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Speed Volcano [PVP2] [Earth] [Fire] [Time] [Trio] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42841.msg534275#msg534275
« on: August 17, 2012, 07:43:33 pm »
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SoFo

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I had the idea a while back to make something like this. I haven't found anything exactly like it, if someone could point me to a deck that is very similar, I'd really appreciate it.
Anyways, I've either had some really good luck, or this deck rocks in PVP2. I'm currently 8-0 with an average TTW of 5-6, most of the time 5. Any suggestions would be great.

I'm starting a PVP2 test for both decks. 50 games each, TTW and W/L will be recorded.

Testing so far:

SoFo: Win/TTW: 5 7 12  9 5 10  7 6   7 8EM 9EM 6 6EM 6
          Loss:                            L     L

Average TTW so far: 7.357.
W/L: 14/2
EMs: 3


Explosion: Win/TTW: 5 6   5   6 5 5      6 5   5 9
                Loss:             L   L         L L      L

Average TTW so far: 5.7
W/L: 10/5
EMs: 0
« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 12:23:35 am by willng3 »
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Re: Speed Volcano [PVP2] [Earth] [Fire] [Time] [Trio] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42841.msg534282#msg534282
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 08:02:27 pm »
I don't want to be the one who says it but.... A possible change could be SoFo instead of Explosions
My only problem with that would be it taking the time quanta for graboids.
Looks good, I like the addition of RT

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Re: Speed Volcano [PVP2] [Earth] [Fire] [Time] [Trio] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42841.msg534293#msg534293
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 08:37:54 pm »
I don't want to be the one who says it but.... A possible change could be SoFo instead of Explosions
My only problem with that would be it taking the time quanta for graboids.
Looks good, I like the addition of RT

Same ... one SoFo = 3 explosions .. and you can abuse with RT ;)
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Re: Speed Volcano [PVP2] [Earth] [Fire] [Time] [Trio] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42841.msg534567#msg534567
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 04:00:19 pm »
Damn I wanted to try to make something effective without using SoFo, but I guess its probably a better addition anyways. Only difference is Explosion is unstoppable and less predictable. I can hold it back until it's most effective. The average TTW is so low that I almost feel SoFo might be too slow. The deck is almost always quanta starved and has just enough quantum production to function. Swapping Explosion for SoFo, as you said, might take away from time and earth quantum too often.

Edit: Yea SoFo works really nice with this deck. As Dhanzig said, abuse with RT as well :P pretty funny after using it twice I just send it back to my deck. Thanks for the help guys, updated OP.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2012, 04:19:00 pm by Bloom »
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Re: Speed Volcano [PVP2] [Earth] [Fire] [Time] [Trio] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42841.msg534573#msg534573
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 04:21:16 pm »
Damn I wanted to try to make something effective without using SoFo, but I guess its probably a better addition anyways. Only difference is Explosion is unstoppable and less predictable. I can hold it back until it's most effective. The average TTW is so low that I almost feel SoFo might be too slow. The deck is almost always quanta starved and has just enough quantum production to function. Swapping Explosion for SoFo, as you said, might take away from time and earth quantum too often.

If you are really starved, consistently, Explosions are the way to go. And if games are that short, Explosion again. I am thinking if faced with a mono aether with shields, you've probably generated a good amount of damage already and with at least one explosion you should be fine.  This may be one deck in a while that does better without SoFo.

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Re: Speed Volcano [PVP2] [Earth] [Fire] [Time] [Trio] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42841.msg534591#msg534591
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 05:07:16 pm »
Damn I wanted to try to make something effective without using SoFo, but I guess its probably a better addition anyways. Only difference is Explosion is unstoppable and less predictable. I can hold it back until it's most effective. The average TTW is so low that I almost feel SoFo might be too slow. The deck is almost always quanta starved and has just enough quantum production to function. Swapping Explosion for SoFo, as you said, might take away from time and earth quantum too often.

If you are really starved, consistently, Explosions are the way to go. And if games are that short, Explosion again. I am thinking if faced with a mono aether with shields, you've probably generated a good amount of damage already and with at least one explosion you should be fine.  This may be one deck in a while that does better without SoFo.

I feel like they're quite swappable. They both work well and have advantages in their own respects. I came up against a Mono-Dark with an early Vamp Dagger and Dusk Mantle. I luckily drew SoFo early as well. Obviously, in this situation, SoFo is more advantageous.

Here was a nice win I had. SS after turn 4. He had already played one Dime Shield.

« Last Edit: August 19, 2012, 04:56:46 pm by Bloom »
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