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[8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153809#msg1153809
« on: September 03, 2014, 09:16:05 am »
Wow. One of the, if not THE closest matchups I have ever played. Really GGs Rob!

Game 1: LOSS
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I had a very slow start here, only drew 1 Pend, and didn't draw a second one until it was already too late. Had no chance at all against his quick start.

Game 2: WIN
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I got a good start this time. He blocks me with BWs, but I get some poison on him. He only draws one bloodsucker.
I slowly kill him with poison before he gets any good poison on.

Game 3: LOSS
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I get a good start again, but he gets too. First turn Skull Shield kills my first 2 Recluses immediately, but I quickly get a Dragon out. His Nymphs multiplies too quickly though and I get killed one turn before I would have killed him...

Game 4: LOSS
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He got some creatures out, and I got some Wardens out. We both get quick Arse out but I didn't really draw much more damage than that. His arse killed me before I killed him.

Game 5: WIN
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Pretty fast and straight forward. I got a good and nice start while he didn't.

Game 6: WIN
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We both got a good start here, he with creatures and I with poison. He got me down low, but I started playing Dials and my poison killed him.

Game 7: LOSS
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I got a good start here too, but Miracle was too much for me and his Poison killed me...

Game 8: WIN
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Again I got early Wardens here, that together with Skull Shield stopped his Bloodsuckers from poisoning the Dolls. I killed them with plague (poisoned a doll here too) and they were eventually replaced with Nymphs, which was also delayed with Wardens. I used some low-ish SS (~20 :earth) all while staying on low HP. I had very low damage out (He stopped my Dragon with BW) and his Dagger stopped most of my poison. Eventually his BW ran out, and I could defeat him with my dragons. The game was a lot closer than I first thought it would be though.

Game 9: WIN
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Hands down the closest game of the whole match. We both got a fast start, his creatures dealt more damage than mine thouh. I played Pande when he had 4 creatures out, and I got the best pande ever. 1 Lightning, 1 RT, 1 Freeze, and 1 GPull on my own 7 hp Recluse. This delayed him enough for me to be able to catch up, but eventually it all went down to if rob would topdeck damage or not. He did, but only a Deadly Poison, not quite enough, which left me at 1(!!!) HP, and I could then win the game.
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Again, really GGs rob, you were a great opponent in every way. At no point during the match was it clear who was gonna win, it was all close til the very end.
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153817#msg1153817
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2014, 09:54:04 am »
The Death battle royal for Eighth Master of Death is concluded.  If you want to see this showdown replayed, please view the youtube videos in my summary belowsorry you are out of luck as Fippe and I lacked means to record it.

(other decks built and screenshots on final turns to come later)
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Spoiler for Ban lists:

Shard of Sacrifice (all game, by Fippe) - I expected as much so did not ban any shards myself as to assign those points elsewhere...

Dim Shield - OP in a limited meta like this, I think.
Bonewall - banning this one in element card makes Death stalling much harder as it really hampers or kills Pandebonium, Bonebolt, and the Air/Death or Fire/Death stalls.
EQ - PDials can be defeated simply with one or two early EQ's.  Also, nobody wants to see EQ (not so sure Fippe would have really fielded them anyways but I felt better not worrying about them while building decks).  Note: I ended up not being able to PDials with Fippe's clever bans.
Discord - I had a CP Discotek deck built prior to bans that was simply good and fun to use.  It was so good in testing I decided Disco had to go.  It would seem it wasn't "good enough" for me to use though, maybe I should have *hindsight*
Purify (odd) - Duh.  Death is weakened a LOT but this one card.  Now, not every deck has Purify opposing when it isn't banned, but as with EQ it is great peace-of-mind and helped with what I planned to feature... POISON.  Again, Fippe's bans hindered this idea.
Miracle - I just really hate opposing this card with :death.

