Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Aether?

Spark
2 (2.5%)
Lightning
2 (2.5%)
Parallel Universe
0 (0%)
Immortal
3 (3.8%)
Dimensional Shield
30 (37.5%)
Lobotomizer
4 (5%)
Phase Dragon
0 (0%)
Phase Spider
4 (5%)
Quintessence
2 (2.5%)
Fractal
17 (21.3%)
Mindgate
0 (0%)
Psion
14 (17.5%)
Phase Salvager
2 (2.5%)

Total Members Voted: 40

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:35:25 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Air?

Dragonfly
2 (2.7%)
Wyrm
2 (2.7%)
Azure Dragon
2 (2.7%)
Fog Shield
14 (18.9%)
Thunderstorm
2 (2.7%)
Flying Weapon
4 (5.4%)
Firefly Queen
7 (9.5%)
Firefly
3 (4.1%)
Owl's Eye
8 (10.8%)
Unstable Gas
18 (24.3%)
Shockwave
1 (1.4%)
Wings
9 (12.2%)
Sky Blitz
2 (2.7%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:36:10 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Darkness?

Black Dragon
4 (6.1%)
Parasite
1 (1.5%)
Dusk Mantle
10 (15.2%)
Steal
19 (28.8%)
Nightfall
1 (1.5%)
Vampire Stiletto
8 (12.1%)
Drain Life
0 (0%)
Minor Vampire
3 (4.5%)
Liquid Shadow
5 (7.6%)
Gargoyle
2 (3%)
Voodoo Doll
7 (10.6%)
Cloak
6 (9.1%)

Total Members Voted: 33

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:36:29 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Death?

Bone Dragon
1 (1.5%)
Virus
1 (1.5%)
Flesh Spider
4 (5.9%)
Vulture
2 (2.9%)
Skull Shield
4 (5.9%)
Skeleton
2 (2.9%)
Boneyard
2 (2.9%)
Poison
7 (10.3%)
Plague
2 (2.9%)
Arsenic
17 (25%)
Bonewall
18 (26.5%)
Aflatoxin
2 (2.9%)
Mummy
0 (0%)
Deathstalker
4 (5.9%)
Soul Catcher
2 (2.9%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:39:06 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Earth?

Antlion
2 (3%)
Hematite Golem
2 (3%)
Stone Dragon
1 (1.5%)
Titanium Shield
5 (7.5%)
Plate Armor
2 (3%)
Gnome Rider
2 (3%)
Pulverizer
10 (14.9%)
Graboid
21 (31.3%)
Shrieker
3 (4.5%)
Enchant Artifact
1 (1.5%)
Stone Skin
7 (10.4%)
Basilisk Blood
3 (4.5%)
Iridium Warden
8 (11.9%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:38:52 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Entropy?

Maxwell's Demon
5 (6.9%)
Abomination
0 (0%)
Purple Dragon
1 (1.4%)
Dissipation Shield
4 (5.6%)
Lycanthrope
3 (4.2%)
Chaos Seed|Chaos Power
5 (6.9%)
Nova|Supernova
21 (29.2%)
Mutation
2 (2.8%)
Fallen Elf
1 (1.4%)
Antimatter
14 (19.4%)
Butterfly Effect
3 (4.2%)
Pandemonium
12 (16.7%)
Schrödinger's Cat
1 (1.4%)

Total Members Voted: 36

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:38:38 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Fire?

Ash Eater
1 (1.5%)
Crimson Dragon
2 (3%)
Fire Spirit
4 (6%)
Fire Bolt
11 (16.4%)
Fire Shield
1 (1.5%)
Deflagration
12 (17.9%)
Fahrenheit
5 (7.5%)
Rain of Fire
6 (9%)
Immolation
12 (17.9%)
Lava Golem
2 (3%)
Rage Potion
3 (4.5%)
Phoenix
5 (7.5%)
Seraph
3 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:38:24 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Gravity?

Sapphire Charger
6 (9.1%)
Armagio
2 (3%)
Graviton Mercenary
2 (3%)
Colossal Dragon
1 (1.5%)
Gravity Shield
5 (7.6%)
Momentum
6 (9.1%)
Otyugh
13 (19.7%)
Titan
9 (13.6%)
Gravity Pull
2 (3%)
Graviton Fireeater
2 (3%)
Chimera
5 (7.6%)
Catapult
8 (12.1%)
Acceleration
2 (3%)
Graviton Salvager
3 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 33

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:38:07 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Life?

Emerald Dragon
1 (1.6%)
Horned Frog
5 (8.1%)
Rustler
7 (11.3%)
Cockatrice
0 (0%)
Forest Spirit
1 (1.6%)
Heal
7 (11.3%)
Thorn Carapace
5 (8.1%)
Emerald Shield
2 (3.2%)
Druidic Staff
2 (3.2%)
Empathic Bond
6 (9.7%)
Adrenaline
19 (30.6%)
Forest Scorpion
2 (3.2%)
Mitosis
5 (8.1%)

Total Members Voted: 32

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:37:46 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Light?

