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Which of the following do you think is the best way to integrate the community vote:

Between P2 and P4.  Vote affects who finalists are (current)
9 (42.9%)
Between P2 and P4.  Finalist determined before vote, vote just gives P4 upgrades.
2 (9.5%)
Between P1 and P2.  Eliminates vote-to-win and vote by P2 record.
5 (23.8%)
Eliminate the vote entirely.
4 (19%)
Some other theory.  (see comments).
1 (4.8%)

Total Members Voted: 21

Voting closed: October 05, 2014, 09:37:22 pm

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8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1146228#msg1146228
« on: July 18, 2014, 03:55:34 pm »
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1148111#msg1148111
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 05:35:50 pm »
Suggestion:  Taking down the join-trials message from the Forum homepage flashing marquee since sign-up Phase 1 is now complete.
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1148112#msg1148112
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 05:36:33 pm »
Suggestion:  Taking down the join-trials message from the Forum homepage flashing marquee since sign-up Phase 1 is now complete.
Its not. 1 more day with less unlocks for Phase 2. Addendum 1.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2014, 05:38:05 pm by dark ripper »
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1148113#msg1148113
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 05:41:35 pm »
Suggestion:  Taking down the join-trials message from the Forum homepage flashing marquee since sign-up Phase 1 is now complete.
Its not. 1 more day with less unlocks for Phase 2. Addendum 1.

No elements have less than 2 competitors, so the whole addendum is void now. No extra time.

Taking down the message requires anti or Higs to do it, so it should take one/two days.
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1148114#msg1148114
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 05:43:12 pm »
Suggestion:  Taking down the join-trials message from the Forum homepage flashing marquee since sign-up Phase 1 is now complete.
Its not. 1 more day with less unlocks for Phase 2. Addendum 1.

No elements have less than 2 competitors, so the whole addendum is void now. No extra time.
My reading abilities suck. Thanks for clearing this out andre. So yeah, take down the join trials message xD
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1148115#msg1148115
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 05:43:23 pm »
Suggestion:  Taking down the join-trials message from the Forum homepage flashing marquee since sign-up Phase 1 is now complete.

That's under Higs' jurisdiction.
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1149316#msg1149316
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2014, 01:48:27 pm »
It's unfair to award points for losing 2-3 while matchs end at 3-0. Matchs should continue until 4-0 to verify result wouldn't become 3-2

edit: Unsure if unfair is the correct word since everyone has the same rules, but my point stands with whichever word I'm failing to conjure. Inconsistent? Short sighted? Random? Unfortunate? A shame? Annoying? Damning? Incomplete?
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1149318#msg1149318
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2014, 02:02:02 pm »
It's considered more of an accomplishment to win the first three games without letting the opponent win any. In other events, rules depending on the final outcome of the match being 3-0 or 3-1 also didn't continue after someone has three wins, e.g. War 7 Round 1.

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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1149320#msg1149320
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2014, 02:36:45 pm »
Well, I suggest important rules like the elements' usage per matches should not be just bold but also colored with a strong color like orange or yellow. That way, there would be less noobs like me who missed a few important deckbuilding rules of the event. :P
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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1149323#msg1149323
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2014, 03:52:58 pm »
It's unfair to award points for losing 2-3 while matchs end at 3-0. Matchs should continue until 4-0 to verify result wouldn't become 3-2

edit: Unsure if unfair is the correct word since everyone has the same rules, but my point stands with whichever word I'm failing to conjure. Inconsistent? Short sighted? Random? Unfortunate? A shame? Annoying? Damning? Incomplete?

What Cu said.

Well, I suggest important rules like the elements' usage per matches should not be just bold but also colored with a strong color like orange or yellow. That way, there would be less noobs like me who missed a few important deckbuilding rules of the event. :P

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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1149328#msg1149328
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2014, 05:00:38 pm »
I would suggest to make more restrictive meta-altering deck-building rules, e.g. what Oni did previous Trials was fun with that graph-walking (even though we complained about the complexity, but at the end it was really interesting). The current rules allow pretty much open-meta, especially for the master's battles, where we do not even have bans. The even-game shard is a good rule in this sense (a step in the right direction), but it is not enough IMHO. More tweaks like that would be nice.

Possible rule ideas to include:
- you are only allowed to use any in-element card maximum two games per match (to avoid over-using an OP card)
- you are allowed to use a total of 10 copies of each in-element card (except for pillars/pends) per match -- an alternative way to achieve the above

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Re: 8th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55023.msg1149964#msg1149964
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2014, 01:23:15 pm »
I would suggest putting a time limit between matches.
I agree to postponing and continuing another day if needed but taking an hour between 2 matches is just ridiculous.
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