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Can we expect you to the tournament?

Yes, this time is usually good for me.
4 (21.1%)
Yes, but usually this time is not good for me.
0 (0%)
No, but the time is usually good for me.
2 (10.5%)
No, this time is usually not good for me at all.
5 (26.3%)
I don't know, but the time seems good on average.
6 (31.6%)
I don't know, but this time is usually not good for me.
2 (10.5%)

Total Members Voted: 19

Voting closed: January 25, 2015, 04:48:25 pm

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Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176604#msg1176604
« on: January 21, 2015, 04:48:25 pm »
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Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded
Nicer than ever. Tournament Organizers: SpikeSpiegel, Submachine, Zawadx or Dm1321


When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20150124T12&p1=%3A

Tournament has started

Where?
Please enter the Tournament room at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts.
Click "Rooms" in the top left to find it.

Rules
Please read the PvP Tournament rules carefully before joining the tournament.
Remember to also read the Special Rules listed below!

Prizes
1st place5,000 electrum + Nymph/Mark + Trophy (Forum Icon)
2nd place3,000 electrum
3rd place2,000 electrum

In case of 32 or more players, tournament prizes will be increased.

Points for the World Championship
1st place4 points
2nd place2 points
3rd place1 point







NOTE: You need just one presentable forum post to be allowed to join tournaments; you can post it here. If this will be your first tournament, a Tournament Organizer will test your knowledge about the rules. So please be present in tournament room 30 minutes before the tournament starts.





Special Rules
  • Always read the second post! It contains equally important information most of the time.
  • Upgraded cards are not allowed.
  • Excluding pillars, pendulums and mark cards, your deck should have the same number of cards from front to back, when sorted by standard EtG order. So if you use 3 copies of a card, then 2, then 1; you must then use 1, 2, and 3 copies of whatever other cards you pick.
  • The above is valid for any combination of numbers so long as it has symmetry. e.g. 3-1-2-2-1-3, 4-1-6-1-4, etc.
  • Excluding pillars, pendulums and marks, you must use at least 4 different cards in your deck.
  • You may use a maximum of 4 copies of a shard.




Tournament Organizers Note

If you think there is an overpowered card that should be banned, or you have some concerns about the tournament metagame, mechanics or other stuff, do NOT post it publicly in the comments or anywhere else on the Forums. Instead, send a private message to Tournament Organizers, who will privately discuss about it. Thanks for your cooperation.



Deck Checker for the tournament:

http://etg.dek.im/vanilla/tournament.htm

Special thanks for serprex and Fippe94 for creating this tool and the ruleset checker.





1st: Odii Odsen
2nd: DANIEELA
3rd: montrossen
« Last Edit: January 24, 2015, 02:29:35 pm by Zawadx »
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176605#msg1176605
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 04:48:37 pm »
TOURNAMENTS FAQ


Q: Can you explain better how this symmetry thing works?
A: Sure. If you enter the deck code in the game, it will be sorted by a special order. If we removed all the pillars, pendulums and mark cards, then the deck must be symmetric in that order. Some examples are given below:
Spoiler for Hidden:
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vj 4vj 4vj 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5lj 5lj 5lj 5lj 5lj 61p 61p 61p 8pj

This deck uses a 3-5-6-5-3 combination, and is legal.

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Deck import code : [Select]
4sa 4so 4su 4vc 4vj 52g 53e 55k 568 58o 58v 5bs 5bv 5f0 5f9 5f9 5fu 5i4 5ib 5ib 5l8 5lj 5oc 5om 5rg 5se 5uk 5vi 61o 61u 8pj

This deck has a 1-1-1-1-1-2-1-2-1-1-1-1-1 combination, and so is legal. It doesn't matter how many cards there are, as long as the combination is symmetric. Also, bear in mind how marks, pillars and pends don't count for the combination.

Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4t9 4t9 4t9 4t9 4t9 4t9 4t9 4t9 6rh 6rh 6rh 6rh 6rh 6rh 6rh 6rh 6rh 6ri 6ri 6ri 6ri 6ri 6ri 6ri 6ri 6ri 6ro 6ro 6ro 6ro 6ro 6ro 6ro 6ro 8pm

While this deck uses a 8-9-9-8 combination, it is illegal due to using upgrades. And unobtainable cards.

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4so 4su 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 50a 50a 50a 50u 52g 542 55k 576 58o 5aa 5bs 5de 5f0 5gi 5i4 5jm 5l8 5mq 8pj

While this deck has a 3-6-3 combination, it uses only three different non-pillar cards. So it is illegal.

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Deck import code : [Select]
5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l9 5l9 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 624 624 624 624 624 62m 62m 62m 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pj

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Deck import code : [Select]
5bs 5bs 5bs 5bv 5bv 5bv 5c9 5c9 5c9 5c9 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lj 5lj 5lj 5lj 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rr 5rr 8pj

While the above decks look nice and have elemental symmetry, they are not symmetric by card codes. So not legal.

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Deck import code : [Select]
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 5lj 5lj 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5od 5od 61p 61p 61p 61p 61p 61p 8pj

The combination is 6-2-5-2-6... wait a minute! If you sort by card code, Rustler comes before Luciferin. This deck is definitely not legal, since once sorted it is no longer symmetric:
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 4vq 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5lj 5lj 5od 5od 61p 61p 61p 61p 61p 61p 8pj




Q: Are there any banned cards?
A: Nope. We're nice. (If you believe a card is OP in the meta and should be banned, please contact TOs)


Q: Are there any restrictions to what elements I can use?
A: Nah, we're really nice.


Q: Why are the rules so confusing? ;-;
A: Really? It is only 10 lines of JavaScript. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176612#msg1176612
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 05:24:43 pm »
This might be harder than it sounds. Not sure if I can be here this time.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176618#msg1176618
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 07:17:55 pm »
No, this time is usually not good for me at all. :-*
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176629#msg1176629
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 10:07:16 pm »
Ermagerd, I can participate in this one!
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176643#msg1176643
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 11:32:47 pm »
Sounds interesting. I'd like to see what kinds of decks people make with this
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176663#msg1176663
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 01:41:41 am »
so put in simpler times the first element in the bazaar order must use the same number of cards from the last element in bazaar order. aka 5 aboms means 5 sparks are also needed these rules seem rather complicated to me though of course I probably won't be there my drive for elements is declining rapidly.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176782#msg1176782
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2015, 05:07:50 pm »
I think I'll take part in it.

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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176868#msg1176868
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 07:52:10 am »
so put in simpler times the first element in the bazaar order must use the same number of cards from the last element in bazaar order. aka 5 aboms means 5 sparks are also needed these rules seem rather complicated to me though of course I probably won't be there my drive for elements is declining rapidly.

Not the same no. of cards from each element, but the same no. of cards for first and last card in bazaar order. You can use the deck checker to be sure.
I tried to simplify what I thought was an interesting ruleset, so sad to hear that :c
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176948#msg1176948
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2015, 12:11:00 am »
Is there a minimum number of decks we need to make?  Or if we create one that is legal, we can play that for all games/rounds?
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176953#msg1176953
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2015, 12:46:01 am »
Is there a minimum number of decks we need to make?  Or if we create one that is legal, we can play that for all games/rounds?
You can use the same deck throughout tourney, aye.
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Re: Weekly Tournament - January 24th - Symmetricity - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=57424.msg1176967#msg1176967
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2015, 03:04:30 am »
If I'm not there, it means I couldn't wake up early enough. I have like 3 decks. I'm so pro.
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