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7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076300#msg1076300
« on: June 01, 2013, 08:55:25 pm »
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076329#msg1076329
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 09:34:12 pm »
I want your head on a pike with onions. Can i haz?
I like the loyalty bonus.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076350#msg1076350
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2013, 09:49:37 pm »
1) Stop hatin' on Time.  (War Bonus)

2) Not a fan of the lack of Proving of Worthiness - granted it was more Proving of Activity/Effort than anything else, but I think that it's necessary to prove that you're committed.  I don't want an inactive/uncommitted gen. in war, or even just as master.

3) War bonus for soldiers is a good idea.

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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076362#msg1076362
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2013, 10:10:08 pm »
2) Not a fan of the lack of Proving of Worthiness - granted it was more Proving of Activity/Effort than anything else, but I think that it's necessary to prove that you're committed.  I don't want an inactive/uncommitted gen. in war, or even just as master.
Because that worked previous trials.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076368#msg1076368
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2013, 10:16:11 pm »
2) Not a fan of the lack of Proving of Worthiness - granted it was more Proving of Activity/Effort than anything else, but I think that it's necessary to prove that you're committed.  I don't want an inactive/uncommitted gen. in war, or even just as master.
Because that worked previous trials.

Sorry Jenky

Also, I feel like there should be a loyalty bonus for being on the war team, not necessarily for placing well (for soldiers), masters should be judged on placement.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076474#msg1076474
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 05:31:52 am »
I agree about the lack of Proving worthiness, maybe if it was just the deckbuilding part people would be more open to it?
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076479#msg1076479
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 06:28:03 am »
2) Not a fan of the lack of Proving of Worthiness - granted it was more Proving of Activity/Effort than anything else, but I think that it's necessary to prove that you're committed.  I don't want an inactive/uncommitted gen. in war, or even just as master.
Because that worked previous trials.

Sorry Jenky

Also, I feel like there should be a loyalty bonus for being on the war team, not necessarily for placing well (for soldiers), masters should be judged on placement.

What Laxa suggested, I second (soldier bonuses tending to be smaller than for General'ing but not based on placement).
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076490#msg1076490
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 08:43:29 am »
Losing or winning in war depends on the team, not just the General. They should be treated similarly.

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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076563#msg1076563
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2013, 02:44:45 pm »
Losing or winning in war depends on the team, not just the General. They should be treated similarly.

Meh - your angle on it, Avenger, is easy for a high-placing (in your case, winning - congrats!) soldier to have and Laxa and I's could be deemed easy for a low-placing soldier to have.  I think you would agree that some rounds are all about the random matchups and that one bad round (not necessarily connecting that bad rounds always stem from matchups).

Are you conveying that losing or winning in war OVERALL or an individuals record in matches depends on the team?
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076768#msg1076768
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 09:12:26 am »
Note: I am reading this thread.

Replies will come either after the phase ends or after trials end. Maybe both.
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076836#msg1076836
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I don't think loyalty should be limited to 3, i.e. give kuro his 6 points already!
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Re: 7th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49610.msg1076911#msg1076911
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 05:48:50 pm »
Losing or winning in war depends on the team, not just the General. They should be treated similarly.

Meh - your angle on it, Avenger, is easy for a high-placing (in your case, winning - congrats!) soldier to have and Laxa and I's could be deemed easy for a low-placing soldier to have.  I think you would agree that some rounds are all about the random matchups and that one bad round (not necessarily connecting that bad rounds always stem from matchups).

Are you conveying that losing or winning in war OVERALL or an individuals record in matches depends on the team?

I'm just saying generals and soldiers should be treated equally when looking at past war success or failure. Counting it or not counting it is irrelevant to me as long as they are treated equally.
And i'm not participating in trials, so my high placing is also irrelevant. I'm interested in who'll be general in ALL elements, so that's why i say anything.

 

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