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Title: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: TheonlyrealBeef on February 10, 2011, 02:56:13 pm
Overall analysis:
Games were pretty close and luck didn't seem to like either of us. Kael's bans were probably what made him lose, Pestal countered too many of his decks.

Game 1 WIN:
Mono Darkness vs Phoenix Darkness

I found it ironic to beat Kael with Nymphs, Liquid Shadow is such a good counter to Phoenixes.
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Game 2 LOSS:
Unstable Control vs Quinted Nympho Liquid Antimatter

My control was useless, and coin toss made it impossible for me to win, since I would deck out first.
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Pestal vs EQ Pests

I had an awful start, and barely managed to recover: it was was an extremely close match, where Eclipse was the risky decision that sealed the deal. Had I played it one turn later I would've lost.
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Game 4 LOSS:
Entropy Control vs Voodoo Stall

I made some stupid mistakes here, after I comfortly stalled while we both had our dolls out I began to realize just how many :darkness Kael was building up, and realized he would Siphon for the kill. At that moment I panicked and Pandemoniumed his dolls, one was rewound and I could no longer deck Kael out.
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Vader Sader vs Darkness + control

I seemed to be winning quite easily from my perspective, I had a huge blessed animated Dagger out while Kael had a lot of Pests slowing me down. Near the end Kael put up a Dusk Mantle which put me to a halt. When I could finally play my first crusader and Endow the Dagger, I won. No screenshot since Dusk Mantle makes it impossible to tell when you'll win.
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Pestal vs Quinted Nympho Liquid Antimatter(?)

Kael never stood a chance with my early denial.
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Game 7 LOSS:
Entropy Control vs Mono Darkness

Kael thought it'd be funny to steal all of my pends, as a result, I never got enough Entropy to do something against his Dragon burst at the end.
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Pestal vs Voodoo Stall

Pestal was doing great so I figured I'd end this by using it again. Denial vs Stall is pretty much auto win.
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Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Kael Hate on February 10, 2011, 03:01:48 pm
Game 1
Phoenix Ha
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Game 2
Nympho
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Game 3
Quaker
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Game 4
Voodoo
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Game 5
Fire Rage
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Had 5 Rain of Fire in hand most of the Game and no Cremates :(

Game 6
Nympho
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MEGA BAD DRAW - 1 Pillar in 15 cards.

Game 7
Just Black
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Mega Bad Draw again 1 pillar in 16 cards, but decided to waste consecutive steals in a denial and it paid off.

Game 8
Voodoo Pull
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Fail Matchup, expected Anything but Pestal *sigh* bad read by me.



Congrats TorB
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: gavsword on February 10, 2011, 03:09:04 pm
Congratz TorB!
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: TheCrazyMango on February 10, 2011, 03:18:13 pm
Congrats torb.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Hyroen on February 10, 2011, 03:22:51 pm
Congratulations to TheonlyrealBeef the new Master of Darkness.

May your reign bring a renaissance to Darkness.

EDIT: Epic 1200th post! ^_^
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: RavingRabbid on February 10, 2011, 03:33:49 pm
It might be me, but Kael's 7th decks has one upgraded card too much.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Ryli on February 10, 2011, 03:39:15 pm
It might be me, but Kael's 7th decks has one upgraded card too much.
Well spotted. I don't think it matters too much now.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: nilsieboy on February 10, 2011, 03:44:31 pm
gratz beef, looked like some great fights,
all hail the (dutch) master of darkness!
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Mithcairion on February 10, 2011, 03:48:30 pm
The first of the masters has been crowned.  Congratulations Theonlyrealbeef, and well fought, Kael Hate.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: TheonlyrealBeef on February 10, 2011, 03:51:29 pm
Kael would've won that duel whether he had 24, 23 or 18 upgrades, and since the end result is the same, I don't really care. I had some urges myself to think of it as a number of unupgraded cards rather then a number of upgraded cards that should go into the deck (luckily, all those I used had 30 cards).

In case someone becomes curious about my unused decks, here goes:
Chaos Vamps
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Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: wizelsnarf on February 10, 2011, 04:00:07 pm
Congratulations to The Only Real Beef!

Condolences to Kael Hate.

