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Title: Phase 4 - Final Battle ENTROPY (Trials 2)
Post by: Kael Hate on September 05, 2010, 11:01:14 am
Phase 4 - Final Battle

Please post Phase 4 results here. Thanks.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Zeru on September 13, 2010, 02:19:17 pm
Final Battle between me and Amilir should start at Sunday, 11:59 a.m. GMT

In other words. We have a showdown at noon (even though it's not noon where we live).
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Dragoon on September 19, 2010, 11:29:29 am
For those who are following the battle between Zeru and Amilir.  I'm looking forward to spectating the match.  Good luck to both of you!

ENTROPY
 :entropy
Master and ChallengersTotal ScoreBanned Cards
Zeru
29
Discord
Black Hole
Earthquake
Steal
Explosion
Phase Shield
Amilir
23
Nova
Shard of Gratitude
Black Hole
Earthquake
Quintessence
Poison
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Zeru on September 19, 2010, 12:13:51 pm
Sadly Amilir didn't appear on time that He selected. I am forced to delay the battle to another date.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Amilir on September 19, 2010, 02:08:37 pm
Gah.  I'm sorry, I slept right through our scheduled time.  I'm available;
1400GMT tomorrow for 2.5 hours,
1130GMT Tuesday for two hours, (I'd rather pick any other time)
1400GMT Wednesday for five hours,
not at all Thursday
Most of Friday and Saturday
Between 2300GMT and 300GMT any day.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: miniwally on September 19, 2010, 03:53:28 pm
Why ban discord and black hole? I think just banning discord would do a good enough job.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: nilsieboy on September 19, 2010, 04:05:25 pm
Why ban discord and black hole? I think just banning discord would do a good enough job.
i think because it can counter novas
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Kuroaitou on September 19, 2010, 04:43:51 pm
Why ban discord and black hole? I think just banning discord would do a good enough job.
Banning Discord means that the opponent can't ruin mono's or duos by scrambling quanta.

Banning Black Hole means that the opponent can't ruin -rainbows- by absorbing quanta used from Supernova.


Both are valid choices in an Entropy Trial in my honest opinion. ;)
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: miniwally on September 19, 2010, 06:35:29 pm
Why ban discord and black hole? I think just banning discord would do a good enough job.
Banning Discord means that the opponent can't ruin mono's or duos by scrambling quanta.

Banning Black Hole means that the opponent can't ruin -rainbows- by absorbing quanta used from Supernova.


Both are valid choices in an Entropy Trial in my honest opinion. ;)
I was just wondering, thanks for clearing it up, not to proficient at deck building.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Zeru on September 19, 2010, 07:26:42 pm
Gah.  I'm sorry, I slept right through our scheduled time.  I'm available;
1400GMT tomorrow for 2.5 hours,
1130GMT Tuesday for two hours, (I'd rather pick any other time)
1400GMT Wednesday for five hours,
not at all Thursday
Most of Friday and Saturday
Between 2300GMT and 300GMT any day.
I'll be waiting then.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Amilir on September 20, 2010, 03:54:58 pm
Might as well post the results:  Last match, 4-4.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh260/amilir/Elements/zeruentropybattle.png)
...I lost.  By three HP.  With 70% to win.

Great games, I messed up and paid the price.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Zeru on September 20, 2010, 04:26:35 pm
Round 1
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4vg 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6tu 6tu 6tu 6tu 6u5 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80d 80d 80d 80i 80i 80i 80i
I used this deck vs his poison stall. I was lucky to draw an early discord that completely mess up his quanta for a long time. However, I didn't draw a single aether tower. Which is weird. Finally after 8 boring rounds I managed to fractal my micro, and defeat him.

Round 2
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4vg 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 808 808 808 808 80d 80d 80d 80d 80d 80j 80j 80j 80j 80j 80jThis is a deck that is only effective when you know your opponent is going to use entropy. He used his poison stall again. His Sogs really saved him. I couldn't get past his healing. He ended up with 33 poison counters when I decked out.