In hindsight, perhaps a more varied and less "power-card-centric" ban list would have been more advantageous.  Bah!  *waves hand at hindsight in the moments after defeat*

Game 1 WIN
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Gracias RNG.  5 ttw with a super-duper draw (Nova-Nova and two Pend's with Arse, 'cluse, Spirit, Graboid, and Lightning quickly hitting the board) against Fippe's silly bad 1 quanta stall-draw.
rob77dp 1 - 0 Fippe94


Game 2 loss
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Not exactly sure what went "wrong" here for me.  Wings hit the table but I was counting on indirect damage anyhow.  Looking at the final-turn screenshot of mine it appears my Nymphs/Parasites were late to the table and quanta-flood early game made big differences.  The deck matchup probably favors Fippe here.
rob77dp 1 - 1 Fippe94


Game 3 WIN
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Superior instant-kill Skull Shield action on early Recluses allowed the damage-ramp to win it just in time!
rob77dp 2 - 1 Fippe94


Game 4 WIN
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I think the Nightmares and GotP's surprised Fippe here.  I had a good draw and won quite handily (in relation to the close nature of most all other games in this match).  Hindsight alert: I should have given this more opportunities.
rob77dp 3 - 1 Fippe94


Game 5 loss
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I tried to go rushy-rushy and drew a lot of :death quanta and three Frogs... did not end well for me this game!
rob77dp 3 - 2 Fippe94


Game 6 loss
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What happened here was a good ol' fashioned Chrysa-dials beatdown.
rob77dp 3 - 3 Fippe94


Game 7 WIN
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I perceive this to be a deck mis-match in my favor where equal average draws ended up a fair game-result.
rob77dp 4 - 3 Fippe94

Just. One. More. WIN.  C'mon, I am master of Death - I can win 1 of the next two games! ... ... ... >.<

Game 8 loss
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I expected to get crushed from the first couple turns of evidence.  Then OP-Vagger came out to play and Fippe's damage hid low.  However, I have three of four Bone Walls in the last 6 of my un-drawn deck when  I lose.  I suspect Fippe had another Stoneskin or two in-hand to make it VERY close even if I had drawn more wall.

As CCC indicated in post-match chat, this deck is better served in un-upped meta.  I blew it using it TWICE in 25-upgrade matches!! :'(
rob77dp 4 - 4 Fippe94


Game 9 loss
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What kind of defending Master would I be if I did not Mono-death-rush at least once?  Fippe had gone pure-death rush earlier so he is OK there. ;)

Mid-game (in 6-turn game I guess that was turn 4?) a Pande from Fippe unleashes the nail in my coffin, killing two Recluses freezing my Dragon and Grav-pulling a spare critter on Fippe's board.  All of this meant my SUPER fast early draw came down to a top-deck deciding turn.  I was four damage short of winning after Fippe's turn ends.  I drew a Deadly Poison leaving me ONE damage short of winning with Fippe guaranteed victory on his next turn.


End of match @ rob77dp 4 - 5 Fippe94



I would like to thank all Death Trials 8 participants for a VERY enjoyable time and experience.  The most fun actually playing PvP and deck-building I have had in quite a while!  That final was something exciting coming down to game 9 and being decided by 1 HP :o

Fippe94 - Always a worthy adversary and comrade (Wars 6 and 7).  I look forward to future encounters and partnerships!
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Community - *Caveat:  Barring any illegal decks or rob77dERp's above...* I introduce to you as Eight Master of Death...

Fippe94

Thanks one final time to CCCombobreaker and Zawadx for overseeing the Trials and thanks to ALL participants for an enjoyable ride.



Decks I built, tested, and tweaked but did not use (coming soon (TM)):

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Maybe should have used this - I shied away after Fippe opened with Sanct's then neglected to consider it later in match.

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I banned Dimensional Shield which is a very common target/mindgate-guess for using this deck.  Hence, I never felt compelled to bring it to this match.

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I had the feeling that the stalkers-n-demons deck was better suited in this match.

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Yeahhhhh, I never really even attempted building it.  The idea seemed cool but I never had an urge to build it, let alone test it and/or use it!

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I think the BW-included version is better so never played this one.  It turns out this environment is no place for EITHER deck!

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I think this would have been a good play somewhere... whatever the reason I never finished pre-building it and never thought to use it (would have speed-built it from memory as it is a Death deck I've done on many many occasions).

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Refer to prior PU-gons discussion/comments...

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The shard usage penalties in deck upgrades was HUGE so I decided the double-hit of shard-reduced-upgrades AND no Bone Wall made it nigh unplayable.

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I never really found a time that it felt right using this either... upgrade penalty and all.  (so STEEP was that -3 upgrades per shard!)

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Never fully developed or tweaked this.  It ended a trio with a mark in my file as "not ready for use" anyways.

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I built this under the idea of stall-break.  However, I never finished testing/tweaking so I glossed over during in-match deck selection.  Perhaps it had a place and I failed to fully consider options each game.  :P

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I have it categorized as a stall-break style, however looking at it I think that could only come from the Dune+Momo combo with Arse in weapon slot.  I did not finish testing/tweaking this either which led to no consideration for use.

