 pm »
P.S as for the name why not Fantastic Fractaled Firemasters!
Or.. Taking one for the team
Or.. One death fuels an army

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106685#msg106685
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 12:54:55 am »
I don't see why you guys are thinking up names for this when you could be thinking about something more useful for it. though I really liked those names XD

for example, you could add a brimstone eater. it would give you more quanta - plus, the firemasters start with 0 attack and won't help much, you could fractal a brimstone eater to get extra fuel and THEN fractal those firemasters.

just a suggestion, but it might work.

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106695#msg106695
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 01:22:52 am »
I don't see why you guys are thinking up names for this when you could be thinking about something more useful for it. though I really liked those names XD

for example, you could add a brimstone eater. it would give you more quanta - plus, the firemasters start with 0 attack and won't help much, you could fractal a brimstone eater to get extra fuel and THEN fractal those firemasters.

just a suggestion, but it might work.
The problem is, Brimstone Eaters cost :fire. Tea Is Good doesn't want the quanta to be spread too much as it slows down the deck.

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106713#msg106713
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 01:57:36 am »
hmm, fractal brimstone eaters would be hard to work into this deck, I could switch in fire mark, but that would mean a risk of no firemasters per turn.

I'll start testing Tomorrow.

P.S. Just make it in trainer! I never got how people could make these decks in game without testing (besides you Jmizzle)

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106772#msg106772
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 04:43:30 am »
Taking one for the team sounds the coolest. You don't actually need 6 firemasters and 6 fractals in a 30 card deck to ensure you draw them though. I would suggest the following:

-1 graviton firemaster, -1 fractal, +1  :aether tower, +1 phase shield

It seems a pretty good idea, only thing is it's probably a little slow. Would be nice if you could somehow fit another phase shield in there for a total of 2 so you actually have a decent chance to draw one and make up for time lost during the cremation phase. Appreciate the creativity though  :)

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106907#msg106907
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 01:08:54 pm »
I´m quite sorry to say so, but in this special case (growing creatures) prallel/twin universe makes much more sense to me.

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg106911#msg106911
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2010, 01:24:32 pm »
I´m quite sorry to say so, but in this special case (growing creatures) prallel/twin universe makes much more sense to me.
you know, you ARE right. but what if all of them get killed? xD fractal would save it. though you have a great point there

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg107020#msg107020
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2010, 06:03:43 pm »
I´m quite sorry to say so, but in this special case (growing creatures) prallel/twin universe makes much more sense to me.
you know, you ARE right. but what if all of them get killed? xD fractal would save it. though you have a great point there
You could also get stalled, loboed, hit by 2 Firestorms or overrushed by a cloned ephinedrined elite charger, hit out by a flying morning glory with miracle, get decked out, rewinded or speedpoisoned...
What does that have to do with the option that another card fits much better?


btw:
If you really wanna run it with fractal I´d suggest to play it that way:
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or (what i believe should work out much better) this way:
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mod: didn´t have another brimstone, so i added an additional gForce, but should be 4 to run smoothly.

still ain´t too fast though, but at least faster than i thought it would be...

However. THe result is if u wanna play it with fractal u may switch to mark of fire :D

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg107100#msg107100
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2010, 07:46:21 pm »
I like "One duel fuels an army" more.

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Re: Fractal Firemasters; Cremation For Fuel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9057.msg107467#msg107467
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2010, 05:51:15 am »
Union is right but id probably go

-2 fractals +2 phase shields.
I decided to "drop" back in

 

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