?? = entropy pendulums and mind gates

Round 3 The annihilation deck
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500 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u7 6u7 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q8 7q8 7qb 7qd 7qd 7qd 7qd 7qd 7qdThis is a simple deck - counter to the deck-outer deck. It was also my wild card. The name comes from a simple fact "Entropy will reduce our Universe to nothing if given enough time". I decided that this kind of power would be enough. You want to play a dune scorpion + chaos power early to bit him. And then play antimatter, if he puts up a dissipation shield. He used some sort of Flying Pulverizer + Wings deck. I think his only entropy cards were supernovas and pendulums. He didn't stand a chance against my poison.

?? = dune scorpions

Round 4
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4vf 6tv 6tv 6u1 6u1 6u1 6u1 6u1 6u1 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 7t9 7t9 7tb 7td 7td 7td 7tf 7tf 7tfThis is a simple creature spam deck. He used a supernova rush. His deck was faster, but he mis-clicked once and I luckily won.

?? = entropy pendulums

Round 5
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500 500 500 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6tu 6tu 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6u8 6u8 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6veAnother simple deck. Amiir didn't change his deck here. And again, he make a mistake. He used 2 lightnings on my first dragon and made me play a nymph next turn. That nymph was making him reluctant to use lycantropy or evolution of his creatures. That gave me enough time to win.

?? = entropy pendulums

Round 6
I decided to use mirror deck again. He went with poison. However, his supernovas were removed from his deck. My only source of dmg were 2 nymphs that I managed to dualify (epic word). Lost it.

Round 7
It was time to try out my micro fractal again. He used nova rush, way faster and he drew an early pulverizer, so my phase shields were useless.

Round 8
The Dune Scorpion deck has another chance. Unluckily he had 6 SoGs in this deck. And many Pandemoniums. I couldn't get enough poison counters on him and died.

Round 9
I used the  :entropy  :darkness deck from before but decided to replace the Gargoyles with some steals. We both had a fast start, but graboids are better than werewolves. I decided to use a bluff. I stolen one of his towers. He though that I need  :entropy for antimatter so he played his fog shield. That was a crucial mistake of his. The match ended with me having 3 hp and a epic screenshot to show you. Congratulations Amilir. I really thought that you would win this.

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7921/masterofentropy.jpg)


Edit: Added info on the missing cards.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Dragoon on September 20, 2010, 06:43:49 pm
Looks like it was a great match.  Congratulations Zeru on keeping your title.  Seems like you played well.

Amilir, you almost had him.  Great job on making it so far.  I'm sure you had him sweating by the end.  Do you mind showing your decks?
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Corrum on September 20, 2010, 07:15:36 pm
Congrats Zeru, looks like some tough fought battles.
corrum
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: xdude on September 20, 2010, 07:39:02 pm
Gratz Zeru. Nice mindgames. Tough luck, Amilir, seems like he got you. Better luck next time.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: GG on September 20, 2010, 09:42:04 pm
gratz for retaining the title, zeru.

and consolations to amilir who lost by a misclick :(
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: ddevans96 on September 20, 2010, 09:43:07 pm
Congrats Zeru. That must have been a really close match at the end.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Zeru on September 20, 2010, 09:46:37 pm
Congrats Zeru. That must have been a really close match at the end.
It was extremely close. Just look at my screenshot.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: MrBlonde on September 21, 2010, 06:37:10 am
Congrats Zeru. That must have been a really close match at the end.
It was extremely close. Just look at my screenshot.
Wow.... basically that's the only combination of creature attacks (if 50% of them were to miss) you could have had and survived. Congrats Zeru and what a matchup.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: glennert on September 21, 2010, 09:05:20 am
damn, that's one epic fog shield steal! :D
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Dragoon on September 24, 2010, 12:43:09 pm
I've been asking everyone else, would you both like to explain your ban choices and how it affected your deck-building?
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Zeru on September 24, 2010, 01:55:30 pm
I've been asking everyone else, would you both like to explain your ban choices and how it affected your deck-building?
Discord, Quake, Black Hole - I decided that I will use decks that need a lot of quanta to work, I couldn't allow a single method of quanta denial.
Phase Shield - I intended not to use any kind of permanent control, so this card could defeat me.
Steal, Explosion - Eliminating easy ways of permanent control, I could use whatever permanent I desired.

