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Grandmaster Battle 4 - The Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67320.msg1293409#msg1293409
« on: August 28, 2019, 07:48:52 pm »
Welcome, Elementals, to the fourth Grandmaster Battle in Elements history!


TheonlyrealBeef: Why are we just reusing the old boring theme again and again?
MrMuffin: Yeah, those TrOs sure are lazy.
worldwideweb3 and rest chant: FIGHT!



1. Grandmaster Battle Game Structure
  • Competitors will play an epic best of 13.
  • Games may be played over the course of multiple days, if the players' schedules don't allow for all of them to be played at once.

3. Deckbuilding and General Rules
  • Each deck must contain a minimum of 50% in-Element cards, rounded up. This amount includes pillars and pendulums.
  • "Other" cards are considered off-Element for both players.
  • Each off element can only be used twice (Mr Muffin can use :fire in only two of his decks, etc)
  • A player may only use 2 cards (as many copies of those two cards) from his opponent's elements. (Mr Muffin can only use 2 darkness cards. For example, he used 6 dusk mantle and 5 Devourer game 1. He cannot then use a different darkness card in another game. He can however, use dusk mantle or devourer again in one of his other decks).
  • Mark cards are treated as pillars of the Element whose quanta they produce for all deckbuilding rules.
  • Upgrades: 3*X where X is the game you are on.
  • Maximum of one mono deck can be used during the match.
  • Games 1-4: no shards allowed. Games 5-8: Maximum of 2 nymphs.
  • A player may choose to replay only one game at the end of that game. For example, if Mr Muffin loses game 2, he can replay game 2 straight after but not wait till the end of game 3 (or so), to replay game 2.

Spoiler for 50% rule:
Deck SizeMinimum Cards From In-Element
30
15
31-32
16
33-34
17
35-36
18
37-38
19
39-40
20
41-42
21
43-44
22
45-46
23
47-48
24
49-50
25
51-52
26
53-54
27
55-56
28
57-58
29
59-60
30

4. Match Rules
  • In the event of a disconnect, both competitors should play out their game versus the AI on both sides.
    • If the same player wins on both sides, they are considered the winner of that game.
    • If the two "games" result in wins for different players, the game is voided, and players may not switch or modify their decks before the next game.
    • You also have the option of claiming, with screenshots as evidence, that you would have won if the AI had not taken over. First talk to your opponent, then if necessary, the Trial Overseer.
  • If the desynch eror symbol appears or both players, replay the game with same deck and mark unless there was a clear winner at that point. If it appears for only one player, take screenshots every turn to explain strange stuff.
  • If it is obvious that a game will never end (e.g. if both players have zero net damage output (where they can both heal off the damage done each turn easily) and will never deck out, and both players have no means of breaking the stalemate), that game is voided, and players may switch or modify their decks prior to the next game.
  • In the event that an illegal deck is used in any game (whether that game was voided at the time of the match or not) the user of the illegal deck will be given a loss for that game, and their opponent a win.
    • A loss due to an illegal deck will be considered to have used up the off element. For example, an illegal deck is played G1 where mr muffin used :fire and TorB used :water as off elements. These off element uses count and the players only have one more use of these elements.
  • Losing access to the Elements the Game during a game (refreshing the tab, clicking on ad that isn't a popup type, closing the tab/window/browser/computer, power loss for any reason) counts as a disconnect for the player. His opponent should have the CPU take over, and they should play vs the CPU. If the opponent wins, the game is a loss for the person who lost connection. If the CPU wins, the game should be replayed with same deck and mark, unless the player who lost connection can prove that they'd win despite any series of draws from the opponent..


5. Post-Battle
  • Once the match has been concluded, the winner will post their results in a new thread in the Trials Final Battle sub-forum with the subject:
         [Grandmaster Battle] Player_A 5 - 3 Player_B
         with the names and scores updated to reflect the outcome of the match.
  • Both players will post the decks they used in the Grandmaster Battle.
    • They are also encouraged to write a short description of the battle, and include screenshots/videos of the games.
  • Any posts made in this thread before both players have posted their decks will be removed.

Q&A
Does not look like the same theme to me, with one match instead of three phases :silly:

At least this means we should be able to complete this soon, before trials! Should probably mention a time somewhere and record something.

While building decks, I noticed a few things that could use clarification: is there any minimum number of off-element cards per element required, or is using up the element the only detriminent to using a duo with only one off-element card? Does using pillars/pendulums/mark cards from an element count as using that element? And lastly, if using Other cards is considered off-element, does that mean it is also restricted to be used twice per match?

Haven't set a time yet, just see what time suits you both. Try get it done within 2 weeks max.
Minimum of 4 off element cards per element required unless it's a mono. This does not include pillars/pendulums/mark cards. Other cards can be used freely and don't count towards using other. It'll simply count as your mono, or a duo if it uses another element. Note that you cannot use less than 4 off element cards at all as that is illegal. Off element is different to "other" cards.

« Last Edit: September 30, 2019, 11:40:06 pm by serprex »
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Re: Grandmaster Battle 4 - The Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67320.msg1293420#msg1293420
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2019, 08:25:17 am »
Does not look like the same theme to me, with one match instead of three phases :silly:

At least this means we should be able to complete this soon, before trials! Should probably mention a time somewhere and record something.

While building decks, I noticed a few things that could use clarification: is there any minimum number of off-element cards per element required, or is using up the element the only detriminent to using a duo with only one off-element card? Does using pillars/pendulums/mark cards from an element count as using that element? And lastly, if using Other cards is considered off-element, does that mean it is also restricted to be used twice per match?
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Re: Grandmaster Battle 4 - The Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67320.msg1293436#msg1293436
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2019, 09:39:02 am »
Does not look like the same theme to me, with one match instead of three phases :silly:

At least this means we should be able to complete this soon, before trials! Should probably mention a time somewhere and record something.

While building decks, I noticed a few things that could use clarification: is there any minimum number of off-element cards per element required, or is using up the element the only detriminent to using a duo with only one off-element card? Does using pillars/pendulums/mark cards from an element count as using that element? And lastly, if using Other cards is considered off-element, does that mean it is also restricted to be used twice per match?

Haven't set a time yet, just see what time suits you both. Try get it done within 2 weeks max.
Minimum of 4 off element cards per element required unless it's a mono. This does not include pillars/pendulums/mark cards. Other cards can be used freely and don't count towards using other. It'll simply count as your mono, or a duo if it uses another element. Note that you cannot use less than 4 off element cards at all as that is illegal. Off element is different to "other" cards.
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Re: Grandmaster Battle 4 - The Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67320.msg1293495#msg1293495
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2019, 07:12:55 am »
Haven't set a time yet, just see what time suits you both. Try get it done within 2 weeks max.
Ok, currently planned for: some time ago, I will personally not stream.

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Re: Grandmaster Battle 4 - The Rules https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67320.msg1293496#msg1293496
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2019, 07:50:10 am »
If players wish to send me decks to check for legality, feel free to.
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