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Can we expect you to the tournament?

Yes, this time is usually good for me.
6 (26.1%)
Yes, but usually this time is not good for me.
1 (4.3%)
No, but the time is usually good for me.
3 (13%)
No, this time is usually not good for me at all.
4 (17.4%)
I don't know, but the time seems good on average.
6 (26.1%)
I don't know, but this time is usually not good for me.
3 (13%)

Total Members Voted: 23

Voting closed: February 01, 2015, 11:13:00 am

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Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177389#msg1177389
« on: January 28, 2015, 11:13:00 am »
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Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded
Countering Speedbuild meta, Tournament Organizers: SpikeSpiegel, Submachine, Dm1321 or Zawadx


When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150131T20&p1=%3A

Tournament has started

Where?
Please enter the Tournament room at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts.
Click "Rooms" in the top left to find it.

Rules
Please read the PvP Tournament rules carefully before joining the tournament.
Remember to also read the Special Rules listed below!

Prizes
1st place5,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark + Trophy (Forum Icon)
2nd place3,000 electrum
3rd place2,000 electrum

In case of 32 or more players, tournament prizes will be increased.

Points for the World Championship
1st place4 points
2nd place2 points
3rd place1 point







NOTE: You need just one presentable forum post to be allowed to join tournaments; you can post it here. If this will be your first tournament, a Tournament Organizer will test your knowledge about the rules. So please be present in tournament room 30 minutes before the tournament starts.





Special Rules
  • Always read the second post! It contains equally important information most of the time.
  • Upgraded cards and shards are not allowed.
  • All decks must have a quanta index from 4.8 to 5.2 for every element for which quanta is produced. How to obtain the quanta index for a deck is given in the second post.
  • Cards which create complexities in the Quanta Index formula are all banned. If you could provide an algorithm which could remove the complexity in any of these cards, we'll consider removing that. These cards are listed below:

Spoiler for Banned Cards:
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4vl 52v 55v 568 593 5bv 5ic 5ig 5ij 5io 5ld 5lj 5ls 5um



Tournament Organizers Note

If you think there is an overpowered card that ought to be banned, or you have some concerns about the tournament metagame, mechanics or other stuff, do NOT post it publicly in the comments or anywhere else on the Forums. Instead, send a private message to Tournament Organizers, who will privately discuss about it. Thanks for your cooperation.


« Last Edit: January 29, 2015, 10:48:02 am by Zawadx »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177390#msg1177390
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2015, 11:13:09 am »
The formula for Quanta Index:


QI
Quanta Index
=
Total amount of quanta used to pay for cards + ability costs

Number of pillars in the deck

  • Your deck mark must be counted as a pillar of its element too.
    • Mark cards count as pillars of their respective element.
    • Pendulums count as 0.5 pillars of both their respective element and the element of your mark.
    • Quantum Pillars count as 0.25 pillars of ALL elements.
    • Quanta producing creatures (Gnome Rider, Dragonfly, Firefly) count as pillars of the element of which they produce quanta. Don't forget about their casting costs though!
  • All abilities on your cards count as twice their cost unless stated otherwise. So for every Fallen Elf in your deck, you have to consider 2 :life more cost for Life QI.
    • One-use abilities and Burrow count only once. So every lycanthrope you have will only add 2 :darkness, not 4.
    • If you don't produce any quanta of the element of an ability, then you don't have to consider that ability cost for QI.
  • Cards which use any quanta (those without any quanta icon in their quanta cost) are considered for the QI of ALL the elements for which quanta is produced in your deck. So if you're playing a  :entropy :gravity :life trio with a short sword, you must consider it as a 1:entropy card for entropy QI, a 1 :gravity card for gravity QI and a 1 :life quanta card for life QI.
  • For each Nova, remove one quanta from the total cost of your deck for every element's QI. For Immolation, remove one quanta for every element besides :fire from the total cost; for :fire remove 6 quanta.
  • Butterfly effect counts as 11 :entropy quanta adding the ability cost.

The Quanta Index formula was originally devised by ScaredGirl. If you think that there's any card for which the Quanta Index messes up, please contact the TOs immediately.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2015, 10:45:46 am by Zawadx »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177394#msg1177394
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2015, 11:59:58 am »
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/general-discussion/quantum-index/msg1148374/#msg1148374

This might help.


Not gonna join btw, 10 PM is not such a good time :/

EDIT: Actually, I just realized I'm using the formula a little different, so ignore me to avoid confusion...

Striking the link to avoid confusion.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2015, 12:38:18 pm by iancudorinmarian »

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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177397#msg1177397
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2015, 12:34:57 pm »
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Nope, our method is different. Thanks for posting tho!
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177398#msg1177398
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 12:38:31 pm »
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Nope, our method is different. Thanks for posting tho!
You cut a bit too much :/

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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177400#msg1177400
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 01:43:41 pm »
When you say that the QI has to be between 4.8 and 5.2, is that for each element used or an average of all the elements used?

Also does this old QI tool work for checking decks, or does it use a different formula?


2pm tourney is a good time for me, i should be there  ;D
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177402#msg1177402
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 02:09:43 pm »
When you say that the QI has to be between 4.8 and 5.2, is that for each element used or an average of all the elements used?

Also does this old QI tool work for checking decks, or does it use a different formula?


2pm tourney is a good time for me, i should be there  ;D

Each element for which quanta is produced >.< Forgot to add it in the rules, added now.
And that tool is prolly inconsistent with the rules.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177427#msg1177427
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2015, 08:15:33 pm »
Damn,this game should be fun,not drudgery.
I will join,if i find the time to calculate to infinity.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177428#msg1177428
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2015, 08:25:27 pm »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177436#msg1177436
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2015, 09:44:49 pm »
Damn,this game should be fun,not drudgery.
I will join,if i find the time to calculate to infinity.
This setup was made to teach a bit about the QI theory for people who don't use it yet. It may be frustrating on short terms, but it really helps a lot to you on long terms if you catch the method of it. :) Most of the high-lever PvP-ers use it, like Calindu, majofa, Afdarenty, TheonlyrealBeef, etc.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177438#msg1177438
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2015, 09:51:58 pm »
I've never been the biggest fan of raw QI numbers, but sure, I might give this a try.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 31st - Quantum Index - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57464.msg1177453#msg1177453
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 11:41:50 pm »
Damn,this game should be fun,not drudgery.
I will join,if i find the time to calculate to infinity.
This setup was made to teach a bit about the QI theory for people who don't use it yet. It may be frustrating on short terms, but it really helps a lot to you on long terms if you catch the method of it. :) Most of the high-lever PvP-ers use it, like Calindu, majofa, Afdarenty, TheonlyrealBeef, etc.
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I'm pretty sure mostly the inexperienced people use it. Most high level PvPers know from experience of paying the game for years how much quantum they want in their decks.
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