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Who is most worthy to be the next Master of Fire?

Zyardran
11 (19.3%)
Ryli
19 (33.3%)
ValerianFlame
6 (10.5%)
worldwideweb3
18 (31.6%)
None Worthy
3 (5.3%)

Total Members Voted: 41

Voting closed: May 02, 2017, 07:06:40 pm

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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263295#msg1263295
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2017, 02:26:03 am »
Well this phase is about opinion, there's no wrong votes. If Ian thinks no-one is worthy that's fair enough

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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263343#msg1263343
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2017, 09:47:31 am »
Can I just say i don't think ian was harsh at all. Far, far harsher questions have been placed in trials before, he just expressed an opinion, and all of his points are valid (except Ryli's activity which seems fine to me)
I am not saying I agree with all the points, but I can see how he reached his conclusions, and he certainly wasn't inflammatory with his post, seemed to be making his points in a relatively constructive manner.
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263344#msg1263344
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2017, 09:52:08 am »
As pointed out by Calindu and a few other people, I was wrong about Ryli's activity level, therefore my vote goes to her.

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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263401#msg1263401
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2017, 02:02:54 pm »
I appreciate your concerns of me changing the element i trial for every trial, but if i have done my job in one element, why shouldn't I go to another element and try and improve it, while also improving my pvp skills? Which element do you think fits me?

What job did you do for gravity? I don't see a war win for gravity yet...

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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263406#msg1263406
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2017, 04:22:38 pm »
Fire trials needs some hotness, so i'll just respond to a comment made on me by one of the triallists.

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I think fire would need a loyal master who can represent the element well, and we've seen what www did this time, ditching his gravy master title without question or second thought just so he could try for fire. Not very loyal if you ask me

Your former name was Discord and this is what you said in entropy trials last trials, where you said entropy is your fav. "Yes, yes it it :P. My second favourite element is tied between Darkness and Gravity, and no. I feel like my heart belongs more in entropy."
Then you generalled for light that war.
Now you are in fire.
Loyalty? hmm...
« Last Edit: April 30, 2017, 04:50:20 pm by worldwideweb3 »
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263414#msg1263414
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2017, 05:29:19 pm »
@Discord: You blame www3 for not being loyal to an element, yet when you joined the forum, your favorite element was darkness, then entropy, last war you were light general and now you trial for fire and your second favorite element is darkness. Compared to you, www3 won a war using fire, what makes you more loyal to fire compared to him?
@Discord: Last war, you led team light to the last place, except fire being a stronger element in war format, what else will help you not do the same with team fire(assuming you win trials and stay as general)

@www3: Had Root defended, would you still have trialed for fire?
« Last Edit: April 30, 2017, 05:31:26 pm by Calindu »
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263415#msg1263415
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2017, 05:48:26 pm »
@All;

If you don't win MoF, will you put fire as favorite in war auction?
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263420#msg1263420
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2017, 07:28:44 pm »
I see lots of enthusiasm on being the bestest team Fire in war ever. Make no mistake: the shards and upgrades do not benefit Fire as much as it did the top 4 last war. Last war a lot of Fire decks were made by me. Despite having hard counters built for Bone Wall, it remained a constant problem throughout war.

What makes you think that performing better than last war will be so easy? Knowing what went wrong is one thing. But is there an actual plan behind this confidence of doing better? The specific decks are yours to keep, I'm more interested if there's an actual plan, a "let's bid on someone to do it for me" or all just :fire hot air.

Specifically (in advance: no offense, I'm being honest here! It may not even change my vote, but one cannot plan war bans early enough!):

@worldwideweb:
I see solid reasons listed for worse performance in your answer to Aves'  question, but a rather recent win has proven it's certainly possible, so what's the plan in making Fire great again?


@Discord:
If the decisions made in those wars were questionable, then how would you call your decisions last war as general in team Light? What makes you think you would do so much better as general for Fire, if you have nothing to show for it? (most important here is convincing us of this, too!)

And when experience fails, it's planning that has to make up for it, in my opinion. Planning to "keep your team active" for example, although it's something that might work, I'm genuinely curious how the hell you're going to make that happen. Or how anyone could make that happen, for that matter, cause I'm a huge failure at it. Maybe a secret auction strategy?


@Ryli:
Since activity times sometimes seem to be a problem for you during events... how do you intend to effectively communicate with your team? Would you pick a team based on what times they were available to compensate for this?


@ValerianFlame:
You mention synergies from other elements, but no specific decks. Not to mention some other elements were used early on, then discarded upon loss (Gravity/Water). But regardless: what do the other elements (Life/Darkness/Entropy/Death/Time) have to offer, that would have been crucial in countering the decks Fire struggled against?

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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263488#msg1263488
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2017, 07:13:17 pm »
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Re: 11th Trials - Phase 3: Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=64512.msg1263494#msg1263494
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