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Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1094700#msg1094700
« on: August 26, 2013, 06:01:41 pm »
Ok... Wow... This deck works.

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I was playing around with free creatures and having a fun time, and then i stumbled onto this combination and it blew my mind. It's actually really really good.

One MASSIVE weakness. Mass CC. One thunderstorm and it's game over.

The general idea behind the deck is that you will have 12 light producing creatures on the field giving you an immaterial +12 damage blocking shield, 6 of your light producing creatures will be untargettable and you'll be dealing quite significant shield avoiding damage yourself.

The deck essentially plays itself, but if your enemy has good targettable CC then you should hold onto your fireflies until you have several SoFree's on the field.

Please try this deck out and let me know what you think. One thing on my mind right now is adding protect artifact to make you invulnerable to PC, and you could even use gem gnomefinders to generate the quanta sticking to the "free quanta production" vibe.

I've been practicing with this deck VS FG (Quite a good record. I feel I will start recording data with this deck as I'm kinda in love with it)

And 1 thing I noticed about the AI is that it will target Firefly > Damsel > RoL if you have less than 4 SoFree... Including if you have 3 SoFree. So sometimes it's best to only play 3 SoFree to protect your RoL and keep your hope shield up, up until you've managed to play more Fireflies and want to protect those and deal more damage instead.
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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1094794#msg1094794
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2013, 04:47:56 am »
Nice deck. It is very good if the opponent doesn't have some of a few cards that utterly destroy it. Steal can mess it up pretty badly. Devourers are bad because they eat your  :fire. Explosion + CC is probably bad as well. Poison + SoSac is bad. But if you can get out the 4 SoFr + Hope and your opponent can't deal with that it is a beautiful thing!

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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1095044#msg1095044
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 07:24:22 pm »
VERY nice deck. This is what I've been waiting for! :P The only (im)possible way it could be better is turn one Shards, but that's not possible. Still, very, very good. :)

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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1099801#msg1099801
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2013, 07:59:03 pm »
I think this deck would work a lot better if you focused more on a stall than a rush.  Shard of Bravery is much better in decks that require speed and/or require a specific combo to work.  Hope is much better for longer games and/or surviving against FGs/Plat.  I would suggest changing the Shards of Bravery to Shards of Patience (see below).

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This deck should still be pretty quick due to the drawing power of the sundials.  Additionally, the Shard of Patience will provide some protection from mass removal.
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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1099867#msg1099867
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 07:29:12 am »
I think this deck would work a lot better if you focused more on a stall than a rush.  Shard of Bravery is much better in decks that require speed and/or require a specific combo to work.  Hope is much better for longer games and/or surviving against FGs/Plat.  I would suggest changing the Shards of Bravery to Shards of Patience (see below).

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This deck should still be pretty quick due to the drawing power of the sundials.  Additionally, the Shard of Patience will provide some protection from mass removal.

This is a good idea. It still fails pretty heavily to steal, and it is also a little more unreliable. The hope isn't quite as strong in this deck without the fireflies. Still, it has potential, and definitely more answers to CC. All things considered, I would say neither of these decks is well rounded enough to be strong, but this one is closer. The original is definitely more fun though, in my opinion  :P

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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1099882#msg1099882
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 12:41:16 pm »
Both decks shown on this thread are trios. I tried to get something more reliable reducing them to a duo:
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I thought it was pretty good till I ran into pandemonium.

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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1099884#msg1099884
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 01:10:06 pm »
RoF, pandemonium, plague... well you can't do nothing about that :P

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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1099945#msg1099945
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 08:33:03 pm »
Both decks shown on this thread are trios. I tried to get something more reliable reducing them to a duo:
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I thought it was pretty good till I ran into pandemonium.
This is a trio  :P
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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1100032#msg1100032
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2013, 12:17:40 pm »
This is a trio  :P
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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1100980#msg1100980
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2013, 06:18:17 pm »
This version might have some success in terms of speed.  However, I do not think it will have the survivability to take on Gold/Plat.

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I still think the best Plat Farming decks leave out the Damselflies and focus on the ROL's

Something like this:

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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1100982#msg1100982
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2013, 06:30:46 pm »
Disregard what I said earlier about this deck being unable to handle Plat.  I am currently 4-0 in Platinum with this deck.  I will continue testing.

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Update: Now 7-5.  Lost to an early Pandemonium, a Silence disrupting my Sundial chain, some weird Time/Water deck involving Nymph Tears and Dessication, a Fire/Light stall deck with CC and 200 HP and a GOTP Nightmare deck. 

I have learned that you have to think a lot more about when to sacrifice your SOP when using this deck.  Sometimes it is better to go for a 2 hit K-O than to wait.  Also, this deck will never give you an EM.  All games are relatively close but are decided quickly.
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Re: Be brave, have hope, set yourself free. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=50964.msg1101008#msg1101008
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 10:15:16 pm »
I just tried the above version in plat. I went 4-6. Gravity destroys this deck when it gets any form of early quanta/permanent denial or early Otyughs.

 

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