Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 25, 2014, 06:27:11 pm
Weekly Tournament - November 29th - No Country for Old Men - Unupgraded
Now in Full HD! Organizers: SpikeSpiegel, Submachine, Dm1321, dawn to dusk or Higurashi
| (http://imgur.com/yD5fDu7.jpg) | When? To find out your local time, check this link: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20141129T17
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| (http://imgur.com/H0U0714.png) | Where? Please enter the Tournament room (http://elementscommunity.org/chat/blab.php) at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts. Click "Rooms" in the top left to find it. |
| (http://imgur.com/4uU7W5Q.png) | Rules Please read the PvP Tournament rules (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6997.0.html) carefully before signing up. |
| (http://imgur.com/UiQaDHU.jpg) | Prizes
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Players who lose their quarterfinal (Top 8) matches will compete for the 5th and 6th place prizes in a mini-tournament. Prize-eligible players (namely, ones in the top 8) who leave the tournament without notifying the Tournament Organizer of their intent are considered to have forfeited their match, and also their prize.
Diagram Legend
Black lines and text represent the brackets.
Red arrows represent 'dropping' into a different part of the bracket.
Blue arrows and text explain which battles are taking place in that part of the bracket.
(http://i.imgur.com/HtyVD.png)
Black lines and text represent the brackets.
Red arrows represent 'dropping' into a different part of the bracket.
Blue arrows and text explain which battles are taking place in that part of the bracket.
(http://i.imgur.com/HtyVD.png)
NOTE: Players with fewer than 10 forum posts are not allowed to enter tournaments. Spamming low-quality posts to reach the minimum post count needed to participate will not be tolerated.
Special Rules
- Always read the second post! It contains equally important information most of the time.
- Upgraded cards are not allowed.
- Non pillars/non pendulums cards allowed are only those in the special list.
- Once you used a card from this list, you can't use it again for the rest of the tournament, even against the same opponent.
- Pillars, pendulums and mark cards can be used freely.
- Match winners have to post, with the match result, a cumulative list of the cards they used. This also applies to losers of quarterfinal matches (if they will play for 5th place) and to losers of semifinal matches.
- If the tourney will have from 9 to 15 participants, who will receive a bye will have to discard: 10 cards.
- If the tourney will have from 17 to 31 participants, who will receive a bye will have to discard: 8 cards.
- If the tourney will have from 33 to 63 participants, who will receive a bye will have to discard: 3 cards.
- Discarded cards for byes will be posted as reply to this thread soon after brackets presentation.
Tournament Organizer Note
If you think that there is an overpowered card that should be banned, don't say it publicly in the comments. Instead, send them to SpikeSpiegel and Submachine who will privately discuss whether the card is really OP or not.
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1st Place : RootRanger
2nd Place : iancudorinmarian
3rd Place : Seulintse
4th Place : Odii_Odsen
5th Place : Pwconfirm
6th Place : yee
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 25, 2014, 06:27:32 pm
Q: How many copies of each card in the list I can use in a deck?
A: Since it is not specified, up to 6.
Q: There's a mandatory number of special list cards I've to use in a deck?
A: Nope.
Q: What does it means: "Once you used a card from this list, you can't use it again for the rest of the tournament, even against the same opponent."???
A: It means that once you used a card, that card is gone and you cannot use it anymore, for the rest of the tournament.
Q: Why I've to post cards I've used, if I win a match?
A: This way we can track cards used, and every further match will become more difficult, since your opponent will know what cards you can still use (And vice versa, of course)
Post by: CCCombobreaker on November 25, 2014, 06:41:03 pm
Getting a first round bye has a huge impact on the cards still available to players in later rounds. I believe Jen-i will agree that I had a large lead going into the finals just based on how many possible decks I could still create.
Post by: iancudorinmarian on November 25, 2014, 06:43:22 pm
Having won similarly ruled tournament Origins (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/tournament-archive/weekly-tournament-september-20th-origins-unupgraded/), I would recommend having some sort of ruling that allows players that play an extra round to recover some of those cards for the finals.Hmm, maybe something like Rent-a-Deck's mechanic? When you win you take a card from your opponent (if you don't already have it).
Getting a first round bye has a huge impact on the cards still available to players in later rounds. I believe Jen-i will agree that I had a large lead going into the finals just based on how many possible decks I could still create.
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 25, 2014, 06:49:49 pm
SPECIAL RULES EDITED:
- Players that will receive a bye in the first round have to choose 6 cards to discard.
Post by: RootRanger on November 25, 2014, 06:57:34 pm
How about 12 cards? Even at that point, I'd have a preference towards receiving a bye.
Or, alternatively, players re-gain cards they used in Round 1 at the start of Round 2.
