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Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197476#msg197476
« on: November 09, 2010, 08:51:55 pm »
Western Tournament - 13 November 2010 - Quartets - unupgraded
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Where?
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Rules
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Special Rules
No upgraded cards.
All decks must contain cards from exactly four Elements. No more, no less. "Other" is not an Element.
You may not use the same deck two duels in a row. This means you cannot use the same type of non-pillar card(s) in both decks. Pillars may be reused.
You have to have at least 5 cards (including pillars/pendulums) from each Element in your decks. This is to discourage Immolation/Nova rushes and encourage real quartets.



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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197479#msg197479
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 08:56:52 pm »
So, how do you know whether or not a deck used is a quartet? I mean, there are pretty high chances one of the four elements just doesn't show up during a duel.
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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197483#msg197483
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2010, 09:01:14 pm »
does the deck have to have 25% of each element?

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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197488#msg197488
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2010, 09:08:43 pm »
The way I read it, is a 60 card deck with 57 cards from one element and 3 dead cards each from a different element a legal deck? (starts thinking of Fire Stalls)
If so, how can it be proven these 3 cards actually are in the deck?

And does changing decks mean I could simply swap the dead cards for other dead cards?

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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197492#msg197492
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 09:19:17 pm »
Post the decks you used I guess.

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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197495#msg197495
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 09:21:03 pm »
Trust, xdude. Same as with the trio/rainbow tournaments we've had.
No, 1world24. There's no restriction on how many or few you need right now. If anyone has good arguments as to why we should have it, feel free to present them. As far as I can tell, you're better off making a real quartet than one with dead cards (for instance a golem rush with some easy splashing).
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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197496#msg197496
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 09:27:19 pm »
can i use quantum pillars for my fourth element?
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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197500#msg197500
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2010, 09:31:37 pm »
"Other" is not an Element, so no. If you mean using them to power the cards of the 4th Element, then yes. You can use the same Pillars in both decks, so Quantum Pillars are reusable as well.
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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197503#msg197503
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2010, 09:32:51 pm »
Just to help clarify:
Best-of-three
A match consists of up to 3 individual duels. The player who first wins 2 duels, is the winner.

game 1: You use deck A
game 2: You use deck B
game 3: You can use deck A or any other deck besides deck B

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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197509#msg197509
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 09:38:57 pm »
The same deck is in this context a deck that uses the same cards. You can't use two decks that use Lycanthropes, for instance.
So deck A and deck B cannot have any cards that are the same? hmm seems more interesting...

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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197521#msg197521
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2010, 09:57:45 pm »
The same deck is in this context a deck that uses the same cards. You can't use two decks that use Lycanthropes, for instance.
So, in this context, and given the above quote, I have a question for clarity.  Decks are for illustrative purposes only.

Round 1 Deck is :
:entropy :darkness :air :aether and includes ONLY the aforementioned Lycanthropes, Steals, Fog Shields, and Quints.  For this example it is fueled entirely by Quantum Pillars.

Your quote above indicates that I cannot use the same cards, and that is what indicates a deck distinction. 

Does that mean that a Round 2 Deck could be:
:entropy :darkness :air :aether and include ONLY Discords, Devourers, FFQ, and Lightning, also fueled entirely by Quantum Pillars?

Since the using the same card twice in a row is apparently the distinction, and all but Quantum Pillars belong to an element, not being able to use the same regular pillars/pendulums would be what held back using the same elements, but different cards, two rounds in a row.  If the same decks were fueled by that elements pillars, they'd run afoul of the rules and not be legal, since they used the same cards from the same element twice.

Is this all correct?

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Re: Western Tournament - Nov 13th - Quartets https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15437.msg197529#msg197529
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2010, 10:02:37 pm »
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