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Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449637#msg449637
« on: January 16, 2012, 07:34:17 pm »
And once again I was messing around in the trainer with Golems  :D
I just tried casually to mix some unusual elements, so  :earth and  :death met each other :P
That  :gravity and  :earth work well together is known, so I added that element also :D

I tried 15 games so far against AI3 and won them all. As often in trios, the balance is difficult,
but I think this isn't bad. Bad draws aren't too rare though....
Well, enough talk, here it is :D

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Strategy:
If possible, play gravity Pull when you got a Golem and Soul Catcher out. This way you get to  :death quanta to play your spiders.
I suggest to hold soul catchers in your hand and to wait until the opponent plays a key creature or a strong one.
That way you don't risk that your Soul catcher gets destroyed and that you didn't waste your GP.
Also, depending on the opponent, use gravity pull when you're sure that you can play
your spider the same turn. Devourer and BH quickly drain your  :death quanta.

Possible Changes (so far  ;) ):
a) -1 Golem, -1 Protect Artifact; + 1 Soul Catcher, + Gravity Shield
b) + Gravity Shield (-1 Protect Artifact or -1 Steel Golem?)
c) Replace Flesh Spider with 4-6 Deadly Poisons

And as always I appreciate every suggestion/criticism or test results :D
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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449641#msg449641
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 07:47:17 pm »
This deck is fu**ing crazy :) I love it.
My advice here : 4 soul catcher seems not enough actually, moreover they are really needed so you can't play without them so I think you need to add 1/2, but dunno what to take out for that..

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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449642#msg449642
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 07:48:35 pm »
never seen anything like it :)

explain the death part of you deck in the deck strategy

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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449645#msg449645
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 08:02:59 pm »
@ ralouf1
Thank you really much :D Means a lot to me to hear that from you  ;)
You're right, there are bad draws where i miss SC.
If you want to add one, my first choices would be: Protect Artifact, Steel Golem, Pulverizer.
Because there are draws where I'm tight on :earth quanta.

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Glad to hear that :D
In fact I wanted to build something never seen.  ;)
I hope I was successful  :))

I added a short strategy guide! Thanks for the tip!  :)
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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449651#msg449651
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 08:23:31 pm »
thanks for putting that up, i still have a feeling this deck is crying for a shield and you can use PA on this deck :D

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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449652#msg449652
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 08:30:05 pm »
i still have a feeling this deck is crying for a shield
Well... the only possible shields are skull buckler and diamond shield  :)
I guess it'd be best to replace pulverizer for a diamond shield then?

you can use PA on this deck :D
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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449653#msg449653
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 08:35:02 pm »
i still have a feeling this deck is crying for a shield
Well... the only possible shields are skull buckler and diamond shield  :)
I guess it'd be best to replace pulverizer for a diamond shield then?

you can use PA on this deck :D
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thanks!   :D
pulvy is awesome on the deck, it should stay, but yeah diamond shield would be the best option unless maybe you put gravity shield and use gravity pull only against creatures with 5 or less hp, making them easy to take down with golems, because the rest would be blocked by the shield

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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449654#msg449654
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 08:38:54 pm »
Gravy shield seems a pretty good idea. Diamon is also good but have a high cost.. Also I think you should keep having pulvy in this deck because lot of AI3 have very annoying shield, this pulvy will help for sure !

I'm glad to help you :) I'll suggest -1 golem -1 PA +1 SC +1 gravy shield
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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449658#msg449658
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 08:46:58 pm »
i really like the gemfinders in the deck because i keep thinking they are usefull to bait the AI CC out of the golems, giving an additional way to produce death quanta early on, without losing much of the earth quanta, besides it makes your deck less vulnerable to earthquake :D

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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449668#msg449668
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 09:04:44 pm »
Regarding the  :gravity shield. I like the idea of stopping high hp creatures and use GF on the weaker ones   :D
It may be possible to make a 31 card deck, and also use ralouf's suggestion of -1 golem + 1 SC?
(i'd still like being able to save at least one permanent with PA...)

i really like the gemfinders in the deck because i keep thinking they are usefull to bait the AI CC out of the golems, giving an additional way to produce death quanta early on, without losing much of the earth quanta, besides it makes your deck less vulnerable to earthquake :D
prefect summary of my reasons to put them in there ;)
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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449670#msg449670
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 09:09:02 pm »
Yes gemfinder is a good card, also making a deck 31 cards is rarely bad for the deck, specially vs AI3.

However I understand you'd like to keep one PA but I have one issue : with only one you're likely to draw it when it's useless and not have it when you need it..
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Re: Backed Up Golem's! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35725.msg449672#msg449672
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 09:14:25 pm »
Regarding the  :gravity shield. I like the idea of stopping high hp creatures and use GF on the weaker ones   :D
It may be possible to make a 31 card deck, and also use ralouf's suggestion of -1 golem + 1 SC?
(i'd still like being able to save at least one permanent with PA...)

i really like the gemfinders in the deck because i keep thinking they are usefull to bait the AI CC out of the golems, giving an additional way to produce death quanta early on, without losing much of the earth quanta, besides it makes your deck less vulnerable to earthquake :D
prefect summary of my reasons to put them in there ;)
thanks! apparently we think the same way lol

i was thinking of other cards besides recluse that could enter but dont see any other than dragon but its too expensive anyways
diamond shield can be a better option when facing swarm tactics due to limited CC of the deck and most of the creatures would pass the gravity shield

plate armor could be used alongside gravity shield as a way to stop the enemy creatures or as a way to protetc your own...

+rep for making a nice and original deck  :P

 

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