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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168642#msg168642
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2010, 07:56:29 pm »
How about rather than debating on each individual card and if it is allowed or not, just say anything other than a pendulum which produces OR destroys quanta or quantum sources is banned?
a vague rule such as that have been used before....led to a whole mess of confusion
it wasnt pleasant for the Tournament Organizer to answer every friggin question regarding it later which is why specifying each banned card is a whole lot better

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168712#msg168712
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 09:52:13 pm »
Yeah, no. We need to have an open discussion. That's what forums are best used for.
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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168721#msg168721
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 10:06:30 pm »
How about rather than debating on each individual card and if it is allowed or not, just say anything other than a pendulum which produces OR destroys quanta or quantum sources is banned?
a vague rule such as that have been used before....led to a whole mess of confusion
it wasnt pleasant for the Tournament Organizer to answer every friggin question regarding it later which is why specifying each banned card is a whole lot better
Yeah just like kobisjeruk said. I am amazed at the number of idiotic imaginative questions people come with at most tournament even after reading the rules.

Here is one example; The rules were "-no upped cards" and "-no permanents besides pillars" and the ignorant fools comes with the questions like "can i use titan/farenheit/etc?" "can i use Shard of gratitude/random shield/etc?"

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If one goes simple they ask stupid question as above, if one goes very specific and simple they go "lolz 2 hard 2 understandz". If you talk to them personally and ask "what was so hard to understand?" they reply "it was unclear, calm down its just a game lets have fun" even though during the week one had specified -no weapons -no shields etc.

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168726#msg168726
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2010, 10:23:52 pm »
to make sure... CAN we have a mono with penduli?

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168728#msg168728
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2010, 10:27:27 pm »
How about rather than debating on each individual card and if it is allowed or not, just say anything other than a pendulum which produces OR destroys quanta or quantum sources is banned?
banning cards that destroy quanta sources on itself is by far too vague, I mean, that could also imply Butterfly Effect, Pulverizer, Steal, Improved Mutation, Explosion and Fallen Druid. Yet these are cards one should definetly NOT ban, or let the shield spam commence.

And I agree with what has already been said.

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Just use pendulums; I don't see monos having too much advantage over other combos
So yes, monos with penduli are allowed.

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168739#msg168739
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 10:42:19 pm »
to make sure... CAN we have a mono with penduli?
Yes.
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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168753#msg168753
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 11:03:46 pm »
Well ok then... Quick Discords will ruin you if the entropy deck is a fast one.
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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168758#msg168758
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2010, 11:16:57 pm »
This might sound dumb, but would mutation be banned? Isn't it possible to mutate into something that can generate quanta on it's own?

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168760#msg168760
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 11:21:41 pm »
This might sound dumb, but would mutation be banned? Isn't it possible to mutate into something that can generate quanta on it's own?
as far as I know, no
unless you are looking very farfetched at a quantum generating creature mutant with a non-quanta generating ability(impossible for mutants to generate quanta the "normal" way) that gets reverse timed and sent back in, but that's so unreliable and slow, I  would personally not see why to ban it.

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168809#msg168809
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2010, 01:19:59 am »
new rule added
light nymph obtained from nymphs tears is not allowed.

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg168917#msg168917
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2010, 04:17:51 am »
how about generate gravity nymphs with nymph tears?

so many rules being added time by time.

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Re: Western Tournament - 2 October - Pendulums https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13186.msg169154#msg169154
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2010, 05:08:48 pm »
In the absence of any of the other TO's, I'm going to rule Gravity Nymphs illegal as well. It would make little sense to allow them when Black Hole isn't allowed. Not that I think anyone was planning on playing a Gravity Nymph, even with Nymph's Tears, but it's always best to make it official.
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