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Elements the Game => Trials => Events and Competitions => Trial of Light => Topic started by: xdude on January 22, 2011, 03:21:28 pm
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Phase 3 - Community Vote
Phase 3 has ended
It's time to vote for your favorite Master candidate.
Every community member has one vote. You can change your vote at any time as long as there is still time on the clock.
Vote based on who you think would make the best Master of that element. Do not vote based on who is the best player or who you know personally. Try to pick someone who you think would help the community the most.
Feel free to ask the candidates difficult questions to help you make your decision.
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Voted! (Not on me)
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I will ask something here, first.
General Question: Light is made of photons. Upgrading Photons, means upgrading Light?
Xdude: You're the most feared master around. Which challenger would be harder to face, for you?
Ryan: You won the battle phase. You think you can repeat yourself against xdude?
Dm: Do you still hope to be in the final battle?
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Okay, my first post was a fail. Honestly, I know everybody waits some kind of awesome, long and huge discurse to say why I love light, and about how I'm active and stuff. I'll have none of that unless requested, 'cause not only I fail at writing those, they're mostly the same thing in essence, even if a few are different from the others.(No pun intended.)
General Question : Wha? I didn't understand. Can you please shine some Light (Pun intended) into that question?
Dm: Do you still hope to be in the final battle?
Honestly? No. I'm between "No" and "Maybe". The difference created between My and Ryan's points are too big to cover. I need at least 40% of all votes (Or something like that) to enter final battle. Ryan was a good PVP'er and even though he beat everybody with 1 deck, he still beat them all. Xdude is already popular and will probably get most of the votes. So honestly, it depends if people vote on me or in ryan. Or in Xdude. Or in other people.
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I haven't been here nearly as long as many of you have, and as such I am still very much getting to know many of you.
xdude: You have been the master of light for a very long time now, why do you feel that your reign should continue? In other words, what do you feel that you can possibly contribute that you haven't already?
Challengers: I certainly understand the thirst for power, but xdude has been a phenomenal master. He knows :light inside and out, what it can do and what it cannot. What can you do that he cannot/has not?
To all: I look for maturity in whichever candidate that I want as master, something I have felt has been sorely lacking by some of those in the trials. This is more of a general statement than a question, just something I thought you all should know.
Yup, I'm rambling now, so I'm gonna stop here. The very best of luck to all of you. I have a feeling you're gonna need it if you're gonna bring down xdude. ;D
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Thirst for Power? Nay, it's thirst to help Light in War and to help Light become much moar loved by the citizens.
And once again, honestly, I think that xdude IS a great master. Taking him down would require not only insane (Probably 1337 or over 9000 or even both combined) skills, but also a lil bit of lucky RNG by your side. While Xdude knows :light inside out, I doubt that all counters, counter counters, powers and synergies with :light have been discovered. Being the crazy deck-builder I am (And by crazy I don't mean good, I just mean that I try to focus and to make it work, with a synergy or not), I feel that I could make up some good new decks for :light. I might be wrong. Who knows.
I rambled on too much. What can I do that he has not? I don't know. He tried all he could to help :light in war and he probably made a lot of decks with :light. I'd also try to help :light the best I can and try to explore all that :light has to offer with itself and with other elements. If I succeed or not, only time will tell.
Long thing short : Xdude is one awesome master. He did a lot of things with and for :light. All I could do is try to explore other parts of :light and hope to be as good as him.
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*ehem* Allow me...
Why to vote for me:
- I have been here ever since the Forums were created. I can be trusted to stay here for good - I'm not going anywhere soon. I'm also a part of the Council and the Trial Overseer (who can't make a poll :-X )
- I've been Light's only Master. I've been a Master ever since I had 50 posts. Back then, I didn't like Light much, but nobody else applied. I then proceeded to get the job and the 3rd place in the Masters' Tourney.
- I don't like to brag, but... I think nobody here with common sense believes Light is weak anymore, and I might've played a part in it. Along the time, I've gotten 2nd and 3rd in Masters' tourney, and got Light on 4th in War (we were on 2nd, but... see Death - War 3 Drama)
- I've been challenged before. And I always was up to the challenge. First Trials, I won 5-1, with my only lost game being due to wanting to rush. 2nd Trials, I won 5-3, even though my opponent had more than double my upped cards. So, let's face it, I'm not losing my title anytime soon. Vote for me and I get more upps, and thus more awesome, innovative deck choices (for you to copy)
- [00:18:17] Fenix2011: master of light owns time
[00:24:25] ddevans96z: xdude has 1337 skills.
[22:30:41] Wardead: Xdude = unfair
[22:31:08] Wardead: If all 11 other masters played xdude in one game with all their decks combined, it would still be unfair
[22:31:31] Wardead: Xdude = that awesome
[20:19:28] Ryan666 [»] xdude: i wish i could give you a hug.. that was so nice.
[20:40:10] Kuroaitou: I imagine xdude is fun working with
[20:41:53] Wizardcat: xdude's easy to get along with, so there's a good feeling of team on our side.
you belong to a very special group of highly talented and awesome people
[21:23:46] Scaredgirl: you don't get challengers xdude because you cannot be beat
[18:59:07] Dragoon1140: Yea right, xdude has some mad respect from me.
[13:37:46] 918273645: How nice, xdude.
[23:10:57] Ryan666 [»] xdude: Your so nice btw.
[13:40:39] 918273645: You are thi kindest person I know by far.
[21:27:30] nilsieboy: my favorite masters are xdude, blonde and essence
[21:27:54] nilsieboy: xdude and essence are awesome
[23:20:04] Ryan666 [»] xdude: thank you so much,
[23:20:15] Ryan666 [»] xdude: your name should be xawesome
So, now for RR's devious awesome questions.
General Question: Light is made of photons. Upgrading Photons, means upgrading Light?
Hmm, Physics question? Nope. Elements question. Elements answer.
Upgrading Photons to Rays of Lights is one of the most important upgrades in mono Light. Rol/Hope, major EQ-deck beaters and others can be easily built with these. Upgrading Photons is a great step forward, if you're planning to go Light. So do it. It really is upgrading Light.
Xdude: You're the most feared master around. Which challenger would be harder to face, for you?
Well, johann seemed like the most inventive deckbuilder. But honestly, it's gonna be harder for me to face Ryan. I know basically nothing about him. BTW, harder =! hard 8)
Aaand a ninja-answer for the ninja-post!
xdude: You have been the master of light for a very long time now, why do you feel that your reign should continue? In other words, what do you feel that you can possibly contribute that you haven't already?
I've made mistakes, mainly in the War. I have a different strategy for next War, which will hopefully bring Light the trophy. Also, my reign should continue because, quite frankly, I don't think my challengers could do what I can/could. They have great potential, but seem a little... fresh, if you ask me. Of course, this is all to be seen in the final battle.
While Xdude knows :light inside out, I doubt that all counters, counter counters, powers and synergies with :light have been discovered.
Believe me, I DO know Light inside out. I have analyzed each and every card, trying to make it work with Light. Little can surprise me now.
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That's why I said "I doubt". I might be wrong. I do know that you literally know :light inside out.
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*ehem*
You had me at "ehem". Until someone stomps Xdude to the ground and rips his Master title away i feel that there really is no better Master of their particular element around. As Masters go i don't think anyone is as dedicated and consistent.
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*ehem*
You had me at "ehem". Until someone stomps Xdude to the ground and rips his Master title away i feel that there really is no better Master of their particular element around. As Masters go i don't think anyone is as dedicated and consistent.
That... means very much to me from somebody like you.
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Simple questions, feel free to write as much or as little as you want. I'll read everything before I decide.
What does Light symbolise for you?
What will you do for this element as a Master? What is your vision?
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What types of cards does Light need in game to finish covering the Element Light?
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What does Light symbolise for you?
To me, Light is the element of quality. You pay big, and you get big. (http://elementswiki.co.cc/articles/light-the-element-of-quality/)
What will you do for this element as a Master? What is your vision?
Preeetty much what I've already done, just that better. Do as good as possible in War, kick people who dislike Light in the rear,make the ultimate Light EM deck...
What types of cards does Light need in game to finish covering the Element Light?
Some Control. Light is the only element without any all-around CC. But IMO, more needed would be some weak PC (such as stunning, or something). This would give Light some more firepower, while fitting into the I-don't-care-what-you-do theme.
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Simple questions, feel free to write as much or as little as you want. I'll read everything before I decide.
What does Light symbolise for you?
What will you do for this element as a Master? What is your vision?
Something kind of pure. You help yourself and others, and others help you in return.
My vision? I kind of answered it in the second post without knowing, but here we go again - My vision is to expand :light and :light's synergies, powers, etc; and try to lead :light into a good ending in war. Also make :light more known to all players of elements.
What types of cards does Light need in game to finish covering the Element Light?
WHERE'S MAH CC! Light does needs some kind of CC. I don't think that PC is very needed - With blessings we can go past any shield you throw at us. Oh, It's Fire Shield? Angels are win.
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Simple questions, feel free to write as much or as little as you want. I'll read everything before I decide.
What does Light symbolise for you?
What will you do for this element as a Master? What is your vision?
Something kind of pure. You help yourself and others, and others help you in return.
My vision? I kind of answered it in the second post without knowing, but here we go again - My vision is to expand :light and :light's synergies, powers, etc; and try to lead :light into a good ending in war. Also make :light more known to all players of elements.
What types of cards does Light need in game to finish covering the Element Light?
WHERE'S MAH CC! Light does needs some kind of CC. I don't think that PC is very needed - With blessings we can go past any shield you throw at us. Oh, It's Fire Shield? Angels are win.
Phase Shield, Gravity Shield and to an extent Bonewall are great vs Light. PC would help against the better 2 (better vs Light, of course)
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Dim. Shield is a great shield against all elements as it blocks everything. Gravity isn't exactly a popular choice since gravity itself is not a popular element. While I do agree some PC would help Light, some CC would be better. And we're aiming mono-light here. Don't forget we can rage our angels and Dragons to bypass those shields.
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Many people see Light as "The Element that is only Good for ROL/Hope." How could you prove them wrong?
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Dim. Shield is a great shield against all elements as it blocks everything. Gravity isn't exactly a popular choice since gravity itself is not a popular element. While I do agree some PC would help Light, some CC would be better. And we're aiming mono-light here. Don't forget we can rage our angels and Dragons to bypass those shields.
Ugh...
Also, Light needs no CC. It can rush and heal more than any other element.
