4th Trials - Suggestions and Feedback

[johannhowitzer]

The post of yours that was either deleted by you yourself or by a moderator for spam.  Come on, we all saw it.

[bucky1andonly]

LOL, Didn't realize I could remove my posts, after I read my post I reread some others, and mine made no sense.  So I deleted what I had, then came back and removed the post.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I'm not really pleased by people signing up for trials without putting up an effort and thereby preventing other, more motivated people to join that element's trials.

To prevent this, I thought up something that will solve this problem, though I'm not sure whether it's worth the drawback.
Basically, Phase 1 is "proving of worthiness", right? So just how does it make sense some challengers aren't deemed "worthy" enough before even being given the chance to prove anything? My point is to remove the cap for signups, only after phase 1 will the cap be enforced by choosing the 4 best challengers, challengers are primarily ranked by the points they scored, followed by either their performance in these tasks, or by the usual measurement of score/posts etc.

Of course, this will have downsides for primarily the trials overseer, for potentially having that much more work; for the masters, because unpopular elements no longer get people who wanted to sign up for trials but couldn't enter in their preferred element, while more popular elements get more challenging challengers.

Though I do think it's a good thing for challengers, since, in my opinion, each challenger should challenge the trials of none other than their favorite element. I mean, what kind of an impression does it make to have someone become master of an element that was basically their third or whatever-th choice?

[Jen-i]

I happily second torb's idea - I think this would be a welcome change - so long as there are clearly explained rules on how to break ties with challengers proving their worthiness.

[MrBlonde]

i third that. And can we just have the masters automatically get points for proving of worthiness. 

[The_Mormegil]

And can we just have the masters automatically get points for proving of worthiness. 

Absolutely not!

[Captain Scibra]

I'm not really pleased by people signing up for trials without putting up an effort and thereby preventing other, more motivated people to join that element's trials.

To prevent this, I thought up something that will solve this problem, though I'm not sure whether it's worth the drawback.
Basically, Phase 1 is "proving of worthiness", right? So just how does it make sense some challengers aren't deemed "worthy" enough before even being given the chance to prove anything? My point is to remove the cap for signups, only after phase 1 will the cap be enforced by choosing the 4 best challengers, challengers are primarily ranked by the points they scored, followed by either their performance in these tasks, or by the usual measurement of score/posts etc.

Of course, this will have downsides for primarily the trials overseer, for potentially having that much more work; for the masters, because unpopular elements no longer get people who wanted to sign up for trials but couldn't enter in their preferred element, while more popular elements get more challenging challengers.

Though I do think it's a good thing for challengers, since, in my opinion, each challenger should challenge the trials of none other than their favorite element. I mean, what kind of an impression does it make to have someone become master of an element that was basically their third or whatever-th choice?

Fourth'd.

[nilsieboy]

I'm not really pleased by people signing up for trials without putting up an effort and thereby preventing other, more motivated people to join that element's trials.

To prevent this, I thought up something that will solve this problem, though I'm not sure whether it's worth the drawback.
Basically, Phase 1 is "proving of worthiness", right? So just how does it make sense some challengers aren't deemed "worthy" enough before even being given the chance to prove anything? My point is to remove the cap for signups, only after phase 1 will the cap be enforced by choosing the 4 best challengers, challengers are primarily ranked by the points they scored, followed by either their performance in these tasks, or by the usual measurement of score/posts etc.

Of course, this will have downsides for primarily the trials overseer, for potentially having that much more work; for the masters, because unpopular elements no longer get people who wanted to sign up for trials but couldn't enter in their preferred element, while more popular elements get more challenging challengers.

Though I do think it's a good thing for challengers, since, in my opinion, each challenger should challenge the trials of none other than their favorite element. I mean, what kind of an impression does it make to have someone become master of an element that was basically their third or whatever-th choice?

Fourth'd.

hard to say what is proving of worthiness, trials have totaly different phases like PvP so i don't think you can decide who's worthy in time.

[Onizuka]

Just a suggestion:

Swapping bonus points from War placing into Proving of Worthiness automatic completion. I'd say sticking around that long is certainly enough to be proven "Worthy".