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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1079391#msg1079391
« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2013, 05:53:49 pm »
If you want extra experience - just set up practice matches with other competitors, if you're worried about giving away your secrets make it from elements which you will not fight. Or join a league and spam games.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1079559#msg1079559
« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2013, 06:43:48 am »
The experience gained from single matches is mostly meaningless. It's the accumulation of small amounts that makes true experience.

It is still experience nonetheless. Why make it work this way while those extra matches can be played by totally neutral people?
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1079560#msg1079560
« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2013, 07:13:47 am »
The experience gained from single matches is mostly meaningless. It's the accumulation of small amounts that makes true experience.

It is still experience nonetheless. Why make it work this way while those extra matches can be played by totally neutral people?

There is never anyone totally neutral.

I don't see Cheesy or Oa truly gaining anything from playing 1 extra match so I don't see any reason to change it. If I change it based on 'experience' then I should have more strict rules on who can join depending on experience.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1079790#msg1079790
« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2013, 07:25:21 am »
The experience gained from single matches is mostly meaningless. It's the accumulation of small amounts that makes true experience.

It is still experience nonetheless. Why make it work this way while those extra matches can be played by totally neutral people?

There is never anyone totally neutral.

I don't see Cheesy or Oa truly gaining anything from playing 1 extra match so I don't see any reason to change it. If I change it based on 'experience' then I should have more strict rules on who can join depending on experience.

I suggested you could play the matches. And please this is most obviously a more neutral choice. Why are you avoiding this suggestion? I want an answer.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1079792#msg1079792
« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2013, 07:26:47 am »
Would I count as neutral?

(I'm essentially doing the same thing in the Masters' Tournament)

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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1079796#msg1079796
« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2013, 07:46:02 am »
I suggested you could play the matches. And please this is most obviously a more neutral choice. Why are you avoiding this suggestion? I want an answer.

How am I avoiding the suggestion? I've answered multiple times. The experience argument isn't valid enough to merit a change. The neutrality argument isn't valid enough to merit a change. Them together isn't valid enough to merit a change.

The matches will not be changed.


More neutral than a challenger taking the 8th spot, less neutral than if was defending.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1080008#msg1080008
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2013, 04:25:54 am »
There should be a specific time before the end of dueling phase that decks must be posted by (for challengers). As it stands now an illegal deck can only be discovered after the fact - it can very often turn a 3-1 into a 2-2 that needs a replay (either disrupting the event by making everyone wait or inappropriately awarding a win). If for some reason we won't require them after the match, at least set a time (say 3 days before phase end?) or make people PM.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1080009#msg1080009
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2013, 04:32:45 am »
Please make people PM.

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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1081625#msg1081625
« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2013, 02:45:30 pm »
Even though i'm not challenger :
I find awarding one point if you lose 3-2 a GREAT thing.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1081628#msg1081628
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Even though i'm not challenger :
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1082630#msg1082630
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2013, 08:41:27 pm »
Master's tourney was quite a bit funnier than last time this time round.

Random suggestion with the inactivity problems (cal getting into finals with a single match, for example) : have a personn outside trials (possibly trialmaster) fight these.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1082639#msg1082639
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2013, 09:04:40 pm »
Oni refused every occasion in trials where we asked for someone neutral to play, pretty much.
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