Many people see Light as "The Element that is only Good for ROL/Hope." How could you prove them wrong?
*points towards Wars and Masters' Tourneys* What people are you talking about?
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Would you ever use Holy Light (Against :darkness/ :death is excluded.)?
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Many people see Light as "The Element that is only Good for ROL/Hope." How could you prove them wrong?
We kick a lot of rushes to the face with the classic Bless Pegasus Rush (3x Drags, 6x Pegasus, 6x Bless, 15x Light Pillar, mark of air). We can also stall with Miracle. And let's not forget Light is a very versatile element - It can make Duo's with all elements. Master's Tournament is also a great example..
Oh damn, Xdude ninja'd me. Let me quote him too.
Ugh...
Also, Light needs no CC. It can rush and heal more than any other element.
I tend to disagree, sir! Rush more then any other element? Heal more? I'd say we're a balance, I think that life can heal faster, but Light can heal more. On the other hand, light CAN rush, but it's not exactly the fastest. And let's count that Miracle costs 12-15 to use, which is a lot, and most fast fast rushes (Rainbow, etc.) will have already kicked you by there unless you got some Ah-mah-zzing quanta production.
And why the red and yellow?
And Ninja'd again! Thanks, Raving. Another quote.
Would you ever use Holy Light (Against :darkness/ :death is excluded.)?
Yes. Holy Light is very useful to heal yourself quick if you know you're against a stall. A duo with darkness itself and voodoo's with Holy Light would be quite incredible.
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I will ask something here, first.
General Question: Light is made of photons. Upgrading Photons, means upgrading Light?
Xdude: You're the most feared master around. Which challenger would be harder to face, for you?
Ryan: You won the battle phase. You think you can repeat yourself against xdude?
Dm: Do you still hope to be in the final battle?
Well, raving I think that I could use the same deck against xdude yes but I know that it will take a lot more thought process when it comes to xdude if I make it to the final battle. I hope that i earn your vote.
What types of cards does Light need in game to finish covering the Element Light?
Over-all?
It needs more control, more CC, more PC, not so much quantum control.
It maybe needs cards that can "blind" the opponent. So they can't play permanents for like three turns.
The only CC it can target is darkness ards so it needs so work there.
I haven't been here nearly as long as many of you have, and as such I am still very much getting to know many of you.
xdude: You have been the master of light for a very long time now, why do you feel that your reign should continue? In other words, what do you feel that you can possibly contribute that you haven't already?
Challengers: I certainly understand the thirst for power, but xdude has been a phenomenal master. He knows :light inside and out, what it can do and what it cannot. What can you do that he cannot/has not?
To all: I look for maturity in whichever candidate that I want as master, something I have felt has been sorely lacking by some of those in the trials. This is more of a general statement than a question, just something I thought you all should know.
Yup, I'm rambling now, so I'm gonna stop here. The very best of luck to all of you. I have a feeling you're gonna need it if you're gonna bring down xdude. ;D
I think that personally I have a fresher look on things. I mean yeah xdude has been here for a while but he's grown with the cards, has a biased opinion on the cards, I could offer a fresher vantage point. I can bring light to be the most well liked element and I can bring light to first place in war #3.
Simple questions, feel free to write as much or as little as you want. I'll read everything before I decide.
What does Light symbolise for you?
What will you do for this element as a Master? What is your vision?
Light symbolizes, power, integrity, patience. All things you need when playing light cards.
Personally, light means freedom, a fresh start, a new day.
As Light Master I would see myself taking Light to it's maximum potential, taking it to war #3. Making Light the most broad range element. I hope to show everyone how great of a master I can be by sticking to it and doing the hardwork it requires.
Many people see Light as "The Element that is only Good for ROL/Hope." How could you prove them wrong?
Well obviously when you look at war and see all the different styles of decks we used, also how grand xdude did in his masters battles, kinda shows it there.
Would you ever use Holy Light (Against :darkness/ :death is excluded.)?
Ehhh personally I just don't think that Holy Light is a strong enough card to put it into my deck, only place i can see me using it is to possibly get an EM after using a miracle. So I guess I could say yes, in the future.
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What will your vote do for me?
It will show me that I have believers, people that support me in the upcoming final battle. It will also let me have an arsenal of choices when it comes to the final battle, and every percentage of vote i get, I will work my ass off to make sure I can use my maximum amount of upped cards
Why do I deserve your vote?
Because I can take :light to a whole new level. I had like a 5/1 record in War #2 when I played on Team :light and also in phase 2 I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building. I am a hard worker and I stick with things so you don't have to worry about me dropping out as light master or disappearing. I'll always be here. :P
Global Moderator Comment Stupid Colour Usage removed
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Would you ever use Holy Light (Against :darkness/ :death is excluded.)?
Actually, I'm trying this deck for EM's, is average so far, but it's more fun to me than any deck on the Forums... for certain reasons :P
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DM: the colored part is where it stopped making sense.
Because I can take :light to a whole new level. I had like a 5/1 record in War #2 when I played on Team :light and also in phase 2 I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building.
Not meaning to offend you or something, but I find that highly offending to Team Light. You built 0 decks for us. The wins you got were with preset decks and sometimes even me whispering you what to do (though I'm sure you don't really need that so much anymore). And the PvP phase... :-X
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I think it made perfect sense. Gravity Shield stops light. Mono-light. If duo, we can rage Dragons and Angels to bypass Grav. Shield.
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Because I can take :light to a whole new level. I had like a 5/1 record in War #2 when I played on Team :light and also in phase 2 I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building.
Not meaning to offend you or something, but I find that highly offending to Team Light. You built 0 decks for us. The wins you got were with preset decks and sometimes even me whispering you what to do (though I'm sure you don't really need that so much anymore). And the PvP phase... :-X
Look xdude, I did well in war, I played those decks and won with them, you even told me I was a great rookie and you were glad to have me on your team, stop saying that I didn't do anything, just because you don't want me to get votes, it's not cool.
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Peace, yo. Hippie Sign. This is :light trials, not :fire (flaming, not anything to do with the thread or trials itself) trials.
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Because I can take :light to a whole new level. I had like a 5/1 record in War #2 when I played on Team :light and also in phase 2 I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building.
Not meaning to offend you or something, but I find that highly offending to Team Light. You built 0 decks for us. The wins you got were with preset decks and sometimes even me whispering you what to do (though I'm sure you don't really need that so much anymore). And the PvP phase... :-X
Look xdude, I did well in war, I played those decks and won with them, you even told me I was a great rookie and you were glad to have me on your team, stop saying that I didn't do anything, just because you don't want me to get votes, it's not cool.
It's the truth. Honestly, I couldn't care less about the amount of votes you get. I was just pointing this fact out to the community. You were a good rookie, but you were a rookie. Not a Lieutenant.
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ANYWAY question time:
@xdude: Do you believe that you can lead this element better than anyone else? If not then why?
@challengers: Why do you believe you can lead light better than someone who has been master for 3 terms?
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ANYWAY question time:
@xdude: Do you believe that you can lead this element better than anyone else?
@challengers: Why do you believe you can lead light better than someone who has been master for 3 terms?
Oooh, yes or no question! Yes. Because so far nobody was even close to proving me otherwise.
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Because I can take :light to a whole new level. I had like a 5/1 record in War #2 when I played on Team :light and also in phase 2 I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building.
Not meaning to offend you or something, but I find that highly offending to Team Light. You built 0 decks for us. The wins you got were with preset decks and sometimes even me whispering you what to do (though I'm sure you don't really need that so much anymore). And the PvP phase... :-X
Look xdude, I did well in war, I played those decks and won with them, you even told me I was a great rookie and you were glad to have me on your team, stop saying that I didn't do anything, just because you don't want me to get votes, it's not cool.
Yes a rookie who did better than everyone else on team light, I may not have made the decks but really I helped and everyone's decks were made for them, why didn't they do better than me? That's what i thought.
Thanks, but don't call me a liar, that's low.
It's the truth. Honestly, I couldn't care less about the amount of votes you get. I was just pointing this fact out to the community. You were a good rookie, but you were a rookie. Not a Lieutenant.
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ANYWAY question time:
@xdude: Do you believe that you can lead this element better than anyone else? If not then why?
@challengers: Why do you believe you can lead light better than someone who has been master for 3 terms?
As I said earlier, I offer a fresher view on being a light master and I think that light needs a new master :PPP
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For those that like the drama, here is a chat that went on in Chat.
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[06:36:26 PM] xdude: ryan speech is a lie.
[06:36:43 PM] Thatnewguy: What is so bad about the speech?
[06:36:44 PM] 9270984: he says he has a great war record. what he didnt say, how little he did to help team light
[06:37:04 PM] xdude: [20:36:43] Thatnewguy: What is so bad about the speech?[20:36:26] xdude: ryan speech is a lie.
[06:37:09 PM] Thatnewguy: People overlook the facts that make them look bad.
[06:37:25 PM] xdude: that's plain lie.
[06:37:30 PM] xdude: his victories show NOTHING about his skill.
[06:37:57 PM] Thatnewguy: I believe the only reason he won phase 2 is because of 1 sole card. Gravity shield.
[06:38:01 PM] xdude: not an overlooked fact
[06:38:08 PM] xdude: phase 2 was fail of everybody else.
[06:38:09 PM] 9270984: what tng said is true
[06:38:19 PM] xdude: and some bad luck from johann
[06:38:45 PM] aznkid66: i think it was the others' faults for NOT failing against a gravity shield >.>
[06:38:55 PM] aznkid66: heck, just whip up a raging angels + deflag
[06:38:59 PM] Thatnewguy: I blame Rng >.<
[06:39:05 PM] aznkid66: didn't he use the same deck over and over and over?
[06:39:12 PM] Thatnewguy: Basically.
[06:39:13 PM] xdude: yes, he did.
[06:39:14 PM] Dragoon1140: Yes, azn.
[06:39:17 PM] aznkid66: for NOT winning*
[06:39:21 PM] xdude: well, johann tried to counter it
[06:39:26 PM] xdude: he got awful luck
[06:39:29 PM] aznkid66: so its the competition's fault for not making a counter
[06:39:37 PM] Dragoon1140: That's probably because Ryan only has those cards upgraded.
[06:39:40 PM] xdude: jipp... he was just awful in all the fights
[06:39:42 PM] Thatnewguy: DM also tried a deflag deck.
