Eastern Tournament - 23 October 2010 - unupgraded - Menagerie

[Rastafla]

Eastern Tournament - 23 October 2010 - unupgraded - Menagerie
Organizer: Rastafla or Jumbalumba


When?
To find out your local time, check this link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=23&month=10&year=2010&hour=5&min=0&sec=0&p1=0

Tournament has started

Where?
Please enter Elements Chat (http://elementschat.co.cc/chat.php) "Tournament Room" at least 15 minutes before the tournament starts.


Rules
Please read PvP Tournament rules (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6997.0.html) carefully before signing up.


Special Rules
Only unupgraded cards allowed.
Any mark.
Only creatures and pillars/pendulums allowed
Can only use one element once per round so you need 3 decks with different elements in each.

Brackets


Dragoon1140
bioglond
nilsieboy
mrpaper

[5pla5h]

lol
*grabs shrieker deck*

no pun intended

[dexterkwan]

Um, i need to comfirm soemthing. can i use air nymph? because they produce UG which is not a creature. And i also like to comfirm, example i use a death deck with lets say gravity mark(deathstalkers momentum) and i use umm maybe time dec with gravity mark next battle against my opponent(dune scorps momentum...) is it ok to repeat the mark?

[twinsbuster]

Can only use one element once per round so you need 3 decks with different elements in each.

this rule is quite confusing.
so we can just change the mark and change some pillars with the same deck?
cannot use same mark although the decks are totally different?

[twinsbuster]

Um, i need to comfirm soemthing. can i use air nymph? because they produce UG which is not a creature. And i also like to comfirm, example i use a death deck with lets say gravity mark(deathstalkers momentum) and i use umm maybe time dec with gravity mark next battle against my opponent(dune scorps momentum...) is it ok to repeat the mark?

no momentum is allowed.

[dexterkwan]

ok sorry, i just wanna know if we can use the same mark. sorry for the confusing example, but how bout the air nymph? and duos?

[Simo145]

Rules are simple, if you use  in 1st match then you can't use  until you get second round

example: 1st round:
                 1st match: 
                 2nd match:
                 3rd round: 

not allowed: 1st round:
                         1st match:     
                         2nd match: : 
                         3rd round: :   
                         
                      1st round:
                          1st match:   
                          2nd match: 
                          3rd round:   

[GG]

Rules are simple, if you use  in 1st match then you can't use  until you get second round

example: 1st round:
                 1st match: 
                 2nd match:
                 3rd round: 

not allowed: 1st round:
                         1st match:     
                         2nd match: : 
                         3rd round: :   
                         
                      1st round:
                          1st match:   
                          2nd match: 
                          3rd round:   

makes sense, but what if someone decides to go rainbow with all 12 elements, or use some weird 6-element semi rainbow for the first two rounds? according to the rules, since the person used all elements, s/he has no deck to play afterwards.

the rule needs a fix. change it to mark or primary element (the element with the most cards in deck) or something.

[asymmetry]

No restrictions as regards "Other" cards? Thanks in advance.

[Rooftrellen]

If someone uses a 12 element rainbow, they lose, because they have no decks to play after.  Why would that be a problem?

A couple of weeks ago, you had to have opposing elements, and use a different deck every duel.  If you had only one deck, you lost your next duel.

In this case, you cannot reuse the same element twice in a round.  If you can't build decks to do that, you will lose, again.  That doesn't seem to be a problem, just a part of the rules.

As for the mark, as I struggled with in my first tourney, it seems that marks are not part of the deck, and, as such, don't follow the rules of not repeating, (just like in the duality tournament, you could use earth/air with time mark), so I would assume you could use, say, earth with a time mark, then time with a time mark here, since the mark isn't part of the deck, and, so, not an element that you are using.

However, confirmation would be nice, since, as I said, I struggled with this in my first tourney.

[Higurashi]

makes sense, but what if someone decides to go rainbow with all 12 elements, or use some weird 6-element semi rainbow for the first two rounds? according to the rules, since the person used all elements, s/he has no deck to play afterwards.

the rule needs a fix. change it to mark or primary element (the element with the most cards in deck) or something.

Then they lose. Why is that a problem, and why would the rules need a fix? You have 12 elements to work with, here. There's not even any need for rainbows.

However, confirmation would be nice, since, as I said, I struggled with this in my first tourney.

Says "Any mark" in the rules. Should be as clear as it can be.

ok sorry, i just wanna know if we can use the same mark. sorry for the confusing example, but how bout the air nymph? and duos?

Any mark at any time. Any creatures. What they produce or turn into is irrelevant. If you use a duo, you can't use those two Elements in the same round again.
You have to have three different decks that do not share any Element. Ability costs and marks do not define the Elements of a deck, nor does it define whether it's a mono/duo/trio, etc.

[1chase1997]

ima use a 10 element rainbow so i can use a mono air/mono darkness