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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg451832#msg451832
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2012, 01:35:14 pm »
Why not making it just with Damselflies, adrens and UG as if it was a mono, and add just 2 immolations?
Did you mean something like this?

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LOL please correct it xD
doesn't work?? xD
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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg451841#msg451841
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 02:05:46 pm »
Why not making it just with Damselflies, adrens and UG as if it was a mono, and add just 2 immolations?
Did you mean something like this?

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LOL please correct it xD
doesn't work?? xD
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LOL, it worked with Chapuz but not with Gandora xD
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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg451855#msg451855
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 02:35:22 pm »
Why not making it just with Damselflies, adrens and UG as if it was a mono, and add just 2 immolations?
Did you mean something like this?

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LOL please correct it xD
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LOL, it worked with Chapuz but not with Gandora xD
that's unfair xD
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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg451956#msg451956
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 06:55:57 pm »
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Well this deck looks lovely first of all. The only thing I worry about this one are those dreaded permanents. While I'm not suggesting that all decks need permanent control, I'd recommend that this one include at least 2 Explosions. Why? Mainly because of shields. The archenemy of a Damselfly + Adrenaline is a shield, and while a Jade Shield or Mirror Shield may mean a rage quit for this deck, the ability to stunt the enemy's strategy by removing some shields, some weapons or some hourglasses may mean victory.

I'd simply remove 1 UG and 1 Shockwave in order to fit the Explosions, it was already said that you probably wouldn't be needing all of the Unstable Gases due to the wickedly vicious 8 attack Damselflies, and if the enemy is to whip out a Jade Shield, there's the possibility of slowing them down by exploding their Emerald Towers. Against reflective shields UGs and Shockwaves (as direct spell damage) are virtually useless, so you may as well remove them to make room for the PC.

As for the other recommendations to include Cremations, I personally prefer your original style more. Why? Well because I myself have tried decks with Immolation | Cremation, and if they don't come, well... you're in a pickle. This deck's method is a little more reliable, if a little strategy telling, but if the reflective shields come out both styles are doomed anyways.

With this new version you could have a Dominating Damsel-Gas Rush, which in itself is a comedic deck title, and I think you may just have made it a tad bit better, though there really wasn't -much- room for improvement.

Good work Gandora, keep it up!!

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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg452159#msg452159
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2012, 02:46:51 am »
***TRIALS RESPONSE***

Well this deck looks lovely first of all. The only thing I worry about this one are those dreaded permanents. While I'm not suggesting that all decks need permanent control, I'd recommend that this one include at least 2 Explosions. Why? Mainly because of shields. The archenemy of a Damselfly + Adrenaline is a shield, and while a Jade Shield or Mirror Shield may mean a rage quit for this deck, the ability to stunt the enemy's strategy by removing some shields, some weapons or some hourglasses may mean victory.

I'd simply remove 1 UG and 1 Shockwave in order to fit the Explosions, it was already said that you probably wouldn't be needing all of the Unstable Gases due to the wickedly vicious 8 attack Damselflies, and if the enemy is to whip out a Jade Shield, there's the possibility of slowing them down by exploding their Emerald Towers. Against reflective shields UGs and Shockwaves (as direct spell damage) are virtually useless, so you may as well remove them to make room for the PC.

As for the other recommendations to include Cremations, I personally prefer your original style more. Why? Well because I myself have tried decks with Immolation | Cremation, and if they don't come, well... you're in a pickle. This deck's method is a little more reliable, if a little strategy telling, but if the reflective shields come out both styles are doomed anyways.

With this new version you could have a Dominating Damsel-Gas Rush, which in itself is a comedic deck title, and I think you may just have made it a tad bit better, though there really wasn't -much- room for improvement.

Good work Gandora, keep it up!!

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The quality of this trial responses is incredible! This is the fourth I'm reading today and everytime I was simply astonished  ;)
So first of all: thanks a lot for making this amazing response!  :)

I can completely follow your chain of thought. I mentioned in my OP that explosions may fit in somewhere but hearing your opinion on the shields makes them much more important to me.
They actually seem now like an irreplaceable need. So you're right: they certainly are an improvement!
I wasn't too happy with the immolations either. They are simply replaceable with the mark giving more room for other cards.

I really like your version as well as some others posted before :)
I'd probably exchange one card (I think best is mitosis) either for Improved Fog/Elite Firefly Queen/Eagles Eye.

Thank you a lot for making all this and for the compliment :D I truly think this trials response are amazing and I think you really did help me. :)
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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg487862#msg487862
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2012, 05:13:14 pm »
Version for 1.30 has been added, check it out ;)
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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg487884#msg487884
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2012, 05:46:50 pm »
I have tried it and had many 5 ttw games, it's really good!
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Re: Explode this Damsels!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg487925#msg487925
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2012, 07:09:34 pm »
fast fast FAST! :D dat mark of  :fire sure fits like a glove in there...

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Re: Explode this Damsels!! [1.30 is here] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg488122#msg488122
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2012, 12:43:26 am »
realy nice deck idea, but there could be a big delay if the new shard takes fire quantum...

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Re: Explode this Damsels!! [1.30 is here] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg488125#msg488125
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2012, 12:48:48 am »
realy nice deck idea, but there could be a big delay if the new shard takes fire quantum...

dont really believe its much of a problem in average you will only want to blow up 2 UG at most wich means you will only need 2  :fire quanta in average

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Re: Explode this Damsels!! [1.30 is here] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg488127#msg488127
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2012, 12:50:41 am »
Not if you blow up the UGs before SoBe.

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Re: Explode this Damsels!! [1.30 is here] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35741.msg488591#msg488591
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2012, 10:32:20 pm »
Met the absolute counter of this deck = Titanium Shield + Protect Artifact, twice in a row in Ai4... Totally shuts down the damselflies and the 150 hp prevents UG from turning the tide.

 

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