7th Trials - Phase 2 - Challengers' Battles

[Onizuka]

Phase 2: Challenger Battles

Spoiler for Very important image, if you don't look at it you deserve to lose:

Paint credit:Me
Original image seen here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20705.msg263046.html#msg263046

Spoiler for Also a very important image made by rob77dp. Clear up your troubles here!:

Rules that apply to both in element and off element matches:

• Matches are best of 5
• After every game, you must tell your opponent what elements you used in the previous game.
• Decks can be changed after each game. If there is a desync, the decks must stay the same. If it is obvious that a game will never end (e.g. if both players have zero net damage output -- where they can both heal off the damage done each turn easily -- and will never deck out, and both players have no means of breaking the stalemate), the result of that game is nulled and voided -- there is no winner and no loser for that game. Both players have the option of switching decks for the next game in the match. The elements used will not be considered used and no new elements can be acquired. Losing access to the game during a match (refreshing the tab, clicking on ad that isn't a popup type, closing the tab/window/browser/computer, power outage, pet elephant stepping on your computer ect) counts as a loss (a win for your opponent). You only lose 1 game through this, not the match, unless it happens more than once.
• Any deck size.
• Your mark can only be from an element you can currently use
• Mark cards are considered in element in regards to the quanta they give (IE: Water mark is a water card)
  
• Up to 20% rounded down upgraded cards.
• Up to 9 off element cards per element (quanta included)
• Decks must be at least 50% in element (quanta included)
• Banned cards are banned for both un and upgraded
• Other cards are considered in element
• Regarding the image:
  
  • You start off based on what element you are trialing for (IE if you are trialing for fire you start where fire is. The elements you can use initially are Air/Light/Earth/Gravity.)
  • If you use an element, you cannot use it again (excluding the element you are trialing for). If you use a card from an element, you use that element. If you use time mark but no time cards, time mark/cards can be used next game.
  • Your place on the image resets each match (IE for fire for every match you will start with air/light/earth/gravity).
  • After every game, you may push past an element that you used during the match. If you used more than one element, you may only push forward on one. Later on during the match, you can push through elements that you have used but haven't pushed through. If you used a mono, you may not push forward through any unless you are unable to use anything but a mono next round. Examples:
  • If you are trialing for fire, and for the first game you use earth and light. Next game you can either have available Air/Gravity/Life/Water (Pushing through earth) or Air/Gravity/Darkness (Pushing through light)/.
  • If you are trialing for fire, and you use earth, air, light, and gravity all in your first game, you may push through one of them.
  
  

In element matches

• Shards are limited to 4 per deck, in a maximum of two games.
• Regarding bans: Everyone sends in 1-2 card(s) from each element in a forum PM. Any card that gets two+ votes gets banned for all players, except for shards. Shards only require one person to ban it. If you do not send in a list a list will be randomized by me. Any missing cards will be randomized.
• Pillars/Pends may not be banned. Putting down a pillar/pend will result in a random ban.
• If an alchemy card/nymph gets banned, the corresponding nymph/alchemy card is also banned.
• If there are 4 challengers, everyone sends in one card per element.
• If there are 3 challengers, everyone sends in one card per element. Higs has provided a ban list for fire, since they have three trialers.
• If there are 2 challengers, each person sends in two cards per element. These cards may not be the same (IE: You cannot send in discord/discord for entropy). If you do, both are randomized.

Off Element Battles

• No shards.
• Before every match you and your opponent chat message someone not in either one of your elements, nor facing it 3 cards. These cards are banned for both you and your opponent. You may only ban 1 card from your opponent's element, and it may not be a creature.

For bans:
Ban sending is over.

For matches:
Match time is over


Note: You can do your off element match(s) during the ban time if you wish.

Spoiler for Learn yo bans!:

Entropy:
Shard of Serendipity, Shard of Sacrifice, Soul Catcher, Shard of Focus, Phoenix, Shard of Patience, Shard of Divinity, Shard of Freedom, Precognition, Golden Nymph


Death:
Discord, Shard of Sacrifice, Shard of Focus, Earthquake, Empathic Bond, Fire Bolt, Shard of Bravery, Shard of Patience, Purify, Miracle, Shard of Freedom, Fog Shield, Shard of Readiness, Shard of Void, Dimension Shield, Shard of Wisdom


Gravity:
Shard of Serendipity, Shard of Sacrifice, Shard of Focus, Shard of Integrity, Shard of Gratitude, Shard of Bravery, Shard of Patience, Shard of Divinity, Shard of Freedom, Shard of Readiness, Shard of Void, Shard of Wisdom


Earth:
Discord, Shard of Sacrifice, Momentum, Shard of Focus, Adrenaline, Green Nymph, Trident, Miracle, Fog Shield, Reverse Time, Lightning


Life:
Discord, Shard of Sacrifice, Shard of Focus, Titanium Shield, Adrenaline, Green Nymph, Thorn Carapace, Fire Shield, Ice Shield, Shard of Patience, Wings, Shard of Freedom, Reverse Time, Shard of Readiness, Devourer, Fractal, Dimension Shield


Fire:
Antimatter, Purple Nymph, Bone Wall, Shard of Focus, Earthquake, Shard of Gratitude, Shard of Bravery, Arctic Squid, Sanctuary, Reverse Time, Lightning


Water:
Antimatter, Purple Nymph, Shard of Gratitude, Shard of Bravery, Devonian Dragon


