Western Tournament - 23 October 2010 - unupgraded - Menagerie

[willng3]

I'm still not really sure how this works. Is it only mark, only creatures/pillars or both that count towards the element?

Special Rules
Only unupgraded cards allowed.
Any mark.
Only creatures and pillars/pendulums allowed
Can only use one element once per round so you need 3 decks with different elements in each.

Because the two items in red are listed separately, this should in turn mean that only creatures, pends, and pillars count towards the element.

[Higurashi]

Only cards count towards making a deck a mono/duo/trio, etc. Mark or ability costs do not matter.

[RagingAlien]

ok. this might become interesting.

[Toimu13]

So if I play Earth Mark, Fire Pillars, and Lava Golem, that only counts as Fire.

But if I play Fire Mark, Earth Pendulums, and Lava Golem, that counts as Fire and Earth?

[Demut]

Correct.

[Nume]

Yes, the cards in the deck are the only thing that affect what elements it is considered. So if the deck has entropy, earth, and fire cards thats the elements it is considered. The mark and abilities have no effect.

[LongDono]

No banlist? I would think that nymphs would be limited or ban because someone that has more than 1 of the same type or that can be mixed together in a deck would have a very large advantage.

[Higurashi]

Not really. Mind Flayer takes care of all creatures with skills, and you can play that faster than Anubis/Turquoise Nymph if you're thinking of quinting them. Of course, a Purple Nymph will completely wreck, say, Monofire, but you have to anticipate these things and adapt.

[LongDono]

Not really. Mind Flayer takes care of all creatures with skills, and you can play that faster than Anubis/Turquoise Nymph if you're thinking of quinting them. Of course, a Purple Nymph will completely wreck, say, Monofire, but you have to anticipate these things and adapt.

Thats true but only 1 of my decks can run Mind flayer due to the change your element rule, so the other 2 games could just be destroyed by nymphs. I am well aware that other cards are out there that can take care of nymphs however in order to use them you have to give up speed to a point. Also not all decks need skills to work, so I pick to run my mindflayer and I run into shriker rush I know I am ready to lose. I know a few players will pick decks that really dont care who they play against, and I would be one of those but overall the idea of nymphs annoy me when thinking of unupgraded events with no spells.
I am personaly fine with nymphs myself but seeing as this is unupgraded I don't see why we should allow them with these current rules. Pillers and creatures are all your allowed to run basicaly, so the older players with better creatures will have a big advantage just because they have the option to use the best creatures.
I also understand that people need to anticipate these things and you can, however a whole other group of players having the option to play these cards in any and all thier decks is a fairly large advantage.
Anyways I just wanted to list my concern thats all, if you don't think it will be an issue it prolly wont be an issue.
See you all at the tournament!

[Ekki]

Errr, one question.
If I use, let's say, a fire pendulum in my mono fire rush deck with a mark of earth, I will be able to use an earth deck in the next match?

[Higurashi]

Yes.

I will repeat that nymphs are not a large advantage, or even a medium-sized one. Most games will be SO fast they won't even have time to do any good.

[LongDono]

Yes.

I will repeat that nymphs are not a large advantage, or even a medium-sized one. Most games will be SO fast they won't even have time to do any good.

ok ok your most likely right on this. I just wanted to list that concern.