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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430857#msg430857
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2011, 02:30:07 am »
^^ ok thankyou! and srry btw

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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430859#msg430859
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2011, 02:31:00 am »
Know what, im bored, im gonna drum up some stats for this...
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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430860#msg430860
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2011, 02:32:50 am »
Know what, im bored, im gonna drum up some stats for this...
thank you for ur help... that is if ur doin it too help. XD

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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430866#msg430866
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 02:42:28 am »
lol hopefully it will help if the stats turn up good :) i like the deck concept, we will see what stats come up :)
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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430868#msg430868
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2011, 02:45:47 am »
lol hopefully it will help if the stats turn up good :) i like the deck concept, we will see what stats come up :)
thanks, its a great help! i'll probly do sum of my own.

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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430881#msg430881
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 03:38:22 am »
Ok... I was going to do 50 games of stats but i think i will do that with a later version because this one still needs alot of work, I still think its a great idea and i love the premice but as it is it is not a viable deck:

11 games:
4 Wins
7 Losses

TTW:
8 once (double PUed a 16/6 steam machine instead of combo)
9 twice
12 once

Problems:
The MAX damage the deck can cause on its own is: 60 + 90 = 150. and that is with all cards drawn.
This means that:
- Any healing after you have to start your combos because of hand space ruins you
- with no drawing power, you have to be lucky on draws, or go VERY deep into your deck to get the needed kill
- To win from your combo:
-- 1 VD 1 HL (10) 1 TB (15) 6 TU (30, 45, 60, 75, 90, 105) (9 cards)
-- 2 VD 2 HL (20) 1 TB (25) 5 TU (40, 55, 70, 85, 100) (9 cards)
-- 1 VD 1 HL (10) 1 TB (15) 5 TU (30, 45, 60, 75, 90) 2 TB (100) (10 cards)
-- 2 VD 2 HL (20) 2 TB (30) 5 TU (45, 60, 75, 90, 105) (11 cards)
-- 2 VD 2 HL (20) 2 TB (30) 4 TU (45, 60, 75, 90) 2 TB (100) (12 cards)
-- 3 VD 3 HL (30) 3 TB (45) 4 TU (60, 75, 90, 105) (13 cards)
-- 4 VD 4 HL (40) 4 TB (60) 3 TU (75, 90, 105) (15 cards)
There might be more options, but after 12 card combos for 100 hp it gets a bit silly lol

You have alot of excess aether quanta. This might come in useful later...

For combos like these, you either need healing or protection, big drawing power, or both or all three.

TTW is just too slow for a non EM AI3.

Notes on gameplay: TU can be used on anything that will eventually do more than 15 damage. Thunderbolt can be used directly on enemy HP, or sometimes as CC. excess holy light can be used as healing.

Now... i think there is still potential to this deck, because i want there to be, and i like the idea.

The way i see it you have 2 options, or do both:

1: use that excess aether quanta and add some phase shields, vulnerable to PC, but might buy you time to draw those cards (cons, further clutter your hand if they have healing)

2: if you add in some ECLIPSE then you can do 20 damage to a voodoo doll, the PUs get 20 damage each everything becomes easier.

Hope that was helpful and not too demoralising, as i think you have potential as a deck builder with ideas like this.
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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430885#msg430885
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2011, 03:45:52 am »
hm... intresting my winrate was 5-0 even in AI3.. from what i tested, were u usin trainer or was this ingame?

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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430888#msg430888
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2011, 03:49:00 am »
in game... i thought in the origional post you said you had 10-0 in AI3? (which i find amazing if true)

EDIT: after some digging, found this:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24096.0
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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430898#msg430898
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2011, 04:23:52 am »
so, this deck deals [(doll hp)-(light/flash + bolt damage)] = 15?

then 15 * x | x= number of TU's you have?

which brings you to a maximum of (for 1 doll, all TU's):
[15(from first doll) + 15*x(x=number of TU)] = 15*7 = 105

AT BEST CONDITIONS:
105(1st doll) + 15 (3 thunderbolts) + ~50 (holy light dolls, i don't know if it fully damages if a doll gets killed) = around 165 damage
slip in a weapon, and you might be able to kill FGs with this

against AI3, awesome, actually (i have all except upped holy lights :( :()

Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430899#msg430899
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2011, 04:31:49 am »
so, this deck deals [(doll hp)-(light/flash + bolt damage)] = 15?

then 15 * x | x= number of TU's you have?

which brings you to a maximum of (for 1 doll, all TU's):
[15(from first doll) + 15*x(x=number of TU)] = 15*7 = 105

AT BEST CONDITIONS:
105(1st doll) + 15 (3 thunderbolts) + ~50 (holy light dolls, i don't know if it fully damages if a doll gets killed) = around 165 damage
slip in a weapon, and you might be able to kill FGs with this

against AI3, awesome, actually (i have all except upped holy lights :( :()

doll does NO damage if it's destroyed with the damage, so you can only play one holy flash on a doll without HP buffs

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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430900#msg430900
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2011, 04:34:07 am »
lol yeah 5/10 sumtin like that i tried it 2 days ago... i have a slight case of short term memory loss.

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Re: a semi-original voodoo deck?! what is this world coming to?! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34136.msg430901#msg430901
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2011, 04:36:56 am »
Looks fun! I know what I'll be upgrading next!
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