[06:39:49 PM] xdude: and he changed decks with Dm
[06:39:52 PM] morningstar: BL match anyone? I have time for 1 now
[06:40:03 PM] aznkid66: photon is a light card..and it's great for immo..
[06:40:10 PM] Dragoon1140: To be fair to Ryan, though, I would have done the same thing. Why change decks if your opponent cannot counter it?
[06:40:20 PM] Thatnewguy: I used skellies for immolation.
[06:40:21 PM] 9270984: im surprised no one ran vader-sader with steals
[06:40:30 PM] 9270984: or i didnt see anybody who did
[06:40:55 PM] xdude: You would've, Dragoon. But you wouldnt've bragged about your dewckbuilding skills after that.
[06:40:57 PM] Theonlyrealbeef: Dragoon, to me, that only makes me look sad towards other challengers as well
[06:41:38 PM] xdude: I think the only way he could use Phase 2 would be to make all the other guys look bad.
[06:42:07 PM] Ryan666: I did well in phase 2 xdude soooo just stop :P
[06:42:26 PM] xdude: I never said you didn't :P
[06:42:36 PM] xdude: I just said you shouldn't've bragged about it.
[06:42:51 PM] aznkid66: because, ryan, you didn't do well
[06:42:57 PM] aznkid66: the others did terribly
[06:43:03 PM] aznkid66: doesn't prove your light-ness at all
[06:43:09 PM] Ryan666: I won 9-0 I think i did pretty well.
[06:43:11 PM] aznkid66: just the others' lack of light-ness
[06:43:24 PM] Ryan666: I didn't brag, i used it to my advantage.
[06:44:03 PM] Ryan666: Just because i didn't switch decks doesn't show i don't have skill. I was actually being smart.
[06:44:29 PM] aznkid66: that's ture
[06:44:31 PM] aznkid66: true*
[06:44:55 PM] aznkid66: but really, the reason you didn't switch decks was because the others couldn't counter you
[06:45:00 PM] Thatnewguy: I used a different deck every round in my single battle :happy:
[06:45:08 PM] aznkid66: because you had ups, and because they weren't...cool.
[06:45:26 PM] aznkid66: you can say that you have more upped cards, therefore more dedication to the game, etc.
[06:45:34 PM] ddevans96z: raging angels counters that deck fairly well
[06:45:37 PM] aznkid66: but not lololololol i am sooo pro cuz i can smite noobs
[06:45:43 PM] Ryan666: But i had the deck building skills to build the deck when they couldn't.
[06:45:45 PM] xdude: this sounds like bragging: I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building.
[06:45:55 PM] Ryan666: Raging angels?
[06:46:05 PM] Ryan666: It does. I can brag, i won 9-0
[06:46:09 PM] aznkid66: deflags, ryan
[06:46:10 PM] xdude: no, not really
[06:46:15 PM] aznkid66: deflags in a light deck
[06:46:29 PM] Ryan666: Yeah, xdude, let me use whatever I want in my speech.
[06:46:30 PM] xdude: he has GPull
[06:46:30 PM] aznkid66: or, pc in a light deck
[06:46:38 PM] xdude: I won't let you use lies -.-
[06:46:43 PM] Ryan666: It's not a lie.
[06:46:45 PM] aznkid66: so fahrensader, vadersader, or raging angels
[06:46:51 PM] xdude: not really was @ [20:45:34] ddevans96z: raging angels counters that deck fairly well
[06:47:07 PM] Ryan666: I had a good record in both Phase 2 and war
[06:47:25 PM] xdude: Also, I'm not stopping you.
[06:47:30 PM] aznkid66: you made your decks for war?
[06:47:36 PM] Ryan666: Whether you think i didn't do well, i your problem.
[06:47:47 PM] Ryan666: No but i played them.
[06:47:48 PM] aznkid66: we don't think you didn't do well
[06:48:02 PM] xdude: it is. And I have the right to say it out loud.
[06:48:07 PM] ddevans96z: deflags? hell any deck with fire would crush it. raging angels is just a better attack.
[06:48:17 PM] Ryan666: Then go for it but don't call me a lier.
[06:48:22 PM] 9270984: bragging wont earn votes
[06:48:30 PM] Ryan666: Nothing I said was a lie.
[06:48:46 PM] Ryan666: The whole speech thing is bragging, your saying why your better than everyone else which is bragging -.-
[06:49:02 PM] xdude: Ryan was miles better than the challengers
[06:49:21 PM] Ryan666: ....
[06:49:36 PM] xdude: ugh, OK :P
[06:49:49 PM] Ryan666: whatever.
[06:50:09 PM] xdude: You see Ryan, the problem is mainly you're saying you're better than Dm/johann/jipp so you're better than me.
[06:50:26 PM] Ryan666: No i'm saying i'm better than them, which i am.
[06:50:44 PM] Thatnewguy: That's not cool.
[06:50:47 PM] xdude: you obviously are
[06:51:18 PM] Ryan666: Where did i say "I am better tahn the challengers, so I'm better than xdude"?
[06:52:47 PM] xdude: Well, I think I'm logging off now. So long, chat!
xdude - added a spoiler
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ANYWAY question time:
@xdude: Do you believe that you can lead this element better than anyone else? If not then why?
@challengers: Why do you believe you can lead light better than someone who has been master for 3 terms?
I don't know. Instinct, probably. Only time can tell. I'll try various and different deck ideas.
And normally I don't make too much of a fuss over those kinds of things, but
1-) Ryan used the same deck over and over. Honestly, any challenger could counter it if they wanted to. I had to make two decks up on the spot, but the rest really could see it coming.
2-) Those that DID try to counter (Me and Johann, I think) either had bad luck or he changed decks. He only changed decks with me, though. Had he not changed, he'd be toast.
3-) It does not mean you are better then us. Some of us had bad luck.
4-) I'm proud that I faced a different deck. XD
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.....you made a compilation of quotes of people praising you...
yes. you WOULD do that...
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.....you made a compilation of quotes of people praising you...
yes. you WOULD do that...
GG vote for me :DD
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For those that like the drama, here is a chat that went on in Chat.
(Deleted the fat)
[06:36:26 PM] xdude: ryan speech is a lie.
[06:36:43 PM] Thatnewguy: What is so bad about the speech?
[06:36:44 PM] 9270984: he says he has a great war record. what he didnt say, how little he did to help team light
[06:37:04 PM] xdude: [20:36:43] Thatnewguy: What is so bad about the speech?[20:36:26] xdude: ryan speech is a lie.
[06:37:09 PM] Thatnewguy: People overlook the facts that make them look bad.
[06:37:25 PM] xdude: that's plain lie.
[06:37:30 PM] xdude: his victories show NOTHING about his skill.
[06:37:57 PM] Thatnewguy: I believe the only reason he won phase 2 is because of 1 sole card. Gravity shield.
[06:38:01 PM] xdude: not an overlooked fact
[06:38:08 PM] xdude: phase 2 was fail of everybody else.
[06:38:09 PM] 9270984: what tng said is true
[06:38:19 PM] xdude: and some bad luck from johann
[06:38:45 PM] aznkid66: i think it was the others' faults for NOT failing against a gravity shield >.>
[06:38:55 PM] aznkid66: heck, just whip up a raging angels + deflag
[06:38:59 PM] Thatnewguy: I blame Rng >.<
[06:39:05 PM] aznkid66: didn't he use the same deck over and over and over?
[06:39:12 PM] Thatnewguy: Basically.
[06:39:13 PM] xdude: yes, he did.
[06:39:14 PM] Dragoon1140: Yes, azn.
[06:39:17 PM] aznkid66: for NOT winning*
[06:39:21 PM] xdude: well, johann tried to counter it
[06:39:26 PM] xdude: he got awful luck
[06:39:29 PM] aznkid66: so its the competition's fault for not making a counter
[06:39:37 PM] Dragoon1140: That's probably because Ryan only has those cards upgraded.
[06:39:40 PM] xdude: jipp... he was just awful in all the fights
[06:39:42 PM] Thatnewguy: DM also tried a deflag deck.
[06:39:49 PM] xdude: and he changed decks with Dm
[06:39:52 PM] morningstar: BL match anyone? I have time for 1 now
[06:40:03 PM] aznkid66: photon is a light card..and it's great for immo..
[06:40:10 PM] Dragoon1140: To be fair to Ryan, though, I would have done the same thing. Why change decks if your opponent cannot counter it?
[06:40:20 PM] Thatnewguy: I used skellies for immolation.
[06:40:21 PM] 9270984: im surprised no one ran vader-sader with steals
[06:40:30 PM] 9270984: or i didnt see anybody who did
[06:40:55 PM] xdude: You would've, Dragoon. But you wouldnt've bragged about your dewckbuilding skills after that.
[06:40:57 PM] Theonlyrealbeef: Dragoon, to me, that only makes me look sad towards other challengers as well
[06:41:38 PM] xdude: I think the only way he could use Phase 2 would be to make all the other guys look bad.
[06:42:07 PM] Ryan666: I did well in phase 2 xdude soooo just stop :P
[06:42:26 PM] xdude: I never said you didn't :P
[06:42:36 PM] xdude: I just said you shouldn't've bragged about it.
[06:42:51 PM] aznkid66: because, ryan, you didn't do well
[06:42:57 PM] aznkid66: the others did terribly
[06:43:03 PM] aznkid66: doesn't prove your light-ness at all
[06:43:09 PM] Ryan666: I won 9-0 I think i did pretty well.
[06:43:11 PM] aznkid66: just the others' lack of light-ness
[06:43:24 PM] Ryan666: I didn't brag, i used it to my advantage.
[06:44:03 PM] Ryan666: Just because i didn't switch decks doesn't show i don't have skill. I was actually being smart.
[06:44:29 PM] aznkid66: that's ture
[06:44:31 PM] aznkid66: true*
[06:44:55 PM] aznkid66: but really, the reason you didn't switch decks was because the others couldn't counter you
[06:45:00 PM] Thatnewguy: I used a different deck every round in my single battle :happy:
[06:45:08 PM] aznkid66: because you had ups, and because they weren't...cool.
[06:45:26 PM] aznkid66: you can say that you have more upped cards, therefore more dedication to the game, etc.
[06:45:34 PM] ddevans96z: raging angels counters that deck fairly well
[06:45:37 PM] aznkid66: but not lololololol i am sooo pro cuz i can smite noobs
[06:45:43 PM] Ryan666: But i had the deck building skills to build the deck when they couldn't.
[06:45:45 PM] xdude: this sounds like bragging: I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building.