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 25, 2014, 06:59:19 pm
12 cards would be too many. We're going to discuss it, in case of modify we'll tell ya. Thanks for feedback.
Post by: Shinki12345 on November 25, 2014, 08:54:11 pm
Post by: Ginyu on November 25, 2014, 08:55:43 pm
Wow, an unupped tourney that allows unlimited shards? That's unusual.
"Non pillars/non pendulums cards allowed are only those in the special list."
There are no shards in the special list.
Post by: Shinki12345 on November 25, 2014, 09:00:16 pm
Wow, an unupped tourney that allows unlimited shards? That's unusual.
"Non pillars/non pendulums cards allowed are only those in the special list."
There are no shards in the special list.
Ohhh, I think I misread that part then.
Post by: flyingcat on November 25, 2014, 11:23:45 pm
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 25, 2014, 11:25:37 pm
What happens if you run out of usable cards by the finals?
You still have cards to use. Pillars, pendulums and mark cards. But most likely you will lose.
;)
Post by: Submachine on November 25, 2014, 11:25:49 pm
What happens if you run out of usable cards by the finals?You use a 30-pillar deck and lose (unless you deck your opponent out).
Post by: Blacksmith on November 25, 2014, 11:34:50 pm
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 25, 2014, 11:41:27 pm
How about you lose all cards that your opponent used when receiving a by first round. So basically you're cards are identical to the player you're facing if you receive a by first round.
Ehm...what???
Post by: flyingcat on November 25, 2014, 11:42:27 pm
Post by: Blacksmith on November 25, 2014, 11:46:20 pm
Well you had a problem with it being an advantage to get a by since you would have more cards later on. So why not have the people who are having a by losing the same cards as the opponent they're facing?How about you lose all cards that your opponent used when receiving a by first round. So basically you're cards are identical to the player you're facing if you receive a by first round.
Ehm...what???
In other words. Player X use card A,B and C in his first game and can therefore not use those cards again, player Y who received a by may not use any of the cards player X used first round, A,B and C in other words.
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 25, 2014, 11:48:31 pm
Oh, it was a purpose. Actually I don't like too much to force a player to discard cards used by another player. Btw, thanks for the feedback we'll take in consideration your suggestion.
Post by: CrockettRocket on November 25, 2014, 11:48:38 pm
I think we'd try to build a 60 card piller deck for hopes of deck outWhat happens if you run out of usable cards by the finals?You use a 30-pillar deck and lose (unless you deck your opponent out).
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 26, 2014, 04:46:40 pm
SPECIAL RULES EDITED:
- Players that will receive a bye in the first round have to choose 7 cards to discard.
Post by: Physsion on November 27, 2014, 03:01:13 am
One day I'll find a tournament that I can participate in!
Post by: montrossen on November 27, 2014, 07:28:22 am
Post by: leandrebs on November 27, 2014, 06:03:12 pm
Post by: seulintse on November 27, 2014, 06:04:57 pm
Also, seriously? you consider flying weapon an OP card, or is it a kind of "make things more interesting" reason to exclude it... :3
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 27, 2014, 07:08:13 pm
Cards to discard in case of a bye are still matter of discussion between TO's.
Tthe cards Special list has been filled up trying to make the metagame most interesting and various as possible, and that's why we excluded some cards rather than others.
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 27, 2014, 09:17:36 pm
After a long and careful discussion, we finally stated these rules for cards to discard in case of byes:
- From 9 to 15 participants, who will receive a bye has to discard: 10 cards
- From 17 to 31 participants, who will receive a bye has to discard: 8 cards
- From 33 to 63 participants, who will receive a bye has to discard: 3 cards
Thanks to all for the feedback, support and patience. A big thanks to submachine and Dm for the big help in balacing this tourney.
Post by: treebeard xiii on November 28, 2014, 04:05:51 am
SPECIAL RULES EDITED:
After a long and careful discussion, we finally stated these rules for cards to discard in case of byes:
- From 9 to 15 participants, who will receive a bye has to discard: 10 cards
- From 17 to 31 participants, who will receive a bye has to discard: 8 cards
- From 33 to 63 participants, who will receive a bye has to discard: 3 cards
Thanks to all for the feedback, support and patience. A big thanks to submachine and Dm for the big help in balacing this tourney.
17-31 and 33-63 bit ambitious that don't think there aren't enough active members interested to make half those numbers even in their prime did you ever get 33-63 participants. :P
Post by: CrockettRocket on November 28, 2014, 04:17:49 am
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 28, 2014, 05:12:34 am
For the lolz, I guess. Will there be no discarding for more than 63 participants?
From: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/pvp-tournaments/tournament-rules/
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1.6 - 64 player limit
Each tournament has a maximum of 64 players. If we have more than 32 players, we will have a fast 10 minute "best-of-one" preliminary round to determine which 32 players go to round 1.
