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Can we expect you in this tournament?

Yes, this time is usually good for me.
5 (62.5%)
Yes, but this time is usually not good for me.
0 (0%)
No, but this time is usually good for me.
1 (12.5%)
No, this time is usually not good for me at all.
1 (12.5%)
I don't know, but this time is good on average.
1 (12.5%)
I don't know, but this time is usually not good for me.
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: October 17, 2016, 05:08:00 am

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Do you like this tournament rules?

Yes, I would like to see it used again.
0 (0%)
Yes, but some minor changes are needed for balancing.
5 (100%)
No, some major changes are needed for balancing.
0 (0%)
No, this idea is totally unbalanced and should never be used again.
0 (0%)
Other. (Please specify AFTER tournament has ended)
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: October 17, 2016, 05:08:49 am

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Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63356.msg1248849#msg1248849
« on: October 14, 2016, 04:41:54 am »
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Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded
Tournament Organizers: Ginyu, mathman101, or Solaris


When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20161015T18&p1=1440

Tournament has started.

Where?
Please enter the Tournament room at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts.
Click "Rooms" in the top left to find it.

Rules
Please read the PvP Tournament rules carefully before joining the tournament.
Remember to also read the Special Rules listed below!

Prizes
1st place5,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark + Trophy (Forum Icon)
2nd place5,000 electrum
3rd place4,000 electrum
4th place3,000 electrum

In case of 18 or more players, tournament prizes will be increased.

Points for the World Championship
1st place4 points
2nd place2 points
3rd place1 point





NOTE: You need just one presentable forum post to be allowed to join tournaments; you can post it here. If this will be your first tournament, a Tournament Organizer will test your knowledge about the rules. So please be present in tournament room 30 minutes before the tournament starts.





Special Rules
  • Always read the second post! It contains equally important information most of the time.
  • Upgraded cards and shards are banned.
  • Minimum 4 different types(Spells/Permanents/Creatures) of cards in each deck excluding pillars/pends.
  • Maximum 4 different copies of cards are allowed in the deck, excluding pillar/pends.
  • Maximum 4 different elements allowed in the deck, excluding pillar/pends.
  • Deck size must be divisible by 4.
  • Parallel Universe, Fractal, Mitosis, Mutation, Discord, Earthquake, Black Hole, Amber Nymph, Nymphs Tears, Nymph Queen and Blue Nymph are banned.


Thanks to dark ripper for this tournament idea!



Tournament Organizers Note

If you think there is an overpowered card that ought to be banned, or you have some concerns about the tournament metagame, mechanics or other stuff, do NOT post it publicly in the comments or anywhere else on the Forums. Instead, send a private message to Tournament Organizers, who will privately discuss about it. Thanks for your cooperation.

« Last Edit: November 12, 2016, 01:30:22 am by Solaris »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63356.msg1248850#msg1248850
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2016, 04:42:02 am »
TOURNAMENTS FAQ

Q: What does it mean by 4 types?
A: Spells, Creatures, and Permanents each count as types.

Q: Can you give an example of 4 types?
A: Sure:
 - 2 different spells, and 2 different creatures would be legal.
 - 1 spell, 1 creature, and 2 permanents would be legal.
 - 1 spell, 1 creature, and 1 permanent would be illegal.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2016, 04:51:36 am by mathman101 »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63356.msg1248858#msg1248858
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2016, 05:39:23 am »
Why differentiate between permanent, creature and spell when 4 different creature cards form a legal deck (as well as any other combination of cards where you just include a single copy of a different card just to fill the 4th type). Also I see your examples include never more than 2 different cards of the same type and might be limited to exactly 4 types. Maybe a completely different ruleset was intended (or I suck at reading correctly)?
If its still possible to change, i suggest the following instead: Decks must contain at least 4 copies each of 4 distinct cards or decks must contain 4 different things of the following: Creature, Spell, Weapon, Shield and Permanent which goes into any of the normal permanent slots.
As in the op, Card copies of any card are limited to a maximum of 4 and the total decksize must be divisible by 4. And rainbow decks are not allowed.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63356.msg1248863#msg1248863
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2016, 06:36:53 am »
To emphasize on what kaempfer wrote: I don't think you can have 4 different types when there are but 3 to choose from. In each example listed there are at least two non-different types. If something else is meant, clarifying why types are mentioned would be fabulous. :)
The implied meaning seems to be 4 different cards where the card type itself is irrelevant.

Perhaps some examples would do us good, tell us which is illegal and why:
Spoiler for examples:
This is an example of a deck using 4 different cards that all belong to the same type.
It has 4 different cards, with at most 4 copies each.
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4t3 4t3 4t3 4t3 4t4 4t4 4t4 4t4 4tc 4tc 4tc 4tc 5ih 5ih 5ih 5ih 8pp

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Re: Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63356.msg1248866#msg1248866
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2016, 07:36:31 am »
For example, you have 4 Ash Eater, 2 Photon, 1 Miracle, and 3 Fire Shield in your deck. This means that you have 4 types of cards, as you have 2x creature (Photon and Ash Eater, 1x spell (Miracle), and 1x permanent (Fire Shield). You may have any amount of the singular categories, so long as you have a total of 4.

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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2016, 07:39:31 am »
For example, you have 4 Ash Eater, 2 Photon, 1 Miracle, and 3 Fire Shield in your deck. This means that you have 4 types of cards, as you have 2x creature (Photon and Ash Eater, 1x spell (Miracle), and 1x permanent (Fire Shield). You may have any amount of the singular categories, so long as you have a total of 4.
But if card type is defined as Creature/Spell/Permanent, doesn't this mean you're using 4 different cards? If you hadn't defined card types as Creature/Spell/Permanent but instead as "Ash Eater", "Miracle" etc. it's fine.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63356.msg1248975#msg1248975
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2016, 06:38:03 pm »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - October 15th - Four of a Kind - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=63356.msg1248980#msg1248980
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