[06:45:55 PM] Ryan666: Raging angels?
[06:46:05 PM] Ryan666: It does. I can brag, i won 9-0
[06:46:09 PM] aznkid66: deflags, ryan
[06:46:10 PM] xdude: no, not really
[06:46:15 PM] aznkid66: deflags in a light deck
[06:46:29 PM] Ryan666: Yeah, xdude, let me use whatever I want in my speech.
[06:46:30 PM] xdude: he has GPull
[06:46:30 PM] aznkid66: or, pc in a light deck
[06:46:38 PM] xdude: I won't let you use lies -.-
[06:46:43 PM] Ryan666: It's not a lie.
[06:46:45 PM] aznkid66: so fahrensader, vadersader, or raging angels
[06:46:51 PM] xdude: not really was @ [20:45:34] ddevans96z: raging angels counters that deck fairly well
[06:47:07 PM] Ryan666: I had a good record in both Phase 2 and war
[06:47:25 PM] xdude: Also, I'm not stopping you.
[06:47:30 PM] aznkid66: you made your decks for war?
[06:47:36 PM] Ryan666: Whether you think i didn't do well, i your problem.
[06:47:47 PM] Ryan666: No but i played them.
[06:47:48 PM] aznkid66: we don't think you didn't do well
[06:48:02 PM] xdude: it is. And I have the right to say it out loud.
[06:48:07 PM] ddevans96z: deflags? hell any deck with fire would crush it. raging angels is just a better attack.
[06:48:17 PM] Ryan666: Then go for it but don't call me a lier.
[06:48:22 PM] 9270984: bragging wont earn votes
[06:48:30 PM] Ryan666: Nothing I said was a lie.
[06:48:46 PM] Ryan666: The whole speech thing is bragging, your saying why your better than everyone else which is bragging -.-
[06:49:02 PM] xdude: Ryan was miles better than the challengers
[06:49:21 PM] Ryan666: ....
[06:49:36 PM] xdude: ugh, OK :P
[06:49:49 PM] Ryan666: whatever.
[06:50:09 PM] xdude: You see Ryan, the problem is mainly you're saying you're better than Dm/johann/jipp so you're better than me.
[06:50:26 PM] Ryan666: No i'm saying i'm better than them, which i am.
[06:50:44 PM] Thatnewguy: That's not cool.
[06:50:47 PM] xdude: you obviously are
[06:51:18 PM] Ryan666: Where did i say "I am better tahn the challengers, so I'm better than xdude"?
[06:52:47 PM] xdude: Well, I think I'm logging off now. So long, chat!
xdude - added a spoiler
This is ridiculous.
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Disclaimer: Not answering this question will probably result in me not giving a vote to you, regardless of your standing.
Kind of a serious question, but you can actually take it either way.
Q: Light has a card called 'Miracle'. Can you name something that's happened to you in the forums or in real life that you felt was truly an unexpected Miracle? Or do you believe that those positive incidents were caused by your determination (i.e. - something based on your ability to push through to get through it, rather than some lucky act of fate)?
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A lot of things that normally are "Miracles" are things that you worked for before, noticing it or not.
For example, on the forums, I could call it a miracle that I ended up being a TO with so many much more (I love those three M's) organized and experienced people applying. But if I made it, it's either because I worked hard on my application or because I showed dedication to the Tournaments.
Bah, that's rambling. Let's go to the question itself.
While I do believe in "Miracles", I also don't. Miracles could be a simple accident. I think that you can't sit and wait for a Miracle to happen. You have to work, knowing or not knowing where will that effort lead you, to make the "Miracle" happen. In a way, you are the Miracle.
Was I too confusing? Sorry if I was.
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Disclaimer: Not answering this question will probably result in me not giving a vote to you, regardless of your standing.
Kind of a serious question, but you can actually take it either way.
Q: Light has a card called 'Miracle'. Can you name something that's happened to you in the forums or in real life that you felt was truly an unexpected Miracle? Or do you believe that those positive incidents were caused by your determination (i.e. - something based on your ability to push through to get through it, rather than some lucky act of fate)?
Well one positive event that has happened, that was no miracle but sheer determination was when I got my mom to transfer me to different high schools.
At my old High school, kids used to make fun of me all day, bully me, push me around in hallways and hit me. Then when I went home, it continued online. Facebook; they sent me death threats, saying they were going to kill me, put me in a coma ect.
My mom didn't seem to care too much, but i persisted with needing to go to a new highschool, while dealing with the torture for about two months. Finally one day when I got picked up from school, my mom tells me "Okay, Ryan, I called The New High School, your transferring."
Two days later, I officially didn't have to go to my older school and it felt like I had been blessed with a miracle.
As of now, I have been going to my new high school for about two months and it is heaven. Of course there are bully's, where isn't there? But now there is diversity, I actually have friends, people who support me and care about me. After going through the torture of bullying, having support and friends is the greatest feeling in the world.
-Ryan666
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It is one thing to know thyself. It is another to know thy enemy.
What is Darkness?
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Looks like a busy day buried me in this thread somewhat! Lot of ground to cover here...
Challengers: I certainly understand the thirst for power, but xdude has been a phenomenal master. He knows :light inside and out, what it can do and what it cannot. What can you do that he cannot/has not?
I haven't read up on everything he's done, but I can tell you what I can do. Since I was very young, I've had a strong strategic mind - in fact, I'm almost to the point where I might be diagnosed OCD. It's a blessing and a curse, and I often lose the forest for the trees. War sounds like fun, though I haven't been in War before. My strongest contribution to this community so far has been active involvement in the card ideas section - I have provided strong constructive criticism of others' ideas, long before this Trial started, and whether or not I make Master status, this will likely continue.
I also currently hold the most card ideas in the Armory (3), unless someone's equaled me since I last checked... though I don't have any in the Reliquary yet. As Master, I would apply myself strongly to seeing that Light's card ideas are refined as much as possible, and offer my own ideas as well. Crusader was a very strong addition, we need more cards like that.
To all: I look for maturity in whichever candidate that I want as master, something I have felt has been sorely lacking by some of those in the trials. This is more of a general statement than a question, just something I thought you all should know.
I agree! Been very thankful to have a drama-free, good-sportsmanship-filled Light Trial this time around. In addition, I feel that since a Master ought to set the example for other players, ego also has no place. I hope this has been true of me, and if you feel it hasn't, I hope you will bring it to me right away.
Well, johann seemed like the most inventive deckbuilder.
I take that as high praise, sir! Your comments in each of the Phase 2 result threads were duly noted; it seems I was more focused on countering the secondary elements I anticipated each player using, than focused on countering Light itself. Hence stuff like Dune Scorps to counter Antimatter.
What does Light symbolise for you?
Stability. The weapon and two of three shields are immaterial, Hope provides the strongest potential physical damage reduction in the game, and all creatures except Photon and Pegasus have strong health - coupled with Angel healing and Holy Light. Light in Elements is similar to the Cleric class on my old NwN server: built to ignore stuff, not counter it.
What will you do for this element as a Master? What is your vision?
Light has actually been one of my favorite elements since I started playing, but when I first joined, I didn't know a thing about playing it well, of course. I dabbled in most of the other elements, notably Fire, Water, Time, and Life, before realizing Light had potential I hadn't seen. As a Master, one major part of my vision would be to aid newbies; established players will continue to learn and grow on their own, but the new player needs encouragement to stay and add to the community. Plus, Light is one of those elements whose merits won't be immediately apparent to a new player - they are more likely to see potential in Fire, Earth, Darkness, or Aether, which have much more obvious tactics.
What types of cards does Light need in game to finish covering the Element Light?
I disagree with Dm, Ryan, and xdude here, I don't think Light really needs any kind of control. What Light currently lacks are any real direct counters beyond Holy Light vs Death/Darkness (which IMO needs to be removed), and I think it should stay that way. Light should get more cards that synergize with creature healing, damage reduction (go Solar Buckler!), and perhaps a good non-damage pump spell (though it could be argued Hope sort of falls in that category, despite being a permanent).
Phase Shield, Gravity Shield and to an extent Bonewall are great vs Light. PC would help against the better 2 (better vs Light, of course)
That is an excellent reason for Light to stay PC-less. Duo decks are a good way to get access to PC already, and it is good for some cards to be better versus certain elements. You wouldn't expect Phase Shield to be good versus Fire opponents, but other things work well... Jade Shield comes to mind.
Many people see Light as "The Element that is only Good for ROL/Hope." How could you prove them wrong?
By beating them up with Crusaders, Rage Angels, etc. Succumbing to a deck does wonders for one's respect for the cards involved.
Would you ever use Holy Light (Against :darkness/ :death is excluded.)?
Yes. Angel/Armagio is an interesting example. Most people think only of the player-healing it can provide, which is usually too weak to matter... but especially coupled with Blessing, it makes a great way to emergency-heal your creatures. Twice the healing of Guardian Angel, and no summoning sickness. I actually packed a couple of these in at least one of my Trial Phase 2 decks.
And why the red and yellow?
xdude was showing what he thought was a contradiction between the yellow and red parts... but it looks like he misunderstood you. You seemed to be saying, "we're only talking about mono-Light BUT you can duo with Light to get ways to handle stuff." Which is true and non-contradictory.
Why do you believe you can lead light better than someone who has been master for 3 terms?
Oh, I can't do what xdude has done better than him, he is playing to his strengths and those are not my strengths. I can do different things, however - and while xdude probably has some more to offer the community, it is likely that - having spent 3 "terms" as Master - his contributions have mostly been seen already. There is an argument to be made for fresh blood. Better? No, that's too much apples and oranges. I can promise I'll be as fair as him and not make it about my ego or agenda. This Trial is a win-win for me... if I oust xdude, being Master will lead me to do things I might not otherwise have done, partly I expect through more direct involvement with the leadership of the community. If I remain a humble neophyte, the pressure of responsibility is off, and I have no obligations.
Oooh, yes or no question! Yes. Because so far nobody was even close to proving me otherwise.
I disagree. Pre-empting any "of course you had to say that," I think this shouldn't have been a yes or no question... as I said above, it seems like apples and oranges. So jippy isn't as experienced a PvPer. So Ryan didn't use any terribly original deck concepts. So I didn't participate in the last War and have been largely uninvolved in organized PvP until now, and fared badly against my fellow challengers. I think jippy has proven his worth through his learner's attitude and eagerness to help (perhaps he isn't ready now, but given more experience, he may fit the spot nicely). Ryan showed excellent PvP play against everyone, using his decks the best he could. Dm has already shown his ability to lead through organizing tournaments. And I'd like to think that I've shown some of my personal strengths through my participation in this Trial. By your standard, maybe nobody's proven they're as "good as you," whatever that means... by my standard, heck yes they have.
