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Re: Flowing Reflection {Upped | Trio | PvP | Domin} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg484943#msg484943
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2012, 03:58:05 pm »
Beautiful Deck!
It looks very original to me and well tuned.

I'd personally add a Quintessence and remove probably a physalia.
Quint allows you to protect Purple nymph or Forest Spirit, both weak to early CC.

With the new Shards I'd remove the Lycanthrops with either SoSe or Mutation, so you can mutate the Singularities and still receive a Creature almost as strong as Lycans.
I personally miss some shields or PC though I don't know how to solve this.
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Re: Flowing Reflection {Upped | Trio | PvP | Domin} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg504617#msg504617
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2012, 01:14:52 pm »
Finally found this deck again! I tried to rebuild it and I'm totally in love with it :P

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I reduced your :water production and as for now I always have exactly enough to run it. Especially because SN supports :water.
With steals I have now included some PC and the turtle shield is a nice defense so you don't have to wait for Purple Nymph anymore.
I also added a single steam machine. In fact it's very useful since with the SN you can increase it's atk up to 26.
I chose Pandemonium for Mass CC because you have enough :entropy anyway.

Some variations I haven't tried so far but wanna do are:
Twin Universe, probably instead of Pandemonium. Main use to copy enemy creatures since :water aren't too strong. Also I'd be able to use it's ability.
Replace steals with SoFo and Poseidon with Discord. Allows more PC and some healing when SoFo turned to BH.
-1 Pandemonium +1 Nymph Tears (or +2 Nymph tears replacing a SN and Pandemonium)

What do you think of it? :D

Edit: After some tests I don't think SoFo are a good choice. Chances are too high they steal important ability quanta if you play them early.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2012, 04:22:48 pm by Gandora »
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Re: Flowing Reflection {Upped | Trio | PvP | Domin} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg504634#msg504634
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2012, 02:45:08 pm »
That looks awesome :)

Have you tested it against PvP2, or any of the arenas?

I might make a blend of the original and your additions and play with it. I'm still skeptical about having a steam machine in there, for instance, but it can definitely be useful if it's set up right,
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Re: Flowing Reflection {Upped | Trio | PvP | Domin} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg504665#msg504665
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2012, 04:22:28 pm »
That looks awesome :)

Have you tested it against PvP2, or any of the arenas?

I might make a blend of the original and your additions and play with it. I'm still skeptical about having a steam machine in there, for instance, but it can definitely be useful if it's set up right,

Thanks, and thank you for the inspiration  ;)

Sadly I was only able to test it against Lvl 3, 4 and FG's. (I'm using it in trainer... :( ) But I'd also like to know how it performs against human players/arena.

I'm currently running the following version. I'm not too sure about it since it contains overdrive, exactly because of Steam Machine but occasionally also as Lobotomizer or emergeny critter in late game. If you draw Steam without Overdrive you can still power it, and when you draw it it's attack will stop to decrease. Also I'm consider to use unupped spirits. This way one SN is enough and you could have one the first turn.

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Re: Flowing Reflection {Upped | Trio | PvP | Domin} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg538203#msg538203
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2012, 07:29:57 pm »
With the SN nerf, I no longer see it as viable to ai3 compared to other decks, but I would consider it a strong contender against Bronze. So after a long-thought and short-tested analysis, I've made a few (actually, a lot) of changes to the deck:
  • -2 Werewolves, +2 Steals
PC is a must. This is the simplest way to put it in.
  • -1 Tears, +1 Demon
Demon and nymph do essentially the same thing, dealing with high-attack creatures. Maybe one more swap is an option.
  • -1 Ulitharid, +1 Octopus
Similar concept, swapping CC cards. Octopus proved very useful in cases where a Uli would not have.
  • 1 Poseidon, +Octopus
Two Octopi is better than one, but Poseidon is still a huge threat when you draw it early.

Essentially this makes it a cross of original deck and Gandora's second variant. There's two more changes I'm considering:
  • -1 Pendulum +1 Steammie
Steammie proved useful in a decent amount of games, but I think a pendulum would have helped more in the other games. I felt underquanta'd a lot, but it probably had just as much to do with not being able to play multiple supernovas first turn.
  • -2 Spectre, +2 Spirit
Getting them on the first turn could be a better trade off for more base stats. I didn't test it, however.
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Re: Flowing Reflection {Upped | Quartet | Bronze | Domin} https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21448.msg538275#msg538275
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2012, 01:08:22 am »
:o this deck looks amazing! I hope I have enough upps to try it out.
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