Light:
Shard of Sacrifice, Shard of Focus, Shard of Gratitude, Fire Bolt, Nymph Tears, Nymph Queen, Miracle, Shard of Divinity, Unstable Gas, Blue Nymph, Nightmare, Dimension Shield


Air:
Discord, Shard of Sacrifice, Shard of Focus, Catapult, Earthquake, Graboid, Adrenaline, Green Nymph, Shard of Bravery, Nymph's Tears, Nymph Queen, Miracle, Shard of Freedom, Reverse Time, Steal, Dimension Shield


Time:
Discord, Shard of Sacrifice, Shard of Focus, Earthquake, Shard of Gratitude, Deflagration, Arctic Squid, Shard of Patience, Sanctuary, Shockwave, Steal, Dimension Shield


Darkness:
Antimatter, Purple Nymph, Shard of Sacrifice, Shard of Focus, Rage Potion, Red Nymph, Shard of Patience, Holy Light, Shard of Freedom, Reverse Time

[Onizuka]

[TribalTrouble]

Whats with the stars next to the users?

[Dm]

Why make it simple when we can make it hard?

*Skips all rules, looks at match-ups.*

Spoiler for Relevant, me in these trials:

[Zso_Zso]

That image is a bit confuzling ...

• Is there any difference between the double-arrow connection and single line connection ?
• What do the crossing lines mean ? Simple junction ?
• In your example fire passes through earth to water. Can it also pass to Life instead of Water (using the junction) ?
• Does the line from light to the middle of the circle represents a connection to the other side of the circle ?
• The inner circle seems to have 4 connected elements, while the other layers only have 3, isn't that imbalanced ?

[Onizuka]

The * indicates the match will not count for points for the * person.

IE, Cheesy and Oa have volunteered to play an extra match to help fill up all matches.

I thank them both.

That image is a bit confuzling ...

• Is there any difference between the double-arrow connection and single line connection ?
• What do the crossing lines mean ? Simple junction ?
• In your example fire passes through earth to water. Can it also pass to Life instead of Water (using the junction) ?
• Does the line from light to the middle of the circle represents a connection to the other side of the circle ?
• The inner circle seems to have 4 connected elements, while the other layers only have 3, isn't that imbalanced ?

1. No.
2. I am unsure what a simple junction is. But the crossed line just means it goes that way too.
3. If you pass through earth you can use life and water.
4. Light can start off with Fire, Air, and Darkness. Not sure what you mean otherwise.
5. Elements is imbalanced.

[hainkarga]

These confusing rules disgust and anger me. i guess i don't need to ban anything at all since i have no in element battles ? There is no definition of "in element battle" so i can only guess.

Edit

Before every match you and your opponent chat message someone not in either one of your elements, nor facing it 3 cards.

what ?

[CuCN]

Before the match you send a list of three cards you want to ban to a person who is not participating in the Trial of your element or your opponent's element.

[Onizuka]

These confusing rules disgust and anger me. i guess i don't need to ban anything at all since i have no in element battles ? There is no definition of "in element battle" so i can only guess.

Edit

Before every match you and your opponent chat message someone not in either one of your elements, nor facing it 3 cards.

what ?

Yep, you don't get the privilege of sending in element bans.


Ex: Before you play Blaze, you can send Jenkar 3 cards that you and Blaze can't use that match. You can't send it to TribalTrouble, treebeard, or Dopha.

[hainkarga]

Allright thanks, more questions regarding deckbuilding.
* I'm at aether, for the first match say i choose time. Do i have to use only time & aether cards ? And you say only 9 off element cards per element. so do i have to use at most 9 time cards and all of the rest only aether (+other) ? or can i use whatever card possible as long as i preserve 50% aether and at most 9 from any one element.
* Other cards are in element. Then is it possible to use 15 quantum pillars and make them count as in element ?

Edit for more:
* What is the indication of "using an element". using its mark ? And does it reset for every opponent or is it banned to me until the end of phase if i use time mark once on my first opponent ?

[Onizuka]

Allright thanks, more questions regarding deckbuilding.
* I'm at aether, for the first match say i choose time. Do i have to use only time & aether cards ? And you say only 9 off element. so do i have to use at most 9 time cards and all of the rest only aether (+other) ?
* Other cards are in element. Then is it possible to use 15 quantum pillars and make them count as in element ?

Edit for more:
* What is the indication of "using an element". using its mark ? And does it reset for every opponent or is it banned to me until the end of phase if i use time mark once on my first opponent ?

If you choose to use time during your first game, then you can only use aether, other, and up to 9 time cards. However, nothing is stopping you from using time, aether, and death all in your first deck. But you can only push through one of them after that game. If you push through death, you can only use entropy and life as off elements for your next game.
Yes.

Edit for more:
* What is the indication of "using an element". using its mark ? And does it reset for every opponent or is it banned to me until the end of phase if i use time mark once on my first opponent ?

If you use a card from an element, you use that element. If you use time mark but no time cards, time mark/cards can be used next game.
Each opponent is separate. Using time in one match does not affect what you can use in another match.

[TribalTrouble]

Zso Zso it is a simple junction, but that line doesn't connect elements to the whole circle.

So we have to move around the circle each day? Is this tracked with the table?

Also, I don't understand how we ban cards at all. Please go through the process in detail for me and my troubled mind.

edit: This is even worse than Geometry...