Poll

Can we expect you to the tournament?

Yes, this time is usually good for me.
7 (19.4%)
Yes, but usually this time is not good for me.
3 (8.3%)
No, but the time is usually good for me.
3 (8.3%)
No, this time is usually not good for me at all.
13 (36.1%)
I don't know, but the time seems good on average.
6 (16.7%)
I don't know, but this time is usually not good for me.
4 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Voting closed: November 22, 2014, 04:02:37 pm

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Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166587#msg1166587
« on: November 17, 2014, 03:52:22 pm »
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Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded
Soon on ESPN! Organizers: SpikeSpiegel, Submachine, Dm1321, dawn to dusk or Higurashi

When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20141122T09&p1=1440

Tournament has started

Where?
Please enter the Tournament room at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts.
Click "Rooms" in the top left to find it.

Rules
Please read the PvP Tournament rules carefully before signing up.

Prizes
1st7,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark + Trophy (Forum Icon)
2nd5,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark
3rd4,000 electrum
4th3,000 electrum
5th2,000 electrum
6th1,000 electrum

Players who lose their quarterfinal (Top 8) matches will compete for the 5th and 6th place prizes in a mini-tournament. Prize-eligible players (namely, ones in the top 8) who leave the tournament without notifying the Tournament Organizer of their intent are considered to have forfeited their match, and also their prize.

Spoiler for Diagram Legend:
Diagram Legend
Black lines and text represent the brackets.
Red arrows represent 'dropping' into a different part of the bracket.
Blue arrows and text explain which battles are taking place in that part of the bracket.



NOTE: Players with fewer than 10 forum posts are not allowed to enter tournaments. Spamming low-quality posts to reach the minimum post count needed to participate will not be tolerated.


Special Rules
  • Always read the second post! It contains equally important information most of the time.
  • Upgraded cards and shards are allowed, but not required.
  • Each deck must include 6 (or more) copies of at least 1 card type from the Special List.
  • You have to include 6 copies of each card that you use from the special list.
  • You cannot use more than 4 copies of any card types that are not on the Special List.
  • For every element you use in a deck, you must use 1 unupgraded card.
  • For every type of shards you use, you must use 2 more unupgraded cards.
  • For each copy of shards you use, you must use 1 more unupgraded cards
  • The number of "mandatory" unupgraded cards can't exceed the deck size. See FAQ for more details.

Special List
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4sa 4tb 4vj 4vl 52j 52o 55s 55v 590 593 5c5 5c7 5f4 5f9 5ib 5ig 5l9 5lm 5oi 5om 5rp 5ru 5um 5v1 61t 622



Tournament Organizer Note

If you think that there is an overpowered card that should be banned, don't say it publicly in the comments. Instead, send them to SpikeSpiegel and Submachine who will privately discuss whether the card is really OP or not.





1st place: hainkarga
2nd place: Ginyu
3rd place: Annele
4th place: SpikeSpiegel
« Last Edit: November 22, 2014, 10:46:13 am by SpikeSpiegel »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166588#msg1166588
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 03:52:46 pm »
Deck Checker for the tournament: http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/tournament.htm
Special thanks for serprex and Fippe94 for creating this tool and the ruleset checker.

TOURNAMENTS FAQ

Q: What are "mandatory unupgraded cards"?? Isn't the tournament upgraded?
A: Yes, in this tournament you can use upgraded cards; but there are some rules that force you to use some unupgraded cards in your deck. For example, for each element you use, you've to use 1 unupped card; it means that if you're using a 30 cards monodeck (without shards), your max number of upgraded cards is 29. If your deck is a 30 cards duo (shardless), you can use at max 28 upgraded cards.


Q: How does the mandatory unupgraded cards count work, using shards?
A: Pretty simple. For every type of shard you use, you've to use 2 upgraded cards; for each copy of a shard, 1 more upgraded card.

Spoiler for Examples for dummies:
This is my deck, a 30 cards monoQP. As you can see, it uses 29 upgraded cards, since i've to use 1 unupgraded card for using 1 element.

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4sa 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 8ps


Now, I want to add some shards to this deck. Let's add a SoPa; I've to use 2 more unupgraded cards for the shard type, 1 more unupped card for each SoPa copy, 1 more unupped card because SoPa is :water and it would be my second element in use. So, after adding 1 upped SoPa:

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 7hi 8ps


Adding more SoPa's would force me to use 1 more unupped card for each copy.