Photon
2 (3%)
Golden Dragon
0 (0%)
Pegasus
2 (3%)
Holy Light
1 (1.5%)
Solar Shield
3 (4.5%)
Guardian Angel
2 (3%)
Blessing
2 (3%)
Reflective Shield
2 (3%)
Morning Star
5 (7.6%)
Miracle
22 (33.3%)
Luciferin
3 (4.5%)
Hope
11 (16.7%)
Crusader
0 (0%)
Sanctuary
11 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 33

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:37:24 pm

Poll

Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Time?

Deja Vu
1 (1.5%)
Fate Egg
3 (4.5%)
Procrastination
0 (0%)
Reverse Time
11 (16.7%)
Golden Hourglass
3 (4.5%)
Devonian Dragon
1 (1.5%)
Anubis
3 (4.5%)
Eternity
10 (15.2%)
Sundial
8 (12.1%)
Scarab
0 (0%)
Precognition
0 (0%)
Pharaoh
7 (10.6%)
Dune Scorpion
6 (9.1%)
Ghost of the Past
13 (19.7%)

Total Members Voted: 33

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:36:56 pm

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Which 2 cards do you want to ban from Water?

Chrysaora
7 (11.3%)
Blue Crawler
1 (1.6%)
Freeze
4 (6.5%)
Ice Bolt
3 (4.8%)
Ice Shield
6 (9.7%)
Purify
6 (9.7%)
Arctic Squid
11 (17.7%)
Ice Dragon
1 (1.6%)
Toadfish
1 (1.6%)
Mindflayer
5 (8.1%)
Flooding
5 (8.1%)
Steam Machine
8 (12.9%)
Dry Spell
4 (6.5%)

Total Members Voted: 31

Voting closed: March 27, 2014, 09:36:45 pm

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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131343#msg1131343
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2014, 06:57:04 pm »
decks used:

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brimstone phoenixbolt (5x brimstone 1x fireshield) (built, not used)
7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dl 7dn 7dn 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 8po

vamp sader (6x crusader 1x light dragon) (built, not used)
7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jq 7ju 7k5 7k5 7k5 7k5 7k5 7k5 7n2 7n2 7n2 7n2 7tb 7tb 7tb 7tb 7tb 8p

pharaohwave (5x shockwave 1x elite scarab) 1-1
744 744 7n7 7n7 7n7 7n7 7n7 7n8 7n8 7n8 7n8 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q0 7q5 7q5 7q5 7q8 7q8 7q8 7qa 7qc 7qc 7qc 7qc 7qc 8pr
-round 2 game 2 vs deuce WIN vs precog/dial/firebolt (lucky RNG)
-round 3 game 3 vs mathman101 WIN vs monodeath rush (wings > mummy/spider, only 1 poison 2 dragon drawn)

chaos wyrms (5x shockwave 1x micro abomination) 1-1
6rk 6tu 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7ms 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mu 7mu 7mu 7mu 7mu 7mu 7n7 7n7 7n7 7n7 7n7 8pj
-round 1 game 1 vs aves WIN vs fire rush w/precog off mark (5 turn win)
-round 4 game 1 vs odii odsen LOSS vs monotime pharaoh/eternity/turtle

monowater rush (6x abyss, 5x dragon) (not used)
6rk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gm 7gn 7gn 7gn 7gn 7gn 7gt 7gt 7gt 7gt 7gt 7i6 7i6 7i6 7i6 7i6 7i6 8pp

twinned chaos psions (1x micro abomination, 5x twin universe) (not used)
6tu 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 808 80a 80a 80a 80b 80b 80b 80b 80b 80l 80l 80l 80l 80l 80l 8pj

FFQ/bond (3x buckler 3x shockwave) (0-1)
7am 7am 7am 7am 7am 7dl 7dl 7dl 7n3 7n3 7n3 7n3 7n3 7n3 7n5 7n5 7n5 7n7 7n7 7n7 7n9 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 8pn
round 3 game 2 vs mathman101 LOSS vs monofire rush (no CC drawn all game)

firestall vampire style (3x buckler 6x siphon)
7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dl 7dl 7dl 7dn 7dn 7dn 7do 7do 7do 7do 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7tc 7tc 7tc 7tc 7tc 7tc 7td 7td 7td 7td 8pt
-round 2 game 1 vs deuce WIN vs monotime pharaoh (got lucky he had quanta flood, close game)

twinned rubies with bolts (1x brimstone 5x twin universe) (2-1)
7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dh 7di 7di 7di 7di 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dn 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 7f2 80a 80a 80a 80a 80a 80a 80b 80b 80b 80b 80b 8pu
-round 1 game 2 vs aves WIN vs vamp/siphon/shockwave (very close, won due to him not getting enough cc)
-round 3 game 1 vs mathman101  WIN vs water/air toadfish/x deck (OTKed him fearing CC)
-round 4 game 2 vs odii odsen LOSS vs monofire rush (0 cc drawn all game)