1-) Ryan used the same deck over and over. Honestly, any challenger could counter it if they wanted to. I had to make two decks up on the spot, but the rest really could see it coming.
As xdude was kind to point out in the chat quote, I did try to counter it but my luck was terrible while doing that... and Ryan didn't use the exact same deck each time. He tweaked it between matches. Yeah, it was still Light/Gravity, but he did adjust to his opponents' perceived tactics. It was not Gravity Shield that killed us every time - in several matches it was Gravity Pull. In my first game against him, if he hadn't used Gravity Pull, it may have been an easy win for me via blessed Squids.
Earlier I mentioned ego as one thing I think a Master shouldn't have... really, with that whole chat quote as well as some of his comments on here, I'm thinking Light does need a change. Reminds me of politicians slamming each other...
*ahem* Moving on...
Q: Light has a card called 'Miracle'. Can you name something that's happened to you in the forums or in real life that you felt was truly an unexpected Miracle? Or do you believe that those positive incidents were caused by your determination (i.e. - something based on your ability to push through to get through it, rather than some lucky act of fate)?
Joining the theater group I'm in. Before I did that, I was dealing with a lot of non-self-imposed isolation and really awful depression. I'm an introvert, and it's really tough for me to make friends outside of an environment like college where friendships happen naturally. At several points I was getting close to suicide... I believe it's no understatement that that community of creative souls has saved my life and made it much more worth living, all at once. Perhaps not a miracle by definition, since miracles are supposed to be things that break natural laws, but in my mind, I'd call it a miracle by virtue of its importance in my life's direction.
I am a much happier person now, so much has changed in the past year, I wouldn't know where to begin. Thanks for asking, I enjoyed sharing! :D
What is Darkness?
Darkness is subtlety. While Light is immobile and constant, Darkness flits about and uses subversion rather than force. Its only shield makes the user hard to hit, Cloak conceals everything, Voodoo Doll is unaffected (or its purpose fulfilled) by most forms of CC, and its damage can't be prevented in any way. Steal uses the target's permanents against him, Devourers slowly leech off the opponent's ability to fight back, and Parasites will kill the entire enemy field slowly and repeatedly if not dealt with, despite being small and vulnerable.
Due to my lack of success in Phase 2, I'm unlikely to succeed enough here to have a shot at xdude, though it's still possible. If you vote for me, I'll take that as a vote of confidence and repay it to the best of my ability. If you vote for someone else, I'll trust you have good reasons for it - my fellow challengers have been pretty impressive. Do keep something in mind, though: a vote for xdude is a vote for Ryan, in practice, since he has the lead (though it will also boost xdude's upped card count). Putting whether he'd make a good Master aside completely, the voting phase is primarily the last step in determining who gets to face him.
EDIT: I have one suggestion for the next Trial - a closer point differential for phase 2. With the votes in phase 3 likely being much more of an even split, a 10-6-4-0 spread makes it extremely unlikely to recover from even second place, and nearly impossible to recover from third and fourth. A 10-8-6-5 spread or some such would be a bit less fate-sealing and allow the potential for comebacks, without making phase 2 meaningless. With 10-8-6-5, a second-placer in the battles could win with 40% over his rival's 20%... and someone who placed fourth would need 70% of the vote to overcome the same.
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No question on who im voting for in here *no i wont tell you who*
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Ok, im making this clear here. DO NOT VOTE FOR ME! I do not want to take votes away from anyone else, seeing that it is physically impossible for me to win. Therefore, I will not answer any questions. Good luck to everybody.
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Well, it's possible, but no one can vote for anyone but you, and then it would be a tie with you and Ryan. I'd still be interested to know your answers to some of these questions, though I guess you think that could make people miss this post of yours and think you still want to be in the race. Probably true.
We can't see the results, and I always think it's sort of pointless to follow the horse race, but if I had to guess, I'd say most of the votes are going to Ryan or Dm. I'm a bit far gone myself, and like I said, a vote for xdude won't help xdude be the one to face xdude.
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Based on what I've read here, and about. My vote is pretty much clear.
You are most welcome, johannhowitzer. Good luck!
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It is one thing to know thyself. It is another to know thy enemy.
What is Darkness?
Darkness is the absence of Light. When Light fades, Darkness comes up. Hopefully, that won't happen while I'm still here.
...oh right. This is about Elements. In elements Darkness is the jack of all trades. It has the ability to do everything, but is not truly the best at anything. A trade of sheer power, for versatility.
Disclaimer: Not answering this question will probably result in me not giving a vote to you, regardless of your standing.
Kind of a serious question, but you can actually take it either way.
Q: Light has a card called 'Miracle'. Can you name something that's happened to you in the forums or in real life that you felt was truly an unexpected Miracle? Or do you believe that those positive incidents were caused by your determination (i.e. - something based on your ability to push through to get through it, rather than some lucky act of fate)?
As DM ninja'd me pointed out, most Miracles are things you work for. But I'd say me winning against more than twice my ups last Trials could be considered a Miracle.
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I'm going to take this in a bit different direction than most and ask you a little about deckbuilding.
What (war legal) decks would you build to defeat these two decks?
The decks should be all unupped and preferably not involve and nymphs as you don't know who will have to face down the decks.
Also, though the decks should be targeted counters, they shouldn't fall apart against other decks.
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EDIT: Slight change on the wording to clarify.
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Ah, the most fun task!
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Thanks for this, it was fun practice.
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Holy Walls of Text, Batman! MADNESS, I tell you! I truly do!
Welcome back, Johann. =P
Let's start.
I'm going to take this in a bit different direction than most and ask you a little about deckbuilding.
What would you build to defeat one of these two decks (a war legal deck obviously)?
4vj 4vj 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 542 5424vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 593 5f6 5og 5oi 5oi 61qI'm not looking for some completely tested deck that totally owns them, more a deck that should in theory work as an expression of deck building creativity.
Hellooou, Quanta T.
For the first deck, the choice would be Animated Morning Stars. Pande can't reach them, therefore rendering his Bonewall useless. As to take care of the poison, I'd pack one or two Miracles, as they can take care of it - The Morning Stars can take down the bonewall pretty quick and can also win amazingly fast.
The second one is kind of easier as I have defeated one that looks quite like that. Pack Solar Bucklers, no matter what you do - They will produce light quanta, so what you lose from Discord will kind of be back in but a few short turns. Divide my quanta production between pendulums and pillars to avoid that Nasty EQ, and since I didn't give you a splash yet, I would bless and fly the peggies. Discord would even give me Air Quanta, so I wouldn't even need Air Mark in a way. But I'd still pick Air Mark to be sure.
Those both, in theory, can win.
It is one thing to know thyself. It is another to know thy enemy.
What is Darkness?
The other part of light. It takes control of the board and of what others use to gain advantage. It doesn't helps itself or others, it harms others and takes what others have.
In a way, that could be it. I'll put it in more detail once I have the time, which should be soon.
As xdude was kind to point out in the chat quote, I did try to counter it but my luck was terrible while doing that... and Ryan didn't use the exact same deck each time. He tweaked it between matches. Yeah, it was still Light/Gravity, but he did adjust to his opponents' perceived tactics. It was not Gravity Shield that killed us every time - in several matches it was Gravity Pull. In my first game against him, if he hadn't used Gravity Pull, it may have been an easy win for me via blessed Squids.
I know. I said that some of us either had bad luck or something.
Edit : Xdude's first deck is pratically mine with Owl's Eyes! I can assure you I was writing this BEFORE he posted. So I didn't copy
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Dm1321, think I could get some deck codes?
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Hello!. I got a couple of questions for u guys.
1. Which of these qualities should a Master have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Honesty,Compassion,Passion, Diligence,Integrity,Patience,Respectful,Attitude or Others.(if any)
2. Which of these qualities should a Master NOT have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Boastfulness,Proud,Laziness,Disrespectful towards others,Dishonesty,Ill-Tempered, or Others.(if any)
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QuantumT, Truly sorry, but at this time I cannot. I woke up with some awful internet today and I can't log in elements. I'll give you two decks tomorrow or later today - Sorry I can't give 'em to you right now. But here's a small list for you
6x Morning Star
5x Flying Weapon
3x Miracle
16x Pillars.
That's a rough draft, coming up from the pure scratch and what the deck is based off. Other changes or modifications are (But not limited to) :
One less Morning, One less Flying weapon, 1 Dragon and 1 more pillar
Dragons
Possibly a peggy
And to the second, another very very rough example :
3x Solar Buckler (Two for deflag, three for early.)
4x Peggies (Moar the merrier - Let's draw out that CC.)
5x Bless (Your choice. I'd pack around 5 just to be moar powerful, but we have 'nuff of our peggies.)
6x-7x Pillars o' Light
4x-3x Pends o' Light
So we're at 22 cards. The rest is your choice. I'd suggest, since we have pends and air mark, a possible upped Sky Blitz, Shockwave for some minor CC, and maybe more pillars if you feel you're short on it.
Please notice that the first is kind of "Play all you can", but the second utilizes more strategy. You need to not only know when to play your peggy, but you also need to know when to play that shockwave or Sky Blitz. The thing that requires the most timing would be when you have to play Pillars or Pends. The main idea is to throw out pends if you can to make them be EQ'd, or play one pillar after one pillar to make that EQ be drawn out. If you dump your whole hand on the board you'll be run over by elephants and graboids.Hello!. I got a couple of questions for u guys.
1. Which of these qualities should a Master have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Honesty,Compassion,Passion, Diligence,Integrity,Patience,Respectful,Attitude or Others.(if any)
2. Which of these qualities should a Master NOT have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Boastfulness,Proud,Laziness,Disrespectful towards others,Dishonesty,Ill-Tempered, or Others.(if any)
I like your question. If I had to choose one, I think that Honesty is the one. You can't lie to your companions if you hope to win a War, nor to the community if you want your comments to be heard. Tell the truth, and they'll tell the truth to you. Or not.
Second would be Dishonesty. Lying is bad to you and to others. Shouldn't happen at all.
Now if I were to put them in order, the one that a master SHOULD have would be something like this..
