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Grown Up Otyughs [AI3][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35802.msg450490#msg450490
« on: January 19, 2012, 01:16:04 pm »
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Made purely for fun. :)

It plays like looks:
- play Discord if you can
- play Otyugh and CP it (distribute CPs among additional Otyughs if needed)
- nom-nom everything you can
- play BH to deny quanta and try to EM
- play BE for PC

I haven't made extensive tests but it seems to have a solid winrate against AI3.


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Re: Grown Up Otyughs [AI3][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35802.msg450491#msg450491
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 01:21:42 pm »
it actually doesnt seem that bad
if you can get an early discord, you pretty much won

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Re: Grown Up Otyughs [AI3][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35802.msg450681#msg450681
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 03:36:55 am »
3 BE seems to be a lot. I doubt you'll need that many. One or two would suffice. Not sure about the animate weapons, Usually, you only need one discord. The others are just there to increase the chances of drawing discord.

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Re: Grown Up Otyughs [AI3][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35802.msg450682#msg450682
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 03:39:08 am »
more discords means more scramble wich means more quanta to suck up with BH

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Re: Grown Up Otyughs [AI3][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35802.msg450685#msg450685
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 03:54:23 am »
More discords = effectively 1 scramble, as you're re scrambling the same quanta.

This does look fun- have you tried with Half-bloods?
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Re: Grown Up Otyughs [AI3][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35802.msg450759#msg450759
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 01:44:26 pm »
3 BE seems to be a lot. I doubt you'll need that many.
Of course. It just the latest version of the deck I experimented with. I couldn't draw BE when I needed it in a couple of games.

Try -BE +pend

Not sure about the animate weapons, Usually, you only need one discord. The others are just there to increase the chances of drawing discord.
In this deck Discords are also secondary (in rare cases primary) damage dealers.

More discords = effectively 1 scramble, as you're re scrambling the same quanta.
It's not the same. One scramble is -10 random quanta +10 random quanta iirc.
With some luck it can break mono or duo quanta source slightly better.

This does look fun- have you tried with Half-bloods?
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Re: Grown Up Otyughs [AI3][Fun] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35802.msg454634#msg454634
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 03:52:11 am »
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Nice deck, definitely pretty solid. In this archetype, limited denial (Unlike for example Devourers, Discord and BH only work for so long) I tend to want more offense to be able to capitalize while my opponent is shut down. Chaos Power does a lot of work, but sometimes in the end you just need some solid 7/5 bodies. Which, fortunately, Gravity can provide.

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Sadly, more offense means more card slots, and more card slots means a bigger deck. To compensate, in this version I removed all the BEs (And doing so I was able to remove 2 Pends, you don't need half as much :entropy now) 3 Otys, and an Animate to stick in some Chargers and Towers to fuel them. The lack of BEs is partially made up by the Chargers, as usually of the time the most problematic permanents are shields anyway. While cutting a couple otys does reduce both the control and the theme of the deck, 6 is a tad overkill, and with 3 we are reliably getting one in any case, which is usually more than enough to dominate the board.

I kept one Animate in, since like you I feel that Animating a Discord is very powerful, much more so than leaving extra copies in your hand as dead cards. 6 damage and additional scramble do a lot of work.
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