Moreover, with 64 players we'll no byes.
Post by: mrpaper on November 28, 2014, 12:09:45 pm
17-31 and 33-63 bit ambitious that don't think there aren't enough active members interested to make half those numbers even in their prime did you ever get 33-63 participants. :P
sadly... yes and twice per week-end! though those tournies were terrible headaches and often lasted 4 hours
Post by: SpikeSpiegel on November 28, 2014, 05:38:42 pm
17-31 and 33-63 bit ambitious that don't think there aren't enough active members interested to make half those numbers even in their prime did you ever get 33-63 participants. :P
sadly... yes and twice per week-end! though those tournies were terrible headaches and often lasted 4 hours
Good old times...
Post by: Dm on November 29, 2014, 05:14:26 pm
(http://images.challonge.com/NCFOM29.png)
This has been done to ensure that the card amount is consistent to all rounds AND to better accomodate the majority of players (AKA those not in prelims.) I will explain this to other TO's if necessary.
Post by: RootRanger on November 29, 2014, 05:30:13 pm
Post by: 10 men on November 29, 2014, 05:31:12 pm
Post by: iancudorinmarian on November 29, 2014, 05:38:00 pm
DANIEELA: 1
Post by: Dm on November 29, 2014, 05:40:33 pm
Post by: Odii Odsen on November 29, 2014, 05:43:56 pm
Graboid, Ice Shield, Poison, Sanctuary, Shrieker, Arctic Squid,Bone Wall, Basilisk Blood, Bone Wall, Mummy, Miracle
Post by: yee on November 29, 2014, 05:46:28 pm
Used cards
Ghost of the past, Nightmare, Rewerse time, Graboid, Shieker
Post by: pwconfirm on November 29, 2014, 05:48:24 pm
Post by: RootRanger on November 29, 2014, 05:51:35 pm
Yeah I know it's unfair that I'm only discarding cards from 2 games when it would have gone to a 3rd game...but this is made up for by the fact that I had an extra opponent, yes?
Post by: seulintse on November 29, 2014, 06:00:23 pm
hate the fact I don't have all unupgraded cards allowed -.-
Post by: iancudorinmarian on November 29, 2014, 06:04:00 pm
Dm: 0
Post by: Odii Odsen on November 29, 2014, 06:08:40 pm
Good games mate!
Adrenaline, Devourer, Gargoyle, Short Bow, Horned Frog, Steal, Cockatrice
Post by: RootRanger on November 29, 2014, 06:21:43 pm
EDIT: Fixed discard. I had clicked the wrong card in my hurry.
Post by: yee on November 29, 2014, 06:31:07 pm
Ghost of the past, Nightmare, Rewerse time, Graboid, Shieker, Immortal, Lighting, Dimensional shield, Adrenaline, Horned frog, Cockratice, Toadfish, Artic squid, Ice shield
Post by: pwconfirm on November 29, 2014, 07:05:48 pm
Post by: seulintse on November 29, 2014, 07:07:58 pm
wait, so I'm in the quarterfinals? :D
Post by: RootRanger on November 29, 2014, 07:12:15 pm
Post by: pwconfirm on November 29, 2014, 07:35:30 pm
Post by: iancudorinmarian on November 29, 2014, 08:30:28 pm
seulintse: 1
Post by: seulintse on November 29, 2014, 08:34:37 pm
walk over win? seriously? wow, way to be anti-climatic guys, you guys are the worst! (seriously? I kinda wanted it to like, at least have a feeling of I earned it or something, lol) although I obviously still want my prize, because nothing says sportsmanship than being a sore 3rd place winner! (A.K.A. people who still are technically losers)
seriously, that was fun :)
Post by: RootRanger on November 29, 2014, 08:44:24 pm
Post by: Dm on November 29, 2014, 08:46:10 pm
1st Place : RootRanger
2nd Place : iancudorinmarian
3rd Place : Seulintse
4th Place : Odii_Odsen
5th Place : Pwconfirm
6th Place : yee
Codes to be handed out shortly.
Post by: yee on November 30, 2014, 11:04:48 am
Post by: iancudorinmarian on November 30, 2014, 11:06:39 am
Did anyone run out of cards in the last matches? :)nope
Post by: RootRanger on November 30, 2014, 07:20:59 pm
Did anyone run out of cards in the last matches? :)ian had burnt through all of his decent decks though. I still had a Mono Life and Discord Rush.
Post by: iancudorinmarian on November 30, 2014, 08:37:13 pm
I could've maybe built some good decks, but I was really in a hurry. Sorry I didn't give you the challenge you waited for...Did anyone run out of cards in the last matches? :)ian had burnt through all of his decent decks though. I still had a Mono Life and Discord Rush.