Honesty, Respectful, Patience, Passion, Compassion, Integrity and Dilligence. The top 3 for me are in that other, but the others can be arranged in any way.
And the ones that should NOT have..
Dishonesty, Laziness, Boastfulness, Disrespectful toward others, Ill-tempered and Proud.
I put proud last as being proud isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Hello!. I got a couple of questions for u guys.
1. Which of these qualities should a Master have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Honesty,Compassion,Passion, Diligence,Integrity,Patience,Respectful,Attitude or Others.(if any)
2. Which of these qualities should a Master NOT have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Boastfulness,Proud,Laziness,Disrespectful towards others,Dishonesty,Ill-Tempered, or Others.(if any)
1. Passion. All the rest are null if you're like "*insert element here* sucks... I'm just a Master 'cause I'm bored... yeah...*
2. Laziness. At least for War, the most sure way a team can lose is with an inactive general.
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Hey guys!. I got a deckbuliding question for u guys too.(Have Fun!)
What kind of deck(s) would You use to counter the decks below.
The decks should be all unupped and preferably having no nymphs as you wont know who would have to face the decks.
You would have to use your own element and another element to make the deck. Try and make a deck which ppl would understand how to use it easily.
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Ein, 1 question. You want them to be good decks in general, or perfect counters?
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What the heck. I guess Ill answer a few questions, just for the fun of it.
Hello!. I got a couple of questions for u guys.
1. Which of these qualities should a Master have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Honesty,Compassion,Passion, Diligence,Integrity,Patience,Respectful,Attitude or Others.(if any)
2. Which of these qualities should a Master NOT have and why?(Pls choose one from the list.)
Boastfulness,Proud,Laziness,Disrespectful towards others,Dishonesty,Ill-Tempered, or Others.(if any)
1. Humble. It took me awhile to decide, but I came to this. A humble master would be congratulatory to others in any event, regardless of the outcome. They also would not be boastful and say things like this: My element is so much better than yours, it sucks, or I am such a better PvPer than you are. Lastly, a humble master does not make any comments on how he has a higher rank than other people. So people, if they were to become masters, would say things like, I a master, I am better than you, and therefore my opinion is more important.
2. I would have to say disrespectful towards others. I say this because nobody wants a leader who doesnt treat you right. Think of having a disrespectful master in war. This master would be constantly sneering, not agreeing or even listening with what anyone has to say, and using unnecessary trash talk to other teams, trying to downsize them.
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Hey guys!. I got a deckbuliding question for u guys too.(Have Fun!)
What kind of deck(s) would You use to counter the decks below.
The decks should be all unupped and preferably having no nymphs as you wont know who would have to face the decks.
You would have to use your own element and another element to make the deck. Try and make a deck which ppl would understand how to use it easily.
4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vk 4vk 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vp 4vp 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt
Nevermind my previous question. I just found a great deck to counter BOTH of those:
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Xdude's deck is good. I'll use something different.
1st deck : Quite easy. I'd pack deflags and dragons (Go by the wonderful Pande easily, and even if Mutated will still be quite good, and will kill slowly.)
2nd Deck : Purify. If I wasn't going to pack purify, then I'd use a deck with darkness and 6 devourers. Possible Vampire + Bless for some massive healing, in case he even gets out one momentum before the Devourers make the job.
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I'm going to take this in a bit different direction than most and ask you a little about deckbuilding.
What (war legal) decks would you build to defeat these two decks?
The decks should be all unupped and preferably not involve and nymphs as you don't know who will have to face down the decks.
Also, though the decks should be targeted counters, they shouldn't fall apart against other decks.
4vj 4vj 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 542 5424vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 593 5f6 5og 5oi 5oi 61qI'm not looking for some completely tested deck that totally owns them, more a deck that should in theory work as an expression of deck building creativity.
EDIT: Slight change on the wording to clarify.
I can't really say anything about the first deck that Dm and xdude haven't already covered - Morning Star is the obvious choice vs Pandemonium, and Purify is the obvious counter to Poison. It's an easy deck for Light to directly counter.
For the second, a neat trick would be to counter with Crusader, and perhaps make it a Darkness combo for the sake of Steal on that Fog Shield. Dm's idea of using Solar Shield is very solid - testing might be necessary, but my guess is that the Buckler will grant 1 :light after the Discord in the opponent's weapon slot connects - guaranteeing you won't be at 0 :light on the start of any turn.
Hey guys!. I got a deckbuliding question for u guys too.(Have Fun!)
What kind of deck(s) would You use to counter the decks below.
The decks should be all unupped and preferably having no nymphs as you wont know who would have to face the decks.
You would have to use your own element and another element to make the deck. Try and make a deck which ppl would understand how to use it easily.
4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vk 4vk 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vp 4vp 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v 55v55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt
First deck is WAY too easy to beat, as it has only one source of damage, a single Discord. I would go with a Gravity duo and pack Momentums, that setup with a single Crusader is enough to win. Deflagration could be effective, but is a bit too dependent on luck, as six Dissipation Shields need to be countered by a full six Deflags.
Second deck's counter was covered cleanly by xdude, Purify being the obvious choice against Dune Scorpions and Morning Star obvious against Eternity. With an Aether combo, Lobotomizer would also shine in combination with Solar Shield.
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@ Johann
I know that as people post decks the available options decrease, but do you have any ideas for other possible decks? They don't necessarily have to be quite as effective (I'll keep in mind the order people posted in) but I think that being able to come up with possible alternatives is good.
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For your Pandemonium deck, a Holy Light/Voodoo Doll combo would be effective, using Pandemonium against your opponent. Doll damage also bypasses Bone Wall. Perhaps toss in a couple Blessings so the Dolls aren't just an indirect threat. Steals would be a natural addition to handle the Arsenics.
The Graboid Discord deck could be countered with a neat Light/Gravity duo - Crusaders, as I said, can mimic the enemy Discords, which synergizes well with Black Hole (by itself a decent counter to those Novas, though unable to prevent quanta-dumping), and Gravity Pull is low-cost and can easily mop up the Shriekers, even if you don't actually damage them until after they burrow.
A good second counter idea for the Graboid deck would be Light/Life. Thorn Carapace mops up Shriekers and flown Discords, and with only one shot of CC to worry about, all that Light quanta can be converted via Rustler into a strong Emerald Dragon army.
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For those that like the drama, here is a chat that went on in Chat.
(Deleted the fat)
[06:36:26 PM] xdude: ryan speech is a lie.
[06:36:43 PM] Thatnewguy: What is so bad about the speech?
[06:36:44 PM] 9270984: he says he has a great war record. what he didnt say, how little he did to help team light
[06:37:04 PM] xdude: [20:36:43] Thatnewguy: What is so bad about the speech?[20:36:26] xdude: ryan speech is a lie.
[06:37:09 PM] Thatnewguy: People overlook the facts that make them look bad.
[06:37:25 PM] xdude: that's plain lie.
[06:37:30 PM] xdude: his victories show NOTHING about his skill.
[06:37:57 PM] Thatnewguy: I believe the only reason he won phase 2 is because of 1 sole card. Gravity shield.
[06:38:01 PM] xdude: not an overlooked fact
[06:38:08 PM] xdude: phase 2 was fail of everybody else.
[06:38:09 PM] 9270984: what tng said is true
[06:38:19 PM] xdude: and some bad luck from johann
[06:38:45 PM] aznkid66: i think it was the others' faults for NOT failing against a gravity shield >.>
[06:38:55 PM] aznkid66: heck, just whip up a raging angels + deflag
[06:38:59 PM] Thatnewguy: I blame Rng >.<
[06:39:05 PM] aznkid66: didn't he use the same deck over and over and over?
[06:39:12 PM] Thatnewguy: Basically.
[06:39:13 PM] xdude: yes, he did.
[06:39:14 PM] Dragoon1140: Yes, azn.
[06:39:17 PM] aznkid66: for NOT winning*
[06:39:21 PM] xdude: well, johann tried to counter it
[06:39:26 PM] xdude: he got awful luck
[06:39:29 PM] aznkid66: so its the competition's fault for not making a counter
[06:39:37 PM] Dragoon1140: That's probably because Ryan only has those cards upgraded.
[06:39:40 PM] xdude: jipp... he was just awful in all the fights
[06:39:42 PM] Thatnewguy: DM also tried a deflag deck.
[06:39:49 PM] xdude: and he changed decks with Dm
[06:39:52 PM] morningstar: BL match anyone? I have time for 1 now
[06:40:03 PM] aznkid66: photon is a light card..and it's great for immo..
[06:40:10 PM] Dragoon1140: To be fair to Ryan, though, I would have done the same thing. Why change decks if your opponent cannot counter it?
[06:40:20 PM] Thatnewguy: I used skellies for immolation.
[06:40:21 PM] 9270984: im surprised no one ran vader-sader with steals
[06:40:30 PM] 9270984: or i didnt see anybody who did
[06:40:55 PM] xdude: You would've, Dragoon. But you wouldnt've bragged about your dewckbuilding skills after that.
[06:40:57 PM] Theonlyrealbeef: Dragoon, to me, that only makes me look sad towards other challengers as well
[06:41:38 PM] xdude: I think the only way he could use Phase 2 would be to make all the other guys look bad.
[06:42:07 PM] Ryan666: I did well in phase 2 xdude soooo just stop :P
[06:42:26 PM] xdude: I never said you didn't :P
[06:42:36 PM] xdude: I just said you shouldn't've bragged about it.
[06:42:51 PM] aznkid66: because, ryan, you didn't do well
[06:42:57 PM] aznkid66: the others did terribly
[06:43:03 PM] aznkid66: doesn't prove your light-ness at all
[06:43:09 PM] Ryan666: I won 9-0 I think i did pretty well.
[06:43:11 PM] aznkid66: just the others' lack of light-ness
[06:43:24 PM] Ryan666: I didn't brag, i used it to my advantage.
[06:44:03 PM] Ryan666: Just because i didn't switch decks doesn't show i don't have skill. I was actually being smart.
[06:44:29 PM] aznkid66: that's ture
[06:44:31 PM] aznkid66: true*
[06:44:55 PM] aznkid66: but really, the reason you didn't switch decks was because the others couldn't counter you
[06:45:00 PM] Thatnewguy: I used a different deck every round in my single battle :happy:
[06:45:08 PM] aznkid66: because you had ups, and because they weren't...cool.
[06:45:26 PM] aznkid66: you can say that you have more upped cards, therefore more dedication to the game, etc.
