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Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1110917#msg1110917
« on: November 21, 2013, 02:06:47 am »
We're getting 5 tough matchups -_-
Here they are including my initial thoughts.

PlayerOa vs :darkness (Bogtro)
I'm thinking Ghostmare, sacrifice 3 ups, no perms, 4 steals min.
TheonlyrealBeef vs :light (furkannnO)
Fire Duo? Seems good vs their stall-ish decks. Most they have are stall-based from what I can see.
andretimpa vs :entropy (majofa)
Grabow and pandebones, RoL Hope too slow and vulnerable vs EQs, EQs useless vs both, Ghostmare too slow/hard countered... this leaves... a different Darkness-based deck.
Dm1321 vs :aether (Gen deuce)
Suicide. Sacrifice 3 ups.
S2xaT5No vs :death (xyan)
RoL Hope

Netto: -6 ups, +3 relics

Grabboquake/RoL Hope/Weird new-found Darkness deck for Entropy/Death, not sure what else they have and used etc last rounds or how well it will fare against these decks. Note that I'd like a Light Nymph and an Eternity in RoL Hope regardless, possibly even -1 Light Dragon, +1 Time Pendulum, +2 Sanct to deal with Poison better if need be... Give Lt to one with RoL Hope.

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Resurrect Grabboquake from this, 1 grabby, but Shriekers will have to compensate I guess? Grab Gavel for that, too.
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We could make a Darkness splash with Devs (off-mark ironically), Drains and 2 Vampire Daggers. Drains would help vs Poison or even as CC whilst Devs murder mark splashing or low quanta decks.
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111002#msg1111002
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 01:50:40 pm »
-very- unsure if sending a suicide vs aether is a good idea. Might be our only option, though… :/

RoLHope to death seems good, so does Ghostmare to darkness. The Ultimate as an option for Entropy? Not that we'll beat any other of their decks with something other.. Oh, and. An Eclipse in that deck would be awesomesauce. Not sure how to get place for it, though. I'm pretty sure Entropy will play pandebonium this round too, and an Eclipse would help a good lot.

Fire duo vs Air… unsure. Maybe in lack of other options. We can also play Ghostmare vs Entropy (yes, ghostmare vs pandebonium can be a win - and it wasn't -that- RNG dependent). I need to think some more.
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111008#msg1111008
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 02:27:50 pm »
-air +light. Things have gotten easier, and Fire duo should do even better against them: tested vs Siphonary and with some smart Deflagging easy win, may want to pvp test vs a variant with 2 steals they used once if you want to be sure. Keep 5 Deflags in them and Dims are a joke, Phoenixes > lightnings from their PUgons where Turtles cuts their damage by half and Deflags is so troll on pillars/pends vs their quanta heavy deck ^^
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111226#msg1111226
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2013, 08:59:30 pm »
Something more on the suicide. I would rather suicide versus light than aether. We cannot let them aether become much stronger - I'd rather take a 5th place saying that we tried to win, other than taking the honorable 4th place.

Not sure on what we should send against aether, though - Earthquakes should be out of the picture assuming deuce will upgrade some pillars. We could do some testing with Ghostmare, perfectly possible it'll beat some decks, as Psital and Grabbow.

Oh, and.. Anyone else (other than TorB) with feedback? I'll accept any form of feedback with open arms, as we need it atm.
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111228#msg1111228
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2013, 09:10:33 pm »
I was actually thinking about our :aether and :entropy matches. I don't think we have a realistic chance of beating both of them and I like our odds better with ghostmare against :aether than anything we can build against :entropy. :light should be our easier match, no reason to suicide against them. Anyway, I think that if we suicide it should be against :entropy or :death, since we have very little to counter them and I'd rather maximize our wins than trying to prevent our opponents from winning (S2 doesn't have a nymph so countering poison would be harder with RoL/Hope, we could keep the deck and try to use it next round with the nymph).
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111326#msg1111326
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2013, 10:34:10 am »
That sounds like an idea. There are definitely much better chances beating :death than :entropy, so we should consider sending the suicide vs them.

That leaves:
:darkness Ghostmare
:aether Ghostmare
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111334#msg1111334
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2013, 01:12:33 pm »
Aight, since we already have 3 decks, here are my ideas on the other 2 remaining decks:
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111341#msg1111341
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2013, 01:45:35 pm »
-1 Vagger +1 Steal? I think we'll need 'em, especially versus a likely MA.

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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111352#msg1111352
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2013, 03:22:40 pm »
Sorry for double posting, but we have one job left - spoils.

We get no tasty new cards to spoils, so I propose this:

Earth:
3 Earth Pendulum -> 3 Sundial
3 Earthquake

Darkness:
1 Vampire Dagger
2 Steal
3 Dark Pendulum -> 3 Sundial
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111368#msg1111368
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2013, 05:31:56 pm »
Oh, I was thinking of Grabow, Fractix or Poison something something, with Vamp Dagger OP that alone could win half the match or something xD
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Don't we already have, like, 6 Sundials, a complete ghostmare and 4-6 Dims in spoils? Let's not add more cards with the same weakness :P

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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111391#msg1111391
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2013, 08:05:21 pm »
I think we are missing just the Pharaohs for completing a Pharaohbow.
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Re: Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52525.msg1111534#msg1111534
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 12:22:39 pm »
Guess I was wrong about the sundials, added them to spoils :P
I think we are missing just the Pharaohs for completing a Pharaohbow.
I'm thinking 5 Steals is overdoing it, so made one of those a Pharaoh, will need 2 Pharaohs, 4-7 Electrum Hourglasses, 0-2 Procrastination/Bone Wall, 1-2 Eternities, 3 Arsenic and ~18 quanta generators for fielding PDials/EQ splash + Pharaohbow + Ghostmare + Ghostal. Recommend ~12 more quanta generators for each additional deck we are forced to field in round 9+.

 

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