Round 9

[PlayerOa]

We're in Top 4 together with , and , huzzah!

Spoils (round 1-7, not updated with R8 yet): http://titanpad.com/spoilsofvictory

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Proposal:
Death: 2 Ghosts, 2 Golden Nymphs, 2 Arsenic

Life: 1 Nova, 4 Graboid, 1 Golden Nymph

[TheonlyrealBeef]

We still need at least 1 more Time Factory and could definitely use 0-3 more Hourglasses. We already have 3 Arsenic, and I don't think any amount beyond 4 (3 in PDials, 1 in bow) is useful. So I'd rather see 1 Arsenic replaced with a Time Factory at least.

Because we are barely under the 4 player limit (\o/ poor Gravity getting Aether twice xD) I expect us to face each team exactly once, although I'd like to wait until I see the other teams' full spoils, it's something to keep in mind. Only alternative is Air getting a bye and us facing Aether twice as well... not something I'd like to see.

[PlayerOa]

PlayerOa vs mrpaper
TheonlyrealBeef vs deuce22
andretimpa vs hainkarga


Some thoughts on current vault, based on intelligence: (thanks timpa!)

Aether:

The team to beat. With a ~25% bigger vault than us sane elements, they are a hard team to beat, with a very varied card pool without any big flaws. They've got a bit of everything, combined with 12 copies of all the essential aether cards.

Decks to watch out for: MA (dims, psiontal, mix), Bonebolt, Grabbow (PU or normal), Fractix, RoLHope, Chargertal, Sancstall, RT splash

Air:

They've got a solid mono, with solid cards. Something to notice, though: No wings nor UG. They have packed five blue nymphs, though. Beware. Full of dragons and stall cards.

Their out-of-element card pool is not that varied, though. They do have the cards to play whatever aether duo they want - Dragontal, PUGons, Fractal Damselflies, Dimshield domin, and anything in-between. They also got some dials for Blue nymph UG rush, Sancs+miracles for Sancstall, and Deflags to complement the nymphs. They can salvage some novas, but no other interesting grabbow cards without ditching the novas (except for some EQs).

Gravity:

Gravity has a solid vault. One thing stroke my mind immediately, though. They have just 4 Gravity pillars. This means they are prone to EQs. However, they can get 12 more pillars from transmuting.

They've got a varied out-of-element vault. They can make an extremely tough DBHbow, normal DBH, sancstall (w/out Miracle!), flying Gavels (wat), and some random splash decks. Notice they have only 3 dimshields, but they also are in possession of 4 wings.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I'm personally thinking Grabow and Bonebolt from Aether mainly, though the question is: which one goes where? For Bonebolt some bow would probably do best whilst PDials should be good vs Grabow if it contains a bunch of BWs. Note that with good I essentially mean as good as we can do with our spoils, not that win% is significantly above 50% xP

With all you said Ghostmare seems like a really obvious choice vs air, I like it

[andretimpa]

Air could still get wings and UGs from transmutes when putting this round's spoils in their vault so if we use ghostmare packing steals is a good idea. It would also help in case they bring sancts.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

is running short so I'll just go ahead and build the decks I mentioned from spoils. I'm assuming Aether will use Bonebolt with general for the upgraded Poisons and arses. Leaving paper with a Grabow, possibly with extra upgrades, definitely with 3 pc cards, 1 upped steal and 2 explosions. And still pdials? Yes, probably best option, can use ups for deadly poisons and arses. They have to save their pc for dials leaving arses free to poke their... arses :x

Was totally thinking all steals in the Ghostmare both cause no nymphs to use a lot of time quanta on and because of Fog/Owl etcetera too.

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[PlayerOa]

Why not play a normal Pharaohbow vs aether instead of that hybridbow? Should do better in most (all) cases with Discords, especially vs Bonebolt to slow down BWs - something like this?

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Btw TorB, are you doing the formalities (submitting decks etc etc)? I will only be online in intervals today, so.. Not like I've done that too much anyway, I'd likely mess up at some point xD

[PlayerOa]

Also: spoils - does this sound better?

Death: 1 Ghost, 2 Golden Nymphs, 1 Arsenic, 1 Time Factory, 1 HG

Life: 1 Nova, 4 Graboid, 1 Golden Nymph

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Quicksand vs Aether is a dead card. Especially vs deuce. He'll just triple mark quadruple pillar split or something. I'd much rather have another pillar, especially when adding 2 nymphs. In fact I'd replace one of the nymphs with another pillar, too. No thanks, 0-2 vs elders cause not enough creatures -_- I put in shittons of time quanta to not get outrushed by a single upped arse... again :x

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Something like this then, maybe.

Tested some with andretimpa with various versions... all quite failing when bonebolt in hands of skilled player, so Grabow hax here we go~

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...which fails even more. Damn you arse y u so OP.

[andretimpa]

We are keeping Pharaohbow, after we remembered has only 1 arse in their vault, so they can't field a bonebolt with 3 upped arses, like we were testing against.