[06:45:34 PM] ddevans96z: raging angels counters that deck fairly well
[06:45:37 PM] aznkid66: but not lololololol i am sooo pro cuz i can smite noobs
[06:45:43 PM] Ryan666: But i had the deck building skills to build the deck when they couldn't.
[06:45:45 PM] xdude: this sounds like bragging: I won 9-0, that has to show I have some sort of skill in pvp/deck building.
[06:45:55 PM] Ryan666: Raging angels?
[06:46:05 PM] Ryan666: It does. I can brag, i won 9-0
[06:46:09 PM] aznkid66: deflags, ryan
[06:46:10 PM] xdude: no, not really
[06:46:15 PM] aznkid66: deflags in a light deck
[06:46:29 PM] Ryan666: Yeah, xdude, let me use whatever I want in my speech.
[06:46:30 PM] xdude: he has GPull
[06:46:30 PM] aznkid66: or, pc in a light deck
[06:46:38 PM] xdude: I won't let you use lies -.-
[06:46:43 PM] Ryan666: It's not a lie.
[06:46:45 PM] aznkid66: so fahrensader, vadersader, or raging angels
[06:46:51 PM] xdude: not really was @ [20:45:34] ddevans96z: raging angels counters that deck fairly well
[06:47:07 PM] Ryan666: I had a good record in both Phase 2 and war
[06:47:25 PM] xdude: Also, I'm not stopping you.
[06:47:30 PM] aznkid66: you made your decks for war?
[06:47:36 PM] Ryan666: Whether you think i didn't do well, i your problem.
[06:47:47 PM] Ryan666: No but i played them.
[06:47:48 PM] aznkid66: we don't think you didn't do well
[06:48:02 PM] xdude: it is. And I have the right to say it out loud.
[06:48:07 PM] ddevans96z: deflags? hell any deck with fire would crush it. raging angels is just a better attack.
[06:48:17 PM] Ryan666: Then go for it but don't call me a lier.
[06:48:22 PM] 9270984: bragging wont earn votes
[06:48:30 PM] Ryan666: Nothing I said was a lie.
[06:48:46 PM] Ryan666: The whole speech thing is bragging, your saying why your better than everyone else which is bragging -.-
[06:49:02 PM] xdude: Ryan was miles better than the challengers
[06:49:21 PM] Ryan666: ....
[06:49:36 PM] xdude: ugh, OK :P
[06:49:49 PM] Ryan666: whatever.
[06:50:09 PM] xdude: You see Ryan, the problem is mainly you're saying you're better than Dm/johann/jipp so you're better than me.
[06:50:26 PM] Ryan666: No i'm saying i'm better than them, which i am.
[06:50:44 PM] Thatnewguy: That's not cool.
[06:50:47 PM] xdude: you obviously are
[06:51:18 PM] Ryan666: Where did i say "I am better tahn the challengers, so I'm better than xdude"?
[06:52:47 PM] xdude: Well, I think I'm logging off now. So long, chat!
xdude - added a spoiler
This is ridiculous.
Sorry to say, Ryan, but you just got owned in the face.
*gives a hug*
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Question: Do you object to swearing?
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Question: Do you object to swearing?
If it's used as means for flaming/trolling, obviously. But generally, if it's used just for fun/not directed at anybody, nope.
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Question: Do you object to swearing?
Basically the same thing as xdude. If its directed at someone, I object, but if its not, its fine.
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Personally I don't swear (never picked up the habit), but others swearing doesn't bother me. Personal attacks are unacceptable in any case, even if you're not a Master.
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Dear future potential masters of light:
Deckbuilding challenge:
Design an :air/ :fire/ :light trio
that can beat what you consider to be the 3 most annoying decks, and state what those decks are.
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Question: Do you object to swearing?
Depends. Personal attacks? Yes. I look down on that. Small swearings like "Oh, damn, I didn't get a nymph" or "F*** HE GOT A UG" doesn't really bothers me.
Dear future potential masters of light:
Deckbuilding challenge:
Design an :air/ :fire/ :light trio
that can beat what you consider to be the 3 most annoying decks, and state what those decks are.
Okay. Like I said, I'm on a internet fail, and catching up on tests. So I'll only put up the lists and probably tomorrow or after tomorrow I will post all the decks that you guys are asking for - the code way.
Dear doublecross crossed cross of cross.
The three most annoying decks, for me, would be
1- Any kind of Lava Golem Rush.
2- RoL/Hope, that gets quite annyoing once it goes up, even if it's half from my own element
3- USEM, because of heals.
Those three are all very popular, and on a way, VERY annoying. So this would be my deck
5 UG's
3 Shockwave
1 Sky Blitz
(Air done. Total = 9 cards.) This part is designed to kill RoL/Hope and USEM in a good draw; also Lava Golem with shockwaves. But not done, of course.
4-6 Fire Pends
2 FireBolt
(This part is designed to light the UG's and to firebolt any big Lava Golem, and then shockwave to death.
Fire Total = (Basing on 5 fire pends, That is) 7.
Total up 'till now = 16)
So now we need Light. Let's be a little obvious here.
4 Light Pends, 5 Light Pillars, 2 Pegasus, 3 bless)
This part is the main attacking. We're going to have our Air, so.. Dive and Sky Blitz. Bless takes care of any UG damage we might take.)
Total Light Cards - 14
Total cards - 30
Possible changes : Minus 1 sky blitz, plus 1 or maybe 2 reflective shields in case your opponent uses a modified RoL/Hope with Reflective Shield to counter Octooctooctane.
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Dear future potential masters of light:
Deckbuilding challenge:
Design an :air/ :fire/ :light trio
that can beat what you consider to be the 3 most annoying decks, and state what those decks are.
7dm 7dm 7do 7do 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7jr 7jr 7k1 7k2 7k2 7n6 7n6 7n6 7n6 7n6 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe
Could be used to kill rol hope.
Can stop Lava rush.
Can beat life rush.
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Dear future potential masters of light:
Deckbuilding challenge:
Design an :air/ :fire/ :light trio
that can beat what you consider to be the 3 most annoying decks, and state what those decks are.
UPPED
7dr 7dr 7dr 7dr 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7k1 7k1 7k2 7k2 7k2 7k2 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7n0 7n0 7n4 7n4 7n4 7n4 7n4 7n4 7n6 7n6 7n6 7n6
Can beat RQ deck due to having 2 different types of damage (supposing the user won't draw Reflective Shield, Alfatoxin and lots of healing; long shot though, but better chances than most decks)
RoL/Hope is toast.
USEM is too slow, Heals get redundant
UNUPPED
5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l9 5l9 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5li 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi
Aether Stall gets outstalled, outrushed and unshielded.
Adrena-Frogs... needs moar damage.
Unupped RQ decks/Firestalls... yeah
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Question: Do you object to swearing?
No. I think that swearing is not as big of a deal as everyone makes it out to be. Normally when your arguing with eomeone, the just don't listen but once yo start swearing, you get your point across. I think that in some cases saying things like "I can't f***ing believe you would lie to me," is okay but saying it in access,"i am at f***ing McDonalds and i'm f***ing getting my f***ing order of eggs," is totally not okay and useing it to verbally assault someone is not okay.
So I think in most cases it is okay and in others, it is not. So no I do not object to it, but i don't go out of my way to do it.
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And my vote goes to xdude. He has his faults (I call him lazydude :P) but will continue to be a great master of :light, no doubt in my mind.
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And my vote goes to xdude. He has his faults (I call him lazydude :P) but will continue to be a great master of :light, no doubt in my mind.
Not only do i agree, but i wouldnt call him lazy, as being lazy is an art mastered by few people (like me) i would call him more like reasonably procrastinator, anyways
VOTE XDUDE * If u want a reliable guy for master, who is overall the best (at least for me)*
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Question 1: A brand new player(say less than a week old) registers in the forum. Upon looking at a link of the :light trials, they see your avatar.
They ask you simply: who is that man? What significance is it to you?
He is Dmitri Shostakovich, 20th Century Russian composer, and he is my look-alike.
Question 2: Consider this scenario. You didn't make it in this trails and you didn't make it in the next war. Another person has taken the role as :light master
After the trials, that :light master posts, and states officially they cannot possibly play due to personal problems. This person cannot lead :light into battle in the war and will leave for a very long period of time, claim is honorable and reasonable due to the circumstance.
Team members have already been chosen for :light. But by zanzarino, Scaredgirl, the council, and the war master's judgment decide you should be placed as master of :light.
1/2 of the players surrounding the war and even 1/2 of the members of the newly built :light team are against such an idea.
the other 1/2 of the players surrounding the war and the other 1/2 of the members of the newly built :light team welcome you.
Declare a side you would pick. Give a speech/solution to this crisis.
(I'm not picking sides, because "a house divided against itself..." Also, you don't mention why half of them are against me taking over. Without that information, this is going to sound pretty generic.)
"If you don't want me to be Master, I'll respect that sentiment, but this is a decision handed down to me so that the War can continue. We're supposed to be a team, and like it or not, I am going to be your captain. If you decide to let this get in the way of doing your best and working together, you shame this team and [Former Master]. If you won't do it for me, do it for him. Why did you join this team? Was it to play on [Former Master]'s side? Was it because other teams were already full and you figured one team was as good as another? Or did you join because you believe - as I do - that Light is the greatest of the Elements, and you're going to prove that to the world? Put aside your disagreements. Our opponents won't give us a break because we had to change Masters at the last minute. Don't give them a break either."
Question 3: Many people take up the roles of leadership with the notion of "having something to prove" or "having something they believe in", even as humble as "to test ones self"
Consider the scenario: You become the master of :light.
After a long and difficult road. Your team wins the war.
What would this prove to yourself and others?
To myself I have nothing to prove here, and I care little what others think of me, but it would prove that a landslide comeback is possible in Trials. As for the War, we would have proven that Gravity and Entropy can do nothing to put out Light. Gravity may swing us around, and Entropy may scatter us to the corners of the universe, but we will still emerge shining as bright as ever!!
(commence cheesy movie-style battle cry)
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And my vote goes to xdude. He has his faults (I call him lazydude :P) but will continue to be a great master of :light, no doubt in my mind.
Not only do i agree, but i wouldnt call him lazy, as being lazy is an art mastered by few people (like me) i would call him more like reasonably procrastinator, anyways
VOTE XDUDE * If u want a reliable guy for master, who is overall the best (at least for me)*
Me? Lazy? Why, I'd never!
