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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344437#msg344437
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2011, 04:31:27 pm »
what happens if a graboid that evolves into a shrieker... is reversed time? lol.

technically shrieker is banned. can u play the card as a result of RT?

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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344442#msg344442
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2011, 04:38:32 pm »
Bans are obviously only relevant when building decks.
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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344444#msg344444
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2011, 04:39:21 pm »
what happens if a graboid that evolves into a shrieker... is reversed time? lol.

technically shrieker is banned. can u play the card as a result of RT?
Yes. banned just means you can't have a copy in your deck.

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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344450#msg344450
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2011, 04:42:52 pm »
Bans are obviously only relevant when building decks.
okay. thanks for the info :)

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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344489#msg344489
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2011, 06:20:01 pm »
Updated with a couple bans to discourage stalls: Fire Shield, Thorn Carapace, Fire Bolt, Ice Bolt, Drain Life.
What about rage potions?

EDIT: Nevermind. Rage potions are not relevant to stalls.

EDIT 2: What about ice shields then? And Pharaohs? (regardless of stalls, just because of cost)

EDIT 3:
Huh.. so you came to that conclusion by half-reading a sentence in the FAQ that speaks of the original idea?
The only bans are listed. It's that simple.
Ok. I didn't say anything. :-X

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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344501#msg344501
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2011, 06:48:53 pm »
Seems like a novagrabby & counters tourney.  Maybe ban nova & black hole?

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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344515#msg344515
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2011, 07:25:53 pm »
All weapons are allowed, although they sometimes cost >4 quanta ? And Flying weapon is not banned.
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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344542#msg344542
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2011, 08:09:12 pm »
All weapons are allowed, although they sometimes cost >4 quanta ? And Flying weapon is not banned.
As has been pointed out numerous times in this thread:

Only creatures which cost 4 or more quanta are banned by default.  The only other cards to be banned are those which interfere with the "Swarm" theme significantly.  Flying Weapon is not banned, yes, why do you think it should be?
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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344604#msg344604
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2011, 09:29:54 pm »
I think this is the complete list of creatures.
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you're missing a few.  i think he said he was allowing creature spawning creatures, which would add pharaoh and firefly queen


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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344619#msg344619
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2011, 09:47:56 pm »
The first four decks in the unupped PvP Decks Archive are usable, which against my better judgement convinces me to support a Nova ban. I've been Swarmed by Graboid and Co. quite often already, a change of pace would be nice - this tourney has a lot of potential in it yet!

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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344664#msg344664
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2011, 10:32:27 pm »
The first four decks in the unupped PvP Decks Archive are usable, which against my better judgement convinces me to support a Nova ban. I've been Swarmed by Graboid and Co. quite often already, a change of pace would be nice - this tourney has a lot of potential in it yet!
You just gave away perfectly good decks to use for the tourny...

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Re: Eastern Tournament - June 4th - Heart of the Swarm - Unupgraded https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27064.msg344679#msg344679
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2011, 10:45:38 pm »
Not really. They are all countered by the same stuff. And all of the decks in the unupped pvp archive (mine included) aren't quite perfect, at least from my experience.
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