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Re: Deja vu Overrun https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35296.msg449430#msg449430
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 01:38:39 am »
the light quanta generation looks kinda weird

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Re: Deja vu Overrun https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35296.msg449512#msg449512
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2012, 10:18:15 am »
the light quanta generation looks kinda weird
Creatures will generate light quanta ;)
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Re: Deja vu Overrun https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35296.msg449730#msg449730
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2012, 11:52:27 pm »
the light quanta generation looks kinda weird
Creatures will generate light quanta ;)
i see that but it will still be slow to get out all the light quanta you need

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Re: Deja vu Overrun https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35296.msg452382#msg452382
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 08:04:54 pm »
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Very unique idea! Unfortunately, this is a really difficult combo to pull off in comparison to RoL/Hope. However, you never know when there will be an event/tourney that could use a deck like this.

With using the combo Luciferin + Deja vu + Hope, I think fractal is your best supplemental card. This deck would be very difficult to pull off without fractal, so I would recommend keeping it in your deck. However, silences don't really combo very well with anything in your deck. Silences are nice when you have them, but they only last 1 turn, which doesn't do you a heck of a lot. You are better off using that deck space to make your main combo more efficient.

With that said, I recommend 4 Luci, 4 fractal, and 4 Hope to give yourself the best chance of getting 1 of each within the first few turns of the game.

Instead of morning glory, I would use electrocutor instead because that will better serve you against growers and momentum.

Also as recommended in above posts, it would be wise to switch GotP for a light dragon. 2 reasons why. 1) you will have a ton of light quanta to use, 2) light dragons are very durable compared to GotPs, and 3) certain shields are going to block DVs but not dragons.

I also recommend switching the mark and pills/pends because with aether towers you should be able to fractal 1 turn earlier, which could make or break the game. Balancing the quanta is rather difficult because if you convert more pends to towers, RNG can troll with not getting any pends in your starting hand, which makes fractal useless.

Lastly, I removed the miracles. Realistically, you will not need them with the lucis and hope, plus it interferes with fractal dragons.

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Re: Deja vu Overrun https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35296.msg452432#msg452432
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2012, 10:16:56 pm »
As said earlier in the tread I did change the GotP for a light dragon and it worked quite well.
Adding more fractal has already come up but I think +1 is enough. Keep in mind that deja vu also does multiply by it self.

I dont agree changing pendlums and mark. Dejavus needs to multiply, and there for are most important to get out on the field first.
Im greatfull for your respons but I get the feeling that you havent even played the deck. If you took time to write a long respons like this I feel you could have at least tried the deck.

The Glory is there because it cant be destroyed. If you only add 1 Lobo it will get stolen or destroyed since you dont have anything else but pendlums to target.
Miracles work great vs poison. I wouldnt remove all of them. Maybe 1 less but I feel it is so strong that its worth having 2.


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Re: Deja vu Overrun https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35296.msg452535#msg452535
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 03:57:48 am »
I assure you, I did play with your deck as posted and I played with the suggestions I recently posted.

My main issue when playing your deck was not getting fractal early enough to spam enough DVs and ultimately get hope blocking everything. In my experience, 4 fractals is pretty standard in fractal-based decks. Anything less becomes severely prone to RNG failure.

Using aether pends allows you to fractal at least 1 turn earlier than if you used time pends. Also, you have way too much time quanta leftover when using time pends. While you are able to play DVs turn 1 with time pends, this is almost a useless strategy as they are susceptible to CC and you won't use luci until you fractal anyways. So the priority is to fractal ASAP, not play DVs ASAP.

As for lobo vs. morninglory, I think it depends on what you are using the deck for. PvP will likely have plenty of PC, so morning glory might be preferred. However, of you at playing AIs which don't consistently have PC, I would more likely use lobo.

And lastly regarding miracle, I originally had it in my deck, but I found that I almost never used it because hope locked my opponent down or Lucis gave me enough health to win. I am not opposed to adding it to your deck (sub it for a DV), but I just found the deck to run smoother without it.

I hope this clears up some of the rationale behind my suggestions.

 

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