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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301962#msg1301962
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2020, 01:01:08 pm »
Then what's the point of allowing bows? You cannot play effective bows... (without sacrificing half a dozen of duo decks).
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301963#msg1301963
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2020, 01:13:23 pm »
Of course you can? There are tons and tons of different options for playing bows, and don't forget the fact that each series is only between 5 and 9 games long - it's not as limiting as you think it is.
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301964#msg1301964
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2020, 01:24:50 pm »
EFFECTIVE is the key. I won't go into details, but think about all the good bow cards, nearly all of them has a nice duo possibility.
I'm merely venting my frustration that since I entered Elements' competitive PvP bows always get screwed in the Trials.
Either ian banning Nova for me or the rules are way too restrictive. At the same time I look back at earlier Trials, those were Nova heaven.

ps: you can still use more than 1 bows, right? They just don't get the rainbow treatment talking about used elements, if I understand correctly.
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301965#msg1301965
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2020, 01:54:05 pm »
ps: you can still use more than 1 bows, right? They just don't get the rainbow treatment talking about used elements, if I understand correctly.

In addition to this, you can for ONE game during the series play a deck using a "Rainbow" element.
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301966#msg1301966
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2020, 02:09:06 pm »
ps: you can still use more than 1 bows, right? They just don't get the rainbow treatment talking about used elements, if I understand correctly.

In addition to this, you can for ONE game during the series play a deck using a "Rainbow" element.

This pretty much tells me that multiple bows are allowed, but only one of them gets the "rainbow" element.
I wanted to be sure.
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301967#msg1301967
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2020, 02:30:15 pm »
EFFECTIVE is the key. I won't go into details, but think about all the good bow cards, nearly all of them has a nice duo possibility.
I'm merely venting my frustration that since I entered Elements' competitive PvP bows always get screwed in the Trials.
Either ian banning Nova for me or the rules are way too restrictive. At the same time I look back at earlier Trials, those were Nova heaven.
Circumventing the whole strategical element about which cards are accessible and which are not just to make even more optimized rainbows is not going to happen. It's supposed to be somewhat restrictive, to encourage both creative deckbuilding and reading your opponent. Please spare yourself from ranting about the rules, it's pretty disrespectful to the TrO's who try their best to make this event fun for everyone. After all, the rainbow rule was added solely because you suggested it after last Trials finals. But at least please understand we cannot change the rules at this stage, where bans have been made with this very rule in mind.

ps: you can still use more than 1 bows, right? They just don't get the rainbow treatment talking about used elements, if I understand correctly.
Yep, you can use as many elements you desire in every deck as long as your slots make it possible, but you can only pick "Rainbow" as an element once.
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301970#msg1301970
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2020, 03:11:47 pm »
Didn't mean any disrespect, I even mentioned that I'm merely venting my frustration.
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1301975#msg1301975
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2020, 05:40:35 pm »
DoubleCapitals will STANDIN :light finals, replacing Mobian. He will use Mobian's 7 upgrades due to the timing of this swap.

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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1302005#msg1302005
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2020, 07:45:02 pm »
How will your opponent know what sort of cards have you used up? Because elements/bow is quite simple, you see what your opponent plays,
but how about cards? For example your opponent has some tasty Relic in his deck, but won't use it, and you can only guess if had any in the deck.
It would be great to know the used cards after games.
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Oh, yes, that slipped our mind. You would have to tell your opponents which cards were included in your deck after each game, just like in WC.
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Re: 14th Trials - Phase 4: The Final Battle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67934.msg1302035#msg1302035
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2020, 11:42:03 am »
Entropy final is scheduled for next Saturday, exact time will be announced later (probably around 14 UTC).

FINAL HAS STARTED... hopefully. :)
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