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Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1040293#msg1040293
« on: February 09, 2013, 04:43:48 am »
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So this is the deck I've been using. It's not my best but it's pretty solid and good for grinding some level 3's and 4's, and maybe some pvp. Obviously the cremation is just an upgrade and can be switched with immolation.

Strategy: Use the photons as a sacrifice for the immolation generating some fire to summon the Lava Golems, the mark of earth generates earth so you can continually strengthen the golems. Pretty self explanatory but it works.

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Re: Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1040295#msg1040295
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 04:47:41 am »
Needs moar focus.
I think that you can afford to get rid of the darkness part by several card switches (black dragon => phoenix, steal => deflag, cloak => moar deflag).

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Re: Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1040309#msg1040309
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2013, 06:37:52 am »
not so solid as you have mentioned. A duo that i think makes you draw all the pillars than the much needed creatures and cards. could have trim that down to just 30. 6 photons , 6 immo, 6 lava, 2 crimson, 2 deflag, 6 pillars, earth mark. it'll be duo. Not sure if you know this or not....your deck is a quart. Not so efficient for un-upped (this puts into consideration that you r not using rainbow and rares)
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Re: Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1040316#msg1040316
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2013, 07:12:47 am »
Well geeze, looks like i got a lot to learn lol! Thanks so much for the tips

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Re: Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1040317#msg1040317
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2013, 07:18:59 am »
Well geeze, looks like i got a lot to learn lol! Thanks so much for the tips

no worries, you will soon know how to balance the cards. a simple deck strategy works better than many put together (most of the time)
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Re: Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1040390#msg1040390
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2013, 02:28:40 pm »
This deck is just unfocused:
- only 2 Devourers in 40 cards (even in 30) is too few grab them in the first 2-3 turns. They are practically useless after that, as their main purpose is making your opponent start slower
- Only 1 Cloak makes nothing. If your opponent is gonna kill your creatures, that 3 turns in the 40 cards is nothing.
- Taking out ALL the  :darkness stuff, you will have the Immolations, Photons and Golems faster, what means faster damage and games.
- That forever alone Stone Pillar is also funny, in a small deck you can rely on your mark + Immolations and maybe get some Gnome Riders instead of Photons to make them generate  :earth being also immo fodders.

If you want a pure  :fire Immorush, this is more or less what I would suggest you

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Although, as Immolation gives you a lot of other quanta, you can use it to get tons of cheap and usefull off-element stuff, like this build:

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Re: Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1051975#msg1051975
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 04:34:52 am »
apfeiffs, this deck has a great name, and is a great duo. However, 30 cards is better for this type of deck. I would take out a few pillars and a few dragons.

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Re: Black Fire https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46691.msg1052492#msg1052492
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 04:33:42 am »
black dragons seem a bit too ambitious for dmg..
i would suggest a healthy amount of cards
30 is the minimum and the optimum amount of cards for a deck, however not all decks need to heed this rule

I haven't ever considered a fire/dark duo deck, but I think it might work together well.
I think adding dark for utility mostly, like more cloaks and steals. get rid of photons and immo your devourers instead.
Instead of having golems and dragons, why not use fire spirits? cloak will keep them shielded while they grow, and fire spirits can grow to extreme damages when they're invisible from cloak.

In short, use darkness for cloaks, and take out the creatures and add in fire spirits. maybe keep golems? I don't know; this probably needs more testing. devourers as immo fodders. and you don't have to follow the 30 card rule; if you feel like you need to add more cards for more :darkness and probably cloaks, do that.

 

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