DK:
1. Different. Not harder or easier, but different. However, I think the experience from War 1 helped a lot in deckbuilding / Vault managing. Also, you might want to change the wording to "the only one who has been a Master since the start". I'm the only Light Master that ever was 8) (seriously!)
2. I'd tell them to post on deck threads, participate in Leagues/Weekly Tournaments/PvP events and, most importantly, hang out in chat. The chat is really the best way to get yourself known.
3. First, I'm not sure I'd want to go again. If I were to be defeated while having 5+ upped cards advantage I'd wonder whether or not I'm capable of being as good as a Master as the winner. If I WOULD want to get the title back, I'd study each and every deck of my opponent, find EVERY single mistake in his deckbuilding style, make at least a dozen decks for next Trials and use his weaknesses as much as I can. (note: sadly, I've only seen 1 of Ryan's decks, so I can't show you what I mean now. :-X )
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IMPORTANT NOTE : After reading DK's post through over and over, I noticed jippy's quote. I suggest that if by some random reason you decided to vote on me instead of jippy (who knows.) I'd like to ask you not to. Vote on him normally. After all, this is for the person you'd think that'd become the best master. If it's impossible or not for him to join, that's the main question, and I'd feel bad if I got more votes because of that.
Holy mother of text walls, it's DK and his much feared random questions of doom.
Or in a serious note.. heya. =P
And my vote goes to xdude. He has his faults (I call him lazydude :P) but will continue to be a great master of :light, no doubt in my mind.
While I agree he will always be a great master, you don't know if he will be the best of the best best of best from trials. (Please notice I did not boast myself or made any attacks to his voting community - this is just me, stating a random fact that you may think about or not. Please don't take this in the wrong way.)
Oh, and on a side note, I really like your questions, DK. :P
Question 1: Inspiration comes in many forms. Sometimes it can inspire you to act diffrently or think about something diffrently.
How has elements (in general) inspired you in the game? (such as chat/forums/ player interactions - avoid using "real life - out of game effects")
I lost the game!
Now on a serious note - Elements is a great game. Playing this game and acting, speaking and taking part of the huge community is a great experience - Something that I'm glad I'm being part of, as all people are nice, helpful and such.
In chat, Elements has proven to me not all chats are spam (Yes, it's possible, Batman!), and also made me type a little better. (Even if not a lot..)
Forums were also a great experience and go through what I said. The typing got also better and my posts actually have some kind of content into it.
Player Interactions are probably one of the best thing. Everybody is helpful, so newbie's aren't looked down or left out.
Question 2: Consider this scenario. You did become the next master of :light.
In this scenario,imagine a "known" player outlandishly criticizing you for being chosen as the master of :light.
This player after many years later, becomes a major threat and has not changed their view about you. They become a master of another element in a future war. (does not have to be the next upcoming war)
At the end of a difficult battle. This player defeats you fairly.
But the same outlandish and boasting criticism commences.
The community would like your response.
First of all, my general response after every game - Good Game.
I always say that unless I played in a suckish way. That's why against Ryan666, trials, I posted "I won't say Good Games.", as I played really badly that day.
Ahem, I'm going off topic.
First of all, let's go to the past, before he defeated me. I'd first like to ask him WHY does he not like me being the master of :light. Obviously, unless you post to me his/her answer, then I'll assume he(or she.) didn't. If you DO post what he(or she.) answers, I'll reformulate my answer to better suit what you will ask.
So, assuming he(or she.) did NOT answer me, I'd continue on.
Now when we meet and once he(or she.) defeats me, and he starts boasting, my two answers would be..
"Good games! I really liked them. I guess you're the champion now, =P. I liked that (insert deck here) deck. Maybe if I had used (insert deck here)... Oh well. They were nice games, I'm glad to have played you. Maybe someday we can Duel again? xD"
Not those exact words, but that's pretty much what I would say. Maybe a word less, two words more, but that'd be the foundation of everything.
If even after I said those words he'd keep boasting and telling me I suck, or criticizing my play-stile, decks or whatever in such a negative way, I'd make my answer again.
I wouldn't criticize back at him(or her.). It's much better to treat those things with a touch of maturity and going back to the base of the problem ("Why don't you agree with me being the master of :light?") and then start a decent, reasonable (And if possible, without any flaming) discussion over that until both of us are happy with the outcome. And if both of us AREN'T happy about the outcome and he (or she.) continues to boast and criticize even after all that talk, the only way to go would be to ignore and continue on with my life.
Question 3: Consider this scenario you are to travel back in time, for the sake of clarity; the trial/war list would show Dm1321, instead of xdude for that time period.
What would you do differently? What are some changes that you would do? Give 3 points, (you may use any aspect between the trials/war - such as bidding, tactics, and game play analysis)
First of all, I'd look for insight with others - even future opponents of war - for insight of what is good to have in a vault. I'd then put those answers together with my own "instinct" or strategic guesses (You can also read - Coin Toss choices) to make a vault that looks decent and well-built. Enemies and friends together, they're all a valuable source of information. If you want to be good, you can't do it all by yourself.
I'd also look wider for possible :light team players. Even if he/she never wins a tournament, I'll take into count activeness, PVP skill and deck-building.
Third and last, inside war, I'd check on other war topics (war archive) for Popular decks of each element and try to develop a counter to it. For example, what if against :light they used the same decks for both Wars? I'd then build a counter to it, and to maybe a second deck in just one deck to have better chances of winning. I wouldn't forget to take into account what decks did they build to beat :light or other teams, and try to develop a way to turn the table around. I'd also try to keep track of what would happen with everyone's vault, trying to keep focused and detailed.
I guess those were the three points, that even if not necessarily Good and awesome, are, in my point of view, decent.
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My vote will msot likely be going for xdude, for an extremely simple reason;
I've been on these forums since scaredgirl opened them from the previous orginial forum.
And since then, I saw xdude do a superb job, and I know he is capable of even more.
But we shall see!
My question to you challangers is the following (not you xdude):
By particpating in these challanges, you are proclaiming that you are capable of being a good master for light.
But I do think that good master, is one that LOVES his element, not one that joins out of the wish of just simply becoming a master.
What exactly do you love about light if at all? Is it a card? The element's philosophy? Or do you have some other motive?
And to you xdude (feel free to answer the above if you feel up to it):
I have to say, I see a good, nay, a great leader in you. So tell me, what do you think makes a you a good and responsible leader; but more then that, what could you do to improve and become the best master there could be?
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It is the whole concept. Light was the first element I picked when I tried Elements for the first time for a reason; decent runners-up element-wise (not concerning the game, but in general) would be Air and Water. Not really sure what draws me to Light. In World of Warcraft, my favorite class was Mage, but a very close second was Discipline Priest - the concept behind which is to ignore a large portion of damage, either dealt to you or to someone in your party. Discipline Priest could be said to be the analogue for the Light Elemental in this game. I always enjoyed healing most in various multiplayer games, too.
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I started as time, and I end up on gravity. I still like gravity, it's somewhat in a Tie with Light (Even though I like Light somewhat more.). These trials aren't just to see if I'll be a great master, but more of a test so I can know how much do I really know light and how can I improve.
... Wait, that's off topic.
I like Light because it's simple and awesome. From healing to attacking and damaging spells (Even if situational), light has it all. Except PC and CC. But I still love it.
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What exactly do you love about light if at all? Is it a card? The element's philosophy? Or do you have some other motive?
Well, since you were here ever since the Forums opened, I suppose you know how the first Masters were chosen. SG received applications and chose the best, just like how the Council does with other Forum positions now. Light and Air, if I remember correct had no applications. Back then, I was pretty much using an unupped SGbow (old one) for grinding FG's, and that's like all I had - I had no special feelings for any element. But I couldn't stop from wondering why NOBODY applied for Light. So I did just that - but, having only 50 posts, I was pretty sure I wouldn't get it. Next day - surprise - I get a new title above my Forum Profile! After that, my love for Light grew, as I lead Light to 2nd place in the Masters' Tourney and 4th in the War. And it shall never faint.
I have to say, I see a good, nay, a great leader in you. So tell me, what do you think makes a you a good and responsible leader; but more then that, what could you do to improve and become the best master there could be?
Well, I can't tell you for sure what made me how I am. But I can tell you that since last War, I have improved. I participated in some tourneys, where honestly I should've won some matches (semi finals or quarter finals) but lady luck did things like this to me:
- all 6 Graboids in the last 10 cards
- all Pillars in the first hand
- etc.
But mainly, I feel I might've finally made the step from your average player to... well, this is to be seen. What can I do to improve? Well, what everybody does. Participate in competitive PvP and profit. As about the organisation part, I feel I've done almost all there could be done. I spent a lot of time, and helped all my teammates with their tasks.
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I have to say that I'm not too proud of myself about the votes that I received, though I am still thankful to the people that voted for me. I will try my hardest in the final battle.
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I have to say that I'm not too proud of myself about the votes that I received, though I am still thankful to the people that voted for me. I will try my hardest in the final battle.
Votes mean nothing. Give me a good fight in the Final Battles, be awesome in War, go in some PvP events/Tourneys and you'll have at least double the votes next time.
Also, remember, the card disadvantage is not very big, and you have enough upps to successfully put up any deck based on upped cards.
Good luck!
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11. More then I expected, less then I wanted. I wasn't far off from Ryan. I feel bad for jippy. Johann got a lot of votes. But Xdude made everyone eat some dust.
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While I agree he will always be a great master, you don't know if he will be the best of the best best of best from trials. (Please notice I did not boast myself or made any attacks to his voting community - this is just me, stating a random fact that you may think about or not. Please don't take this in the wrong way.)
Oh? But I do know. That's what the voting period is about: you vote for the candidate you feel will make the best master of that element.
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I am very happy with my success in this Trial. Phase 1 provided much learning for me (and I hope for others as well), I performed well in Phase 2 despite taking only third place, and Phase 3 provided some thought-provoking questions and has also boosted my confidence. To take the most votes among such impressive challengers is no small honor - especially considering I was a long shot - and I thank everyone who voted for me for their support. Best of luck, Ryan and xdude (though I guess you can't BOTH have the best of luck, huh?), and great Trial to all. Very clean, very sportsmanlike.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some upped Light cards to sell... was holding on to some Towers in case I somehow made the Final Battle, but I have a rainbow deck I want to try out. :D
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Yes, we had a good run. Either way, I'd lose in the final battle.
So now.. Back to a never-ending trials (U see what I did thar?) of farming and upgrading light cards.