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Find ALL the gems! (aka fatgems) [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115067#msg1115067
« on: December 13, 2013, 11:17:43 pm »
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I haven't done much testing at all but I like the concept quite a bit. Does anyone have any ideas on how to improve this for plat 500 HP EMs?

edit: Some notes from chat:
(1) Maybe shield? Maybe not since it won't get played until late?
(2) Needs more early earth quanta, but not really sure how. Maybe just adding stone towers?

Some notes from me:
Seems quite prone to bad draws, but when it works it's quite neat.

moreedit: Deckout isn't really seeming to be a problem so I think I'm gonna try to slim it down to 35 cards or maybe less, which should help a lot with the bad draws. Let's see what happens!

even more edit: I've decided I'm gonna abbreviate the name to fatgems.
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Re: Find ALL the gems! [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115088#msg1115088
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2013, 12:31:43 am »

We have to fix something, above all...the name! Fatgems is orrible!

Jokes apart, imho slim it's better...

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Re: Find ALL the gems! [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115091#msg1115091
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2013, 12:42:22 am »
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Slim version I'm currently messing with. I feel like it needs more life towers (and life cards in general) and also it's impossible to deck the opponent out with it. I'm only a couple games in with it though so who knows how it'll turn out.

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Re: Find ALL the gems! [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115115#msg1115115
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2013, 03:41:07 am »
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Notes:
Needs more tweaking, but it feels close.

Current problems is only getting up to 300 or so HP by the time you win.
Slow start (jamming initial hand)
Worse off against BH and Steal, staples in Plat.

Pluses, I have won against a couple mono-airs and mono-aethers big
And once rolling, it works real well.
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Re: Find ALL the gems! [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115116#msg1115116
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2013, 04:50:22 am »
Oh man, finally, love to see new work on 500HP EM decks, following
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Re: Find ALL the gems! [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115118#msg1115118
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2013, 05:40:13 am »
Would it be a good idea to add a shield?  I think a Permafrost Shield or a Titanium Shield might be a good addition (I am not sure if you will have enough  :water Quanta for a Permafrost Shield).
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Re: Find ALL the gems! [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115224#msg1115224
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2013, 09:23:20 pm »
I have to admit that 500 HP EM decks always used to be one of my deepest desires. My last attempt (with Blacksmith's help and valuable advice) of building such a deck for arena about a month ago (an earth/light duo) only managed to get the desired result vs a Bronze deck which didn't pay well at all...  :( When I first saw your deck CG I really liked it, so I decided to give it a try, although I wasn't pretty sure about the result (we all know that Plat is crawling with decks which use huge amounts of PC and CC). The first two attempts were disappointing as the first deck was a Pandabow and the second had too many explosions and steals. The third deck that I found though was exactly what I needed in this occasion: a farm!  ;D. It only played Time Pillars and I saw later at the spins at least 3 different shards (though I only got a ...Time Pillar  :'(). Anyway I ended up with 470 HP since my opponent decked out and I only needed 1 more GS. The reward was quite satisfying as you can see below, but I strongly believe that without a strong shield (like  Diamond) this very nice deck wouldn't stand a chance against Plat's monsters. I'll try to do some testing as well for the next days, and I'll post the stats here as soon as I'll finish it.

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Re: Find ALL the gems! (aka fatgems) [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115780#msg1115780
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 02:31:18 am »
I really like the idea behind this deck.  Unfortunately, it has not been working for me in the arena.

The biggest issue with this deck is that it is too large to consistently get Gemfinders within the first few turns.  I would recommend  finding some way to reduce the number of cards to around 35.

I am going to try a version of this where I replace the Life element for Light.  I think Miracles would be very good in this deck.

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Re: Find ALL the gems! [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115781#msg1115781
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 02:39:53 am »
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Notes:
Needs more tweaking, but it feels close.

Current problems is only getting up to 300 or so HP by the time you win.
Slow start (jamming initial hand)
Worse off against BH and Steal, staples in Plat.

Pluses, I have won against a couple mono-airs and mono-aethers big
And once rolling, it works real well.

How do you go about successfully using the SoSacs?  It seems to me that they would just eat all of your  :earth when you cast them.  Do you chain them once you have a Gemfinder army?
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Re: Find ALL the gems! (aka fatgems) [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115782#msg1115782
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 02:43:56 am »
Ha, it's hardly 'working' in any consistent way... 
But yea, mid to late army building, run the chain is how I got it working.

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Re: Find ALL the gems! (aka fatgems) [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115786#msg1115786
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 03:07:02 am »
I just got a fairly easy 500 EM with the Earth/Water/Life deck I posted above.  How do I post a screenshot of the duel?

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Re: Find ALL the gems! (aka fatgems) [Plat][500HP EM] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52856.msg1115788#msg1115788
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2013, 03:20:06 am »
I just got a fairly easy 500 EM with the Earth/Water/Life deck I posted above.  How do I post a screenshot of the duel?


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