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8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55049.msg1146438#msg1146438
« on: July 19, 2014, 11:59:53 am »
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Challengers:

Master Calindu of :entropy is defending.
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55049.msg1146449#msg1146449
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2014, 12:25:44 pm »
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One needs at least 89500 score to post DBH to Platinum, so here's proof of score requirement:
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Why say we need evidence of post requirement when the leftpane of our post is proof enough?
I've been around longer than 3 months since my first post was on 2013-05-29
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Entropy's Pandebonium
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A personal favorite, this is the version 10men posted in Initial Vault - Deck brainstorming for War 3. The concept of this deck is strong enough that the inefficient quanta base to attain being half Entropy doesn't remove it as a top tier deck (preferably the only Entropy cards are 6 pandes)

By the time I was assigned to run it, it'd been made faster with -2 entropy pends -bonewall +pand +poison +arsenic. This deck lacks a lot of damage, so Arsenic's ramp is vital. Enough that Arsenic is taken over that OP POS Discord, despite the deck's Entropy being over quanta'd. Discord is a support card in the end, but Arsenic wins games on its own

Good decks don't really care what their opponent does. The synergy between Pandebonium & Bone Wall goes beyond "CC feeds stacks". If your opponent has only a few creatures, Bone Wall alone has good value. If your opponent swarms, countering Bone Wall, then Pandemonium gains importance. Pandebonium's fears are healing, CC resistance, & being fire bolted to death

Sadly Bone Bolt laughs at Pandebonium because Lightning burns face & fractagon kills Miracle. Oh well, the Aether variant is better, what's new?
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Dark Panda
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People think unupped pande can only be used in creatureless decks; they're wrong. The key of this deck is that it's mindgaming the meta. Because mass CC is so rampant, immortals are likely. Immortals imply cheaping out on mass CC & running Lightning instead (especially since if you expect others to be running immaterial creatures, you want to have the cards you're forced to pack have an alternative use like burning your opponent directly)
The 5 pandes help for when your opponent decides to not fall into the immortal/ug meta that the rest of this deck considers. Also may be useful for how the UG deck decides to fill for creatures
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60 cards because 60 card decks are fun. The AI will play this incorrectly because the AI can't play anything correctly. That's why we make FGs have tons of stats, & then when it's found that that much stats make any good deck good even when played incorrectly, we make them do silly combos that nobody actually uses

The idea is to Entropy/Light stall, except that a lot of healing was traded for Luci/Hope combo. The nice thing is that this uses a lot of the cards that no FGs drop, diversifying the cardpool of facing FGs (Because seriously how many EEs do we need FGs to run?)

Anyways, obvious combos and obvious blunders aside, lore:
Antiaverage is a German scientist who secretly discovered antimatter before 1932. Unfortunately this isn't documented because some experiment made his psyche explode through time (destroying all his research in the process) so that what we're left with today is an HTML5-hipster-sloth adminstrating the forums while the rest of the genius got encoded into "The Abstract" of Elements as this FG in this post

As a miracle child, Antiaverage had hopes that he could genetically modify himself with luciferase. Unfortunately this didn't work; he was just some measly minor abomination of a child who whined too much causing great discord to his family who for some reason still offered him sanctuary despite the pandemonium he raised by genetically modifying his family farm's pet pigs into dragons
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55049.msg1146689#msg1146689
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2014, 02:46:24 pm »
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The Hunger Mini War

Special Rules
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Of course picked entropy. More than 50% in element, check. No more than 2 creatures, check. Of element mark, check. Not breaking any other rules, check. Now what about the deck itself? A rainbow SoSer, grabbow. Shard Of serendepity is one of my favourite cards, as it produces 3 cards and provides the randomness I so much adore. It is a fast deck, with CC, PC and of course entairtaining and fun to play!
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        ~       ~       ~       DBH       ~       ~       ~       



DBH, which stands for Discord Black Hole, is one of the most known and strong entropy based decks. Also known as Dischole, DBH combines perhaps the strongest entropy card, discord, and a gravity spell, the Black Hole. This strong denial deck was first introduced in war at Round 1, War #2, by team entropy and its general Zeru (DBH-Zeru) , after the Black Hole implementation by our developer Zanzarino in the 1.18 patch (Black Hole).

First edition:
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Since War #2 , DBH has been an asset for every entropy team in all of the next wars. The deck has been modified a lot since then, and a lot of versions have been played.

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As you can see, this deck can be modified according to what it might be up against.

Deckbuilding:

Inreplacable cards: and most of the times along with

In almost every version of DBH, those 3 cards with mark of gravity are the base of the deck. Denial, denial and moar denial.

Additional Cards: As mentioned above, DBH  is modified according to what deck it is up against. And most of the times it comes down to how much damage it will include.

Spells: , a cheap spell that can be very usefull against rushes.
, strong CC, if the denial is succesful, but the opponent manages to play a creature, especially a strong one,  antimatter can make that decision a nightmare. If this card is included, only a couple of copies will be added in the deck.
, a cheap CC card, that finds use in killing the few creatures that the oppponent managed to put in play.
, sometimes, for further denial, animate weapon can be of assistance in DBH. Allows more discords in play to mess with opponent's quanta.

Creatures: Most popular creatures in DBH are and . Abomination is a mid range in element hitter, and charger is very useful in case the opponent has a shield in play.

Additional creatures: , ,

Strategy: In almost every game, a quick discord can determine the outcome of the game, basically half the game is determined by a 1st or 2nd turn discord. As soon as the discord is out, the denial has already started. Discord messes with the opponent's quanta and Black Hole draws the rest of them for more denial and healing as well. In a mostly unupped meta, there will pass around ~4 rounds for the first creatures to come into play. As soon as creatures are in play and discord with black hole mess with the quanta pool of the opponent, there are little that can stop this wonderful deck.

Advantages: Against most duo or rainbow decks, DBH has the upper hand. Against mono decks there will be a 2-3 turn stall of the natural development of the deck, which at many games can be enough for the win.

Weaknesses: As any deck, DBH has several weaknesses. Fast PC, some rushes, quanta flooded monos and decks with sanctuaries can cause many problems in the strategy of the deck.

~All in all, DBH is one of the superstar decks of teams of entropy throughout war time and it will never stop messing with its opponents!


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« Last Edit: July 28, 2014, 08:57:37 pm by dark ripper »
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55049.msg1147873#msg1147873
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 09:26:31 am »
I'll defend for now, I was general last war for entropy and I participated in entropy trials 3 times so far.
My staying in phase 3 and finals will be decided after phase 2.
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55049.msg1147879#msg1147879
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 10:20:02 am »
go you, calin! *brofist
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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55049.msg1148025#msg1148025
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 07:18:56 am »
Things are getting interesting :D

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Re: 8th Trials - Challenger's Entrance https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55049.msg1150074#msg1150074
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2014, 02:31:35 am »
Apparently this is where to post forfeiting Trials
Having completed Phase 2, ending with the dumbest blunder in my life, I withdraw from Phase 2. G'luck dripper, you deserve to go against Cal more than me

Reposting this from yesterday, I took it down at the request of CCC as he wanted to make sure I wasn't making a hasty decision. I don't make hasty decisions; while I was emotional, emotions have little impact on my decision making. Furthermore it turns out my decks were mostly illegal because I have an awful attention to detail

 

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