My main plan was to trick Amilir into thinking that I would use heavy permanent decks, like Phase Shield stall. That would leave with with only one choice. Supernova rush with Pulverizer in it. However, in reality, he blocked black hole, thus making a counter got hard. I did a nice deck with heavy creature control and no permaments, which would crush supernova rush (see what I did here), but it would be destroyed by poison stall, so I ended up without a strategy.
In total I prepared 10 decks, but used only 5. Amilir built his decks between our duels. The randomness of his strategy is impressive :)
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Amilir on September 24, 2010, 06:23:42 pm
SoG/nova
These were their own trick.  Together they leave no casual defense against poison.  Dedicated healing or purify could still defend against it, but at the cost of being junk versus any of my other decks.  Also, if zeru didn't ban discord it would have been extra powerful.
EQ/BH
I did not want to get quanta screwed this way.  At all.
Poison/quintessence
The idea was to prevent alternate damage.  Zeru only had creature and weapon to hurt me with this way, so CC would handle most of his decks.  I did make a stupid mistake in forgetting about dune scorp.  I assumed it would take a trio with unstoppable to use correctly, totally forgetting about chaos power.  As it turned out, zeru didn't ban SoG so these bans were nearly useless for me.

1st game:  Poison stall vs. fractal abom.  I chose antimatter and had no novas this game.  Didn't stand a chance.
2nd game:  SoG poison stall vs. mindgate.  I never EVER thought of mindgate.  I got lucky though.  I drew almost all of my damage early, so he couldn't duplicate much.  I also went first, so he decked before me.  Pure luck.
3rd game:  I used my wildcard here.  A wings deck.  It didn't work.
4th game:  Creature rush vs. creature rush.  Mine was better, but I misclicked.  So painful.
5th game:  Creature rush vs. creature rush with purple nymphs.  Precog lied to me.  I didn't see purple nymphs or I'd have waited with the lightning and won.  Alternatively, a bit of luck with fog shield and I could have won anyway.  Oh well.
6th game:  I chose a poison stall.  This one worked beautifully against his mindgate deck.
7th game:  My creature rush smashed him here.
8th game:  Yet another poison stall.  It worked better than his dune scorp deck.
9th game:  Back to supernova rush vs. creature rush with steals.  Precog lied.  AGAIN.  I made a mistake and lost my fog shield to steal.  I still had better than even odds, but zeru was blessed with luck.

Decks: 
Poison stall with SoGs/antimatter/pandemonium/whatever.  This was my main deck.  Very useful.
Wings stall.  Didn't work.  Something of a bad idea in general, but it countered the decks I'd seen well.
Supernova rush with graboids.  My cards varied a lot here.  Graboids because they're resistant to CC.  I took towers instead of pendulums because I was worried about discord.  I shouldn't have been.  Lost three out of four games with this one, all due to my bad play.  Urrrgh.

In short, I made WAY too many mistakes here.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Dragoon on September 24, 2010, 07:58:43 pm
So exactly what happened with those Precogs then?  It show you one hand, but he had another?  Or it showed that he drew one card, but he really drew a different card?  That seems a little odd.  And I totally understand about being dissed by Lady Luck.  It sucks . . . a lot.
Title: Re: Phase 4 - Final Battle
Post by: Zeru on September 24, 2010, 09:27:14 pm
So exactly what happened with those Precogs then?  It show you one hand, but he had another?  Or it showed that he drew one card, but he really drew a different card?  That seems a little odd.  And I totally understand about being dissed by Lady Luck.  It sucks . . . a lot.
Nope, in both cases I drew the key card right after his scan.
blarg: