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Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52636.msg1112185#msg1112185
« on: November 27, 2013, 01:17:39 pm »
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every non-pend + 1 pend
transmute 2 fire shields to 2 reverse time
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2 Eternity
4 Golden Hourglass
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every non-pillar/pend
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2 lightning to 2 reverse time
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0-3 Electrum Hourglasses, 1 Arsenic and ~18 quanta generators for fielding PDials/EQ splash + Pharaohbow + Ghostmare + Ghostal. Recommend ~12 more quanta generators for each additional deck we are forced to field in round 9+.
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Everything but 2 ghosts and 2 Nightmares

This way we will have 6 RTs (after transmutes and discarding), 8 ghosts, 3 Steals, plenty of Vampire Stilettos and 4 Nightmares
We can build:
1-2 Fire duo(s second being with bolts mostly); Ghostmare; RoL Hope; Poison + BW splash, add Hourglasses and Eternity or something as time cards to Poison deck with mostly time pends, really no Ghosts to spare for it and dragons too expensive. Also have possibility of EQ splash if we want to surprise Gravy or something.
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Re: Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52636.msg1112189#msg1112189
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 01:32:07 pm »
We can also build Mono Time, but many of our decks are superior atm. We'll see when we get the matchups.
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Re: Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52636.msg1112194#msg1112194
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 01:55:27 pm »
The spoils are switched.
Every time a graboid evolves, an elemental gets his wings.
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Re: Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52636.msg1113091#msg1113091
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2013, 08:39:23 am »
The spoils are switched.
Fixed that as soon as I read that.

Anyway, matchups!
Added some thoughts with them. I went for the win it all strategy, sacrificing relics or whatever else is needed to win every single match xD

PlayerOa vs :light (Submachine)
Thinking Ghostmare, don't want to go Fire duo twice and they'll never see it coming (everyone presumes Ghostmare dead) Fractal Archangel/Dim deck they won with should be a cakewalk with this.

TheonlyrealBeef vs :aether (Kakerlake)
RoL Hope with 2 Light Nymphs; 2 HGs, 1 Eternity, 13 pends and a Miracle?
Lt + 1 relic (hgs)

andretimpa vs :gravity (suxerz)
Fire duo with extra speed (6 MPs for extra relics is an option). Reduce Deflags to 3-4.

Dm1321 vs :earth (omegareaper7)
Poison duo, 3 relics to up both arses and poisons. Not going to lose a possible mirror match again.

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Re: Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52636.msg1113165#msg1113165
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2013, 08:17:43 pm »
Alright, finally this new round is up :)

:light - Sure, they won't expect it. As long as Light doesn't go full stall, we should take the win (+eternity?? I think that can work here).

:aether - Seems good. Only have to hope they don't bring a counter.. which i don't expect.

:gravity - Yep, sure. If we can find a way to use less relics, though, I'm open for it :P

:earth - Risky, but might pay off. I also think an EQ splash would do well, we should test some
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Re: Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52636.msg1113315#msg1113315
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2013, 09:38:06 pm »
Are we using the EC for the match against :light ?

I played around with this version of the fire duo (2 relics)

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It seems to work against their arse/bonewall deck. The deflags should counter catapult decks too. It it fast enough to be competitive against chargertal? Maybe an extra hourglass is good adition?
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Re: Round 7 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52636.msg1113432#msg1113432
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Are we using the EC for the match against :light ?

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It seems to work against their arse/bonewall deck. The deflags should counter catapult decks too. It it fast enough to be competitive against chargertal? Maybe an extra hourglass is good adition?
Don't really have a lot of hourglasses and it already looks too heavy on :time as is. Did you try more pillars instead of pends? No need for this many pends when Phoenixes are upgraded (guess I'll try it while making decks that fit vault).

Honestly didn't even look at EC yet <_< Light sounds good. EC can and will make all the difference.

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Eternity on top of 2 Vampire Daggers may seem weird, but Eternity is only there for late game, Vampire Dagger for early game (asap). You don't want to bother with the ridiculous time quanta costs instead of playing ghosts.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2013, 08:40:28 pm »
Two thoughts of mine:

 - Ghostmare seems quite low on time quanta: imo -1 pend +1 pillar.
 - Death Duo is overquanta'd in time. Playtested a bit, I seem to like -1 pend +1 devonian dragon.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2013, 09:49:19 pm »
- Ghostmare seems quite low on time quanta: imo -1 pend +1 pillar.
Well, the time I tested I finished with craptons of quanta for not drawing nymphs iirc, but I guess it's possible just need to tinker around with... well everything.
- Death Duo is overquanta'd in time. Playtested a bit, I seem to like -1 pend +1 devonian dragon.
It is, I just don't think you get to play the Dragon in time? If you play Hourglass that already sucks up all your time quanta for quite a lot of turns and if that isn't enough I figured ramping damage like pharaoh would be needed, but eh, guess it can be done.

 

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