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MAYBE I could have won either Game 5 and/or Game 9 using this.  It was tested, tweaked, and ready to use but I neglected to bring it to the match.  I did load it a couple times and then changed my mind before entering PvP Duel to search.  I do not recall which games it was loaded and then switched out.
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153819#msg1153819
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 10:23:58 am »
Well done Fippe! Congratulations!!! :) And also good work rob, that was another awesome final :)
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153825#msg1153825
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2014, 12:36:25 pm »
Gratz Flippe  :P
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153841#msg1153841
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2014, 02:14:55 pm »
Ah congrats fippe. Also well done Rob.

And some statics.  Your win means that 3/5 of the players from Sweden has become masters, more than half of them. Also means that 4/6 of the people from Scandinavia has become masters. Just an interesting pattern.
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153850#msg1153850
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2014, 02:44:14 pm »
Fippe was wise to ignore my troll deck offerings of Ball Catchers, Immovirus & Mummy/Hope (not that I don't spy some favorable matchups here)
Arsenic-beats-earth-stall result went exactly as warned (not to imply Fippe & I did any testing. He clearly didn't heed my warning running that stall twice)
Curious how fast Giant Frog duo was in testing. Feels as if mono with Flesh Recluse would be faster at first sight. Tsk tsk at naming a deck White Plague when it has no Plague
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153851#msg1153851
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Wow! Congratulations !

9-game match with a 1-hp final win, I don't think it can get any closer than that...  :o
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153863#msg1153863
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2014, 03:53:30 pm »
Another epic final. Congratz Fippe and Rob! :D
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153869#msg1153869
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2014, 04:53:54 pm »
Fippe was wise to ignore my troll deck offerings of Ball Catchers, Immovirus & Mummy/Hope (not that I don't spy some favorable matchups here)  I should have followed suit here and ignored my unfounded draw towards building AND THEN PLAYING (multiple times) a high-upgrade-meta Poisoned Dolls.

Arsenic-beats-earth-stall result went exactly as warned (not to imply Fippe & I did any testing. He clearly didn't heed my warning running that stall twice)

Curious how fast Giant Frog duo was in testing. Feels as if mono with Flesh Recluse would be faster at first sight. Well, in next-day review, you probably have a fair point here, serp.  It was plenty fast in testing and the ideas were that 5-ATK for 2-quanta > 6-ATK for 3-quanta as a ratio.  However, it seems best suited to maintaining near-mono-death speed in duo-required/needed environments/situations (which is not the case here).  Honestly, in testing it never had a draw as slow as experienced in the real-world use but that is the name of the game when duo-ing where a Mono-would suffice.

 Tsk tsk at naming a deck White Plague when it has no Plague   *caught in a lie*  Yep, the deck-name is simple carryover from a previous deck (last Trials?) I built that DID have plague + BW.  BW was not allowed in odd games so it came out along with Plague to add SoD/healing etc.  The name change was overlooked!




Wow! Congratulations !

9-game match with a 1-hp final win, I don't think it can get any closer than that...  :o
Wouldn't it be possible to have a dual-mastership to honor both players ?
Allowing due respect to your opinion being just that, I would oppose any attempt to make such a dual-Mastership suggestion a reality.  The Trials process has a Final Phase 4 setup almost solely to discern between "Top 2 players" within an element.  Fippe fairly and squarely (once TrO's give a seal of approval here) won - a slim margin is still a deciding margin. :)


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Another epic final. Congratz Fippe and Rob! :D
Ah congrats fippe. Also well done Rob.

And soem statics.  Your win means that 3/5 of the players from Sweden has become masters, more than half of them. Also means that 4/6 of the people from Scandinavia has become masters. Just an interesting pattern.
Well done Fippe! Congratulations!!! :) And also good work rob, that was another awesome final :)
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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1153879#msg1153879
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2014, 07:06:47 pm »
*double-post to bump*

I have added un-used decks and brief comments to my original reply post.

(Expect final-turn screenshots later today/tonight sometime with another post/bump!)


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Re: [8th Trial of Death] Fippe94 5-4 rob77dp https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55595.msg1154182#msg1154182
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2014, 08:26:41 pm »
Great final guys, Rob, i guess we'll go for the title together next trials ;) ?

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