TRIALS - Challenge a Master, Become a Master

[Scaredgirl]

Suggested Rule (attempt 2)

Elemental Title
Elemental Masters Determine the conditions they play on.
Before the end of Phase 1 the Master may Dictate up to 3 cards and/or Marks. The cards/marks must be from different elements. Those cards/marks may not be used during Phase 3 Battle or Phase 4 Final Battle by challengers when running Trials for his element.

When the challenger aproaches he may call out the Master and force him to not use 3 cards and/or marks just as the Master did. The Master may use any cards except those called on him. The Challenger must still battle without the 3 cards as dictated by the Master.
Does this work?
No need for measuring banned cards until the Challenger steps up. All Challengers are aware of what has been banned. Still easy to police.

That's pretty much what I suggested with the exception that your version gives a huge advantage to the challenger who picks the 3 cards after hearing what the Master picked. Only way to make it fair to to have both pick the cards at the same time, aka send PM's.

Here's a simplified version:

Both the Master and the challenger pick 3 non-Pillar/Tower cards which their opponents cannot use during the Final Battle. Banned cards are revealed 5 minutes before the battle starts.

Something like that could work I think.

Whatever the rules are, I'd like them to be set soon.  I just spent thousads of electrum upping cards for use against Antagon (should I make it that far), and now I may not be able to use them.

SG, I know there's a lot on your plate right now.  Would it be possible just to get an idea of when the final details of the War will be concluded and the first phase of the Trials will commence?

Trials will start soon. I've been really busy with work during these last few days so I haven't had time to think about it at all. Trial #2 was supposed to be run by someone else but unfortunately I forgot all about that. I'll try to start the Phase 1 tomorrow.

[Antagon]

Both the Master and the challenger pick 3 non-Pillar/Tower cards which their opponents cannot use during the Final Battle. Banned cards are revealed 5 minutes before the battle starts.

Something like that could work I think.

if i pick - for example - deflag, immolation and rage potion, its pretty impossible to make a fire deck without at least one of these cards, so 5mins seem a bit less time for me, maybe 3 days is better.

and i also think, the battle of the challengers also needs a restriction in a way, maybe there the master ban 3 cards for all the challengers, so noone has an advantage.

i still think that system is far far away from the reason, i want another format than all cards allowed, my intention was making the deckbuilding skill much more important, not the skill of choosing the right cards to ban. maybe every challenger and the master bring in ideas, and then there is a voting (only the challengers and the master), which 3 cards to ban.

[nilsieboy]

i don't like this idea...
so if i was in the trial of fire i could say i ban fire pillar,immolation and nova.

[kev]

Both the Master and the challenger pick 3 non-Pillar/Tower cards which their opponents cannot use during the Final Battle. Banned cards are revealed 5 minutes before the battle starts.

Something like that could work I think.

if i pick - for example - deflag, immolation and rage potion, its pretty impossible to make a fire deck without at least one of these cards, so 5mins seem a bit less time for me, maybe 3 days is better.

5 minutes?   ??? ??? ???

Hey MrBlonde, would you say it took more or less than five minutes to prepare the seven decks you used in the last Trials?  I grinded tens of thousands of electrum specifically for these Trials and I do not intend to up any cards until I have built and probably tested various decks.  A five minute notice period makes this event about speed building, and that's not what the goal should be.

I'm of the opinion that three cards is too many, btw.

@nilsieboy - pillars can't be banned.

[plastiqe]

It should just be 1 card from each element, and each of those cards is banned for the duration of the trials (challenger battles and master battles).  You'd end up with 12 banned cards and everyone would have the same list of banned cards.

How to pick the cards could be democratic.. master picks 3 cards and runs a poll for X days, winning card is banned... or it could just be masters choice.  Either way I think 1 card per element for everyone is preferable to players picking cards that their opponents can't use.

[TheOwner]

Suggested Rule (attempt 2)

Elemental Title
Elemental Masters Determine the conditions they play on.
Before the end of Phase 1 the Master may Dictate up to 3 cards and/or Marks. The cards/marks must be from different elements. Those cards/marks may not be used during Phase 3 Battle or Phase 4 Final Battle by challengers when running Trials for his element.

When the challenger aproaches he may call out the Master and force him to not use 3 cards and/or marks just as the Master did. The Master may use any cards except those called on him. The Challenger must still battle without the 3 cards as dictated by the Master.
Does this work?
No need for measuring banned cards until the Challenger steps up. All Challengers are aware of what has been banned. Still easy to police.

That's pretty much what I suggested with the exception that your version gives a huge advantage to the challenger who picks the 3 cards after hearing what the Master picked. Only way to make it fair to to have both pick the cards at the same time, aka send PM's.

Here's a simplified version:

Both the Master and the challenger pick 3 non-Pillar/Tower cards which their opponents cannot use during the Final Battle. Banned cards are revealed 5 minutes before the battle starts.

Something like that could work I think.

Whatever the rules are, I'd like them to be set soon.  I just spent thousads of electrum upping cards for use against Antagon (should I make it that far), and now I may not be able to use them.

SG, I know there's a lot on your plate right now.  Would it be possible just to get an idea of when the final details of the War will be concluded and the first phase of the Trials will commence?

Trials will start soon. I've been really busy with work during these last few days so I haven't had time to think about it at all. Trial #2 was supposed to be run by someone else but unfortunately I forgot all about that. I'll try to start the Phase 1 tomorrow.

Decks are revealed two days or a day before matches?  That sounds much better.

[MrBlonde]

Both the Master and the challenger pick 3 non-Pillar/Tower cards which their opponents cannot use during the Final Battle. Banned cards are revealed 5 minutes before the battle starts.

Something like that could work I think.

if i pick - for example - deflag, immolation and rage potion, its pretty impossible to make a fire deck without at least one of these cards, so 5mins seem a bit less time for me, maybe 3 days is better.

5 minutes?   ??? ??? ???

Hey MrBlonde, would you say it took more or less than five minutes to prepare the seven decks you used in the last Trials?  I grinded tens of thousands of electrum specifically for these Trials and I do not intend to up any cards until I have built and probably tested various decks.  A five minute notice period makes this event about speed building, and that's not what the goal should be.

I'm of the opinion that three cards is too many, btw.

Lol, no way did it take me less then 5 minutes to create my decks (i created 9 decks with 8 different marks). I tested them all in the trainer but with so many decks created i surely would have been able to field most of the decks. As you i also spent close to 80-90k electrum upgrading decks for this specific event.

I think 5 minutes before the matchup really isn't enough time. Although if this was the case i suppose i would have just have had to make even more decks.

I also think 3 cards are too many. If i pick 1 and the challenger picks 1 i think that would be more then enough.

Decks are revealed two days or a day before matches?  That sounds much better.

Whoa... decks are definitely not revealed until AFTER you duel. (if you mean the decks we create that is, if you mean just what cards we can use then ignore this comment).

[Hyroen]

Now that sign ups have ended, when does Phase 1 begin? I hate to get personal but I won't be available this weekend due to family plans.

[bojengles77]

Sorry if this has been asked, but what is the time frame for phase 3? I'm going to be away from the inernet for at least 5 days starting tomorrow and i'd like to not forfeit against Kuro, but if i must, there's nothing I can do about it (i'll be back august 20th at the earliest)

[Zeru]

Phase 3 has ended. When can we start Phase 4?

[Kael Hate]

Phase 3 has ended. When can we start Phase 4?

I'm working on the offical details now to put up in the next few hours

[RavingRabbid]

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