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Re: 150 OTK [unupped][rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40971.msg507534#msg507534
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 07:12:44 am »
Is just playing the Voodoo doll not an option?

I mean, it looks kinda resilient with 16 HP.

Though I don't know if AI would target it with CC or not.
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Re: 150 OTK [unupped][rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40971.msg507545#msg507545
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2012, 07:40:45 am »
Is just playing the Voodoo doll not an option?

I mean, it looks kinda resilient with 16 HP.

Though I don't know if AI would target it with CC or not.

AI will derp and target it with CC sometimes. If it does that, you're dead.
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Re: 150 OTK [unupped][rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40971.msg507697#msg507697
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2012, 07:50:55 pm »
Is just playing the Voodoo doll not an option?
I mean, it looks kinda resilient with 16 HP.
Though I don't know if AI would target it with CC or not.
AI will derp and target it with CC sometimes. If it does that, you're dead.
AI doesn't target dolls unless they have a skill. GP counts.
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Re: 150 OTK [unupped][rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40971.msg507700#msg507700
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2012, 08:13:46 pm »
Is just playing the Voodoo doll not an option?
I mean, it looks kinda resilient with 16 HP.
Though I don't know if AI would target it with CC or not.
AI will derp and target it with CC sometimes. If it does that, you're dead.
AI doesn't target dolls unless they have a skill. GP counts.
False. At 0 atk with no skill, the AI should have a 5% small chance of using normal CC (assuming no better targets), assuming it has not been changed in the latest versions. This chance is per turn, and also per copy of CC. Thus, the AI is quite likely to get around to it if you leave your doll out for a few turns and have not pulled any of his CC. Picture from the trainer:


EDIT: Do note that many forms of CC can also be used directly on the player, so once you take enough (~40) damage you will be a higher priority target.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 09:50:05 pm by Tirear »

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Re: 150 OTK [unupped][rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40971.msg512285#msg512285
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 02:14:29 am »
This deck has to be ineffective, parellel universe and dim shield cost a lot towards aether quant and if you're stringing shields, coming up with the quant to play the actual combo is going to be short more often then not. 

This deck reminds me of the epic 200 ko deck, cept a bit smaller.

That deck was pretty effective if I remember correctly.  In fact it may be my favorite FG farmer ever.

Not to take away from this deck, but you can play the 200 ko as a 150 ko unupgraded by adding +1blessing and -1PU.

This deck needs some pendulums to generate the needed aether quanta.  -4 pillars +2 time pens and +2 light pens.....

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Re: 150 OTK [unupped][rareless] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40971.msg513632#msg513632
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2012, 11:43:28 pm »
This deck has to be ineffective, parellel universe and dim shield cost a lot towards aether quant and if you're stringing shields, coming up with the quant to play the actual combo is going to be short more often then not. 

Empirical evidence suggests otherwise.

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Not to take away from this deck, but you can play the 200 ko as a 150 ko unupgraded by adding +1blessing and -1PU.
Actually, the PU is necessary. Unupgraded rage potion and light dragon (2 PUs, blessing) results in 24*3*2=144, while replacing the blessing with a PU results in 21*4*2=168.

However, slim version requires 12 more aether quanta for 2 more shields, a bit of extra light quanta, and draws a lot faster (and so requires even more quanta generation); in the end, the extra pillars take up room (e.g. for sundials) and result in more dependency on shields, and thus more vulnerability to PC (reduces 3 turns of stalling when used on dimshield compared to 1 turn of stalling when used on sundial).

 

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