Seems like it was a good final though and I appreciate the screen shots and recap TORB.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: SnoWeb on February 10, 2011, 04:08:04 pm
I have been watching the entire final and it was really a great showdown. In the first battle, the beef had the incredible intuition to play dark nymph and it was just the best defence possible against phoenixes. Maybe the Beef just wanted to show his two nymphs and his darkness mark of. If it's the case, it paid of.
Followed an alternate win/loss that the Beef broke with his second pestal. Those that played him in CL could have tell that it's his favourite deck. Final game was won once again by pestal. For those who want to take his tittle to the new Master of Darkness, remember to ban fractal ...

Congratulations Beef.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Kael Hate on February 10, 2011, 04:23:36 pm

After Firerage lost due to not drawing cremates, I lost my cool. It stops Pestal but I never wanted to look at it again.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: GG on February 10, 2011, 04:39:13 pm
Congratz torb, the new Master of Darkness!

<_< Pestals remind me of Trial #1... but good job anyway :D
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Dragoon on February 10, 2011, 05:16:52 pm
Congratz to ToRB.  Well fought battles on both sides.

Some interesting decks here.  One thing that always interests me in aggro deck design is the balance between speed versus total damage potential.  With aggros, we often think about trying to rush the kill before the stall deck can control the field.  So we sacrifice putting in more creatures to put in more Pillars so that the creatures we do draw can be dropped ASAP.  This makes the deck faster . . . if you can survive the control.  But if there's too much control, then your strength just diminishes the entire game.

So it's interesting how Kael in his deck 7 went for maximum output versus speed.  His QI is almost double digits (which lends itself to weak pillar draws, though maybe not quite as bad as he got) and he won't reach QE till turn 15, but in the end he was able to put out too much damage to control.  I suppose the Q control from all those Steals helped slow the CC.  Anyways, excuse my rambling thoughts . . .

In the end, I think ToRB is right, Kael lost because of not banning Fractal.  The usual Immo+RoF counter is not good in the upped environment due to 4HP pests and often 4HP vamps thanks to Eclipse.  You need to double Immo+RoF which is tough to do and often inconsistent.  This just reaffirms my dislike for Pestal.  That's just an evil deck.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Sodomir on February 10, 2011, 06:09:56 pm
Congrats TORB! Very nice decks, by both.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: PlayerOa on February 10, 2011, 06:40:34 pm
Congratulations TorB, the new Master of :darkness ^^
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: TheForbiddenOracle on February 10, 2011, 11:49:25 pm
The birth of a new master has been made! You are now in the "Dark Side" hehe
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: icecoldbro on February 11, 2011, 12:00:09 am
Well done ToRB, and again I see, pestal as one of the most powerful decks ever, and all its variations.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: TheIdioticIdiot on February 11, 2011, 01:32:51 am
I failed to give a ban speculation...
oh well, gratz to torb
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: plastiqe on February 11, 2011, 01:36:30 am
The (dusk) mantle has been passed from a great master to a well deserving challenger. 

Congratulations TheonlyrealBeef!
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: MrBlonde on February 11, 2011, 03:38:23 am
Apparently the Darkness gods like to rotate Masters. Bloodshadow to Miniwally to Kael to TORB. Congrats TORB.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: TheIdioticIdiot on February 11, 2011, 03:45:42 am
Apparently the Darkness gods like to rotate Masters. Bloodshadow to Miniwally to Kael to TORB. Congrats TORB.
it's darkness... where everyone betrays one another, leaders being switched constantly is to be expected...
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Ryli on February 11, 2011, 01:10:43 pm
Apparently the Darkness gods like to rotate Masters. Bloodshadow to Miniwally to Kael to TORB. Congrats TORB.
Well in that case,there's no way Torb will hang onto the title, and I'll tear it from his grasp next time.


jk. I suck with darkness :P
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Dm on February 11, 2011, 03:16:16 pm
That's one dark beef.
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: MyNameIsJoey on February 11, 2011, 09:30:42 pm
Apparently the Darkness gods like to rotate Masters. Bloodshadow to Miniwally to Kael to TORB. Congrats TORB.
Well in that case,there's no way Torb will hang onto the title, and I'll tear it from his grasp next time.


jk. I suck with darkness :P
Id like to see you try to stop me from taking the spot from torb myself :P
Title: Re: [Darkness Trials, Final Battle] TheonlyrealBeef 5 - 3 Kael Hate
Post by: Ryli on February 12, 2011, 01:09:59 am
Id like to see you try to stop me from taking the spot from torb myself :P
Darkness is one of my weakest elements. I wouldn't want to waste your time by joining the trials :)
blarg: