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Rays of Patience and Hope [FG Grinder] [Light/Water/Aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49292.msg1071275#msg1071275
« on: May 18, 2013, 12:13:15 am »
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Saw this deck on Kongregate chat. The man who created it, of course being a Kongregate-Elements player, claimed it was better than PDials (which I didn't believe). However, I just thought I'd throw it out there if any of you wanna give it a try and do some testing.
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Re: Rays of Patience and Hope [FG Grinder] [Light/Water/Aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49292.msg1071276#msg1071276
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2013, 12:37:02 am »
I've been running something similar

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Purifies are nice against poison gods, Sundials sometimes screw up the mulligan but sometimes help against PC heavy False gods and rushy gods. I find 3 Shards is more than sufficient.
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Re: Rays of Patience and Hope [FG Grinder] [Light/Water/Aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49292.msg1071278#msg1071278
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2013, 12:39:58 am »
Yes, you'd think that 5 SoPs would be a little much in a 30(-ish) card deck like this one.
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Re: Rays of Patience and Hope [FG Grinder] [Light/Water/Aether] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49292.msg1072149#msg1072149
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 04:53:05 am »
There are a lot of decks that could be considered better than pdials in different ways.

There are decks with higher overall win rates, decks that are faster in TTW, decks that beat more FGs, and decks considered easier to play with etc...  However, pdials, is considered the most efficient.  That is decks that when total time spent in the game will yield the highest amount of electrum. 

For example the highest WR I know of is The Brave Malignant Balls That Could (kind of plugging myself) but it's got a natural 64% WR, 80% Skip WR against FGs, with a 12 TTW average; but it's tricky to play.  You can't play it blindly and you will lose a lot at first if you don't know what the FGs have.  It's learning curve kills its efficiency to around 3rd place behind pdials and splat according to most.

The SoP/Hope deck is generally referenced to as the New Old Times variants, being the classic hope with SoP.  Not the best, but not the worst, it's a great starting deck that you slowly build up the upgraded cards, but can FG grind mostly unupped in the beginning.


 

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