If instead I want to add another type of shard to that deck, for example SoV (2 copies), the number of mandatory cards is so calculated: 3 elements used ( Others,  :water:darkness) = 3 unupped cards; 2 shard types ( :water:darkness) = 4 unupped cards; 3 shard copies (1 SoPa, 2 SoV's) = 3 upped cards. Total of mandatory unupgraded cards = 10 cards.

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 5vi 5vi 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 7hi 8ps


Q: I've calculated my number of mandatory unupped cards and it's 34. It means that I can play my 30 cards deck fully unupgraded?
A: Nope, it means you cannot use a 30 cards deck; the number of mandatory unupgraded cards cannot exceed the deck total. If you've to use 34 unupgraded cards, your deck must have at least 34 cards.


Q: Phoenix (for example) is not in the list, I can use 5 copies of it in my deck?
A: Nope. The max number of copies of cards that are not in the Special List is: 4.


Q: Can I use, for example, 3 Quantum Pillars and 3 Long Bows in my deck to get 6 copies?
A: NOPE. For each card from the Special List you use, you've to use at least 6 copies of it. For example, if you're planning to use Nova, your deck must have 6 Novas. If you're planning to use Nova and Immolation, your deck must have 6 Novas and 6 Immo's.

Side note: we're using the form "at least 6 copies" due to the presence of Quantum Pillar in the Special list.


Q: What about pillars, pendulums and mark cards?
A: All pillars/pends/mark cards (except Quantum Pillar|Tower) can be used without any limitation.


Q: "Others" will count as an element used?
A: Yes. "Others" in this tournament is counted as an element. So, if in a mono deck you add even 1 Quantum Pillars, the deck will considered as using 2 elements.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2014, 06:45:36 pm by Submachine »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166590#msg1166590
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 04:01:15 pm »
No, this time is usually not good for me at all. :-*
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166591#msg1166591
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 04:04:57 pm »
Tbh I dislike the unupgraded cards idea in an upgraded tourney. We hadn't a pure upgraded tourney for ages.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166593#msg1166593
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 04:14:44 pm »
Tbh I dislike the unupgraded cards idea in an upgraded tourney. We hadn't a pure upgraded tourney for ages.
I can understand why it means it is more newb friendly but as a majority of tourney participants partiularly in upgraded are not totally newb. So yeah maybe a fully upgraded tourney might be in order every so often.

to save on double post why are these upgraded tournies always at awkward times for.

I guess i'll try and be there but no promises this looks like a more varied meta than the last tourney I participated in.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166598#msg1166598
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 04:40:08 pm »
Once and for all: we (TO's) are not evil entities spending their spare time trying to find the most unsuitable time to play a tournament. We're following a rotation, began long time ago.

We're also making polls in every tournament thread to fill, one day, a tab with the most suitable time to play; but it requires a little bit more of time.

Moreover, we used to comunicate stuff, but now I've to ask you all: do you know the existence of this thread?

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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166599#msg1166599
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 04:53:37 pm »
Once and for all: we (TO's) are not evil entities spending their spare time trying to find the most unsuitable time to play a tournament. We're following a rotation, began long time ago.

We're also making polls in every tournament thread to fill, one day, a tab with the most suitable time to play; but it requires a little bit more of time.

Moreover, we used to comunicate stuff, but now I've to ask you all: do you know the existence of this thread?

If you were referring to me I never said the TOs were evil entities I know your just following the rotation ad I did know about that thread it was more annoyance at my timezone not at the TOs.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166686#msg1166686
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 10:55:27 am »
Wow that list. Might as well have created a semi-unupped version of league  :P I'll try to make it.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166711#msg1166711
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 01:13:46 pm »
Saying this for everyone’s benefit: It seems that now we are allowed to use 2 or more different card types to reach a number of 6 cards from the list.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166713#msg1166713
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 01:41:27 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 05:46:49 pm »
What?! Spike...
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Re: Weekly Tournament - November 22th - Specialization #3 - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.msg1166738#msg1166738
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 06:53:28 pm »

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Sorry for the issue. Misunderstanding between TO's. Rules are these. In case of editing, we'll say it loud and clear.
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