air force one (dragon TU blitz) (1x shockwave 5x twin universe) (not used)
7ms 7ms 7ms 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mt 7mv 7mv 7mv 7mv 7mv 7n7 7n9 7n9 7n9 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 7oe 80b 80b 80b 80b 80b 8pu

time 2-0
air 3-2
entropy 1-1
3-1 fire
0-1 life
1-0 dark
2-1 aether

Either going to take an air, darkness, or aether mark for this one.  I already have two time and fire ones, and entropy and life were losses, so that leaves those three, since I didn't use any of the other elements that I need a 2nd mark in.  Couldn't decide, so I rolled 1d3 in chat and got 3, so from air/darkness/aether I'll take an aether one :p

For the meta, the biggest thing for me was the lack of PC other than butterfly effect, so all permanents were very strong.  The lack of quantum pillar, nova, and virtually all healing cards meant stalls were almost impossible, and the large amount of CC still left meant the best strategy in my mind was what I suppose the forum calls a 'domin' deck, so most of my strategies were based around that concept.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131344#msg1131344
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2014, 07:00:42 pm »
Built 3 decks, but only one of them actually won a game, so I'll post that :P
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Went 3-2 and the 2 games it did lose it was 1 turn from winning.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131346#msg1131346
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2014, 07:10:35 pm »
Battle for fifth (ass it turned out) dark ripper 2-1 Fippe94

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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131347#msg1131347
« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2014, 07:20:18 pm »
I built 7 decks, but I only used 3 decks.

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went 2-2, and I think i might have switched 1-2 sw for congeals in 1 game

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went 3-1, and I might have switched another dragon for a pillar in a game

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went 0-1, lost vs wings b/c of low poison and few dragons.


the other decks I built included:
-Twin Fate Eggs
-VaderSaders
-EnrtoLife SemiStall
-Cloaked VampCrawlers
something....something....something.....

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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131348#msg1131348
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2014, 07:20:54 pm »
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Went 1-0.


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Went 4-0.

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Went 3-0.


I built more decks. But played just with them.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131352#msg1131352
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2014, 07:35:42 pm »
I built something like 20 decks for this tourney and picked the best of them imo, used ones:
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Won a difficult game vs asymmetry in round 1
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My beautiful stall,,, lost all 2 games.... didnt expect that, vs asymmetry I was hardcountered with TUpsions and vs mathman, well, I lost to a topdeck exact damage firebolt one  turn before I siphon him to death.
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Won a tough match vs asymmetry.
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aaand unused:
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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131353#msg1131353
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2014, 07:42:30 pm »
odii's 2 main decks were almost identical to mine (but mine were built better :P). RNG had other plans for me. I lost with pharaohs to dragons because i drew pharoahs/precogs slow and he topdecked like a boss.

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Worked perfect in round 1. Unfortunately, I quantafailed hard vs dragon's pharaoh wings, which this should have countered pretty easily.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131355#msg1131355
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2014, 07:47:51 pm »
Yeah, I got pretty lucky against deuce.  I think you'd have had slightly more consistency had you used either a light or time mark (I'd have picked time, since precogs are active, rather than reactive, like sundial, so are usually played earlier and need the quanta first) instead of fire, and then adjusted the quanta base accordingly.  I thought about copying his deck and using it, but in the end I just went with the ones I'd already built last night.  I am surprised you had enough fire quanta with that, though; it seems like you'd take too long getting enough to OTK.  I'm just basing this off of the results of a CL deck I tried earlier this season that is very similar. (6 bolt 6 dial, 3 fahrens, 1 mirror shield, 14 towers, light mark)

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Re: Weekly Tournament - March 29th - All Your Enemy Are Belong To Us - Upgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54105.msg1131359#msg1131359
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2014, 08:26:52 pm »
Yeah, I got pretty lucky against deuce.  I think you'd have had slightly more consistency had you used either a light or time mark (I'd have picked time, since precogs are active, rather than reactive, like sundial, so are usually played earlier and need the quanta first) instead of fire, and then adjusted the quanta base accordingly.  I thought about copying his deck and using it, but in the end I just went with the ones I'd already built last night.  I am surprised you had enough fire quanta with that, though; it seems like you'd take too long getting enough to OTK.  I'm just basing this off of the results of a CL deck I tried earlier this season that is very similar. (6 bolt 6 dial, 3 fahrens, 1 mirror shield, 14 towers, light mark)

yeah, using a time mark may have been better, but the issue comes with the light quanta. Light pends/pills can't boost your fire, which as you pointed out is vital to be able to OTK. Only 7 fire towers could make RNG worse.  I calc'ed 53 fire needed to bolt x6 against 100 HP. Obviously less needed if fahr is up and hitting. In testing, i never had an issue reaching enough to beat wings stalls. Although, I always had reasonable quanta draws in testing.

 

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