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Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg325858#msg325858
« on: May 03, 2011, 03:38:39 pm »
Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging 2 win x 6 cards = 12 cards
4 x Dimension Shield
2 x Black Dragon
2 x Purify
4 x Nova

Discarding 5 loss x 24 cards = 120 cards
4 Time Factory
2 Anubis
4 Ghost otP
10 Time Pendulum
4 Dim Shield
8 Time Factory
3 Devonian Dragon
4 Time Pendulum
3 Black Dragon
4 Reverse Time
2 Steal
2 Crusader
4 Sanctuary
3 Time Factory
2 Procrastination
3 Eternity
10 Time Pendulum
3 discord
2 Graboid
6 Time Factory
4 Deja-vu
2 Devonian
1 Steal
6 Nova
8 Time Factory
4 Time Pendulum
4 Steal
4 Nightmare
4 Ghost of the Past
Penalties 0 cards
none

Converting max 24 cards

+ 14 Time Factory
+ 10 Time Pendulum
- 3 Procrastination
- 2 Dune Scorpion
- 2 Quintessence
- 2 Miracle
- 2 Dusk Mantle
- 1 Lycanthrope
- 4 Chaos Seed
- 4 Nova
- 4 Pandemonium


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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg325859#msg325859
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2011, 03:39:28 pm »
Victory: salvage 6 cards

(Time) Crimsonflippa 2 - (Darkness) Suxerz 0
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5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ur 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 621
(time) DevilLoss 2- (water) aznkid66 0
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52l 52l 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5i4 5i4 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ie 5ie 5ie 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg325860#msg325860
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2011, 03:40:55 pm »
Defeat: discard 24 cards

(Light) valuka 2 - (Time) SnoWeb 0
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rn 5rn 5rn 5rn 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t
(Gravity) Lt. TStar 2 - (Time) Lt. Jen-i 1
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5rm 5t2 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 7ri 7ri 7ri
(entropy) Lt. vagman13 2 - 1 (Time)(Sub) Azumi
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5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rj 5ro 5ro 5ro 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
(Death) Gen. MrBlonde 2 - (Gravity) (Sub) Gen. SpikeSiegel
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4vl 4vl 4vl 55v 55v 55v 590 590 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rm 5rm 5rn 5rn 5rs 5up 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3
(Aether) Lt. pikachufan2164 2 - (Time) (Sub) drogana 0
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg328144#msg328144
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 04:35:08 am »
ok crazy idea but here i go hope you can all follow.

from crimsons win we salvage 3 black dragons 3 dim shields
then from jen-i deck we discard all but the 6 devourers

then from my win we salvage the 4 nova's and 2 whatever (there gonna get converted anyways)

ok so then from spikes deck we discard 4 nova's and then w/e

snowebs we salvage nightmares and steals.

thats all i got so far the reason for the jen-i crimson salvage is to keep the dev stall deck its powerful i mean we bearly lost to a DISCORD+BLACKHOLE DECK!!!! so if we use it right we can win and maybe slow down are defeat.
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg328189#msg328189
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 07:17:17 am »
I think we should wait to see what are our opponents before we take any decision.
However, here are some thoughts:
    we can finally salvage some purify. It means (as we still have the scarabs from Gl1tch's deck, the fractals and the nova in the vault) that we can rebuild a versatile fractal scarabs. Could be very nice against  :death :water :life or :air.the underworld team will play next round. We might want to save our black-holes from Spikes deck. Also, We could think of a :gravity/ :time use both Pharaoh (left from Gl1tch's deck) and momentum(ed) dunes.The egyptian control is pretty screwed as it is. We either loose the lightnings or the Anubis. I would salvage 6 dim shields from Suxerz deck and keep the Anubis from mine. We could do the CC part with RT and eternities. The other solution is to drop the whole aether story and to focuss on saving something else (on the darkside maybe).We will probably have to drop most crusaders (which basically kills the deck).We will also loose a lot of darkness cards which also means our second nightghost.

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg328337#msg328337
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 03:25:53 pm »
well so far are best decks as they stand are

blessed dune scorps
night ghost
super charged pharohs

we can salvage cards to make these decks
dev stall-as i explained before
enternal crusader varient-salvage 4 crusaders 2 sacts from the deck that lost we should have left over eternities
egyptian control varient- pretty much what snoweb said but we can salvage 3 dims? 3 anubis or 4 dims 2 anubis and keep the gotp that we still have inside the deck
fractal nova scarab- we can makea  varient with purify's and blackholes ? could defintly use some work but i think it a big possibility.
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg328436#msg328436
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 06:45:55 pm »
Hi guys - I'm still gonna be busy for the next couple days - but here's what I've got for salvage:

Salvage:
3 Black Dragon
3 Dimensional Shield
4 Nova
2 Purify

Discard:
4 Time Factory
3 Anubis
4 Ghost of the Past
10 Pendulum
3 Dimensioinal Shield

8 Time Factory
4 Reverse Time
3 Devonian Dragon
4 Time Pendulum
3 Black Dragon
2 Steal

6 Sanctuary
3 Time Factory
2 Procrastination
3 Eternity
10 Time Pendulum

1 Discord
1 Black Hole
1 Graboid
1 Anubis
4 Deja-vu
6 Nova
2 Devonian Dragon
1 Pharaoh
1 Steal
6 Time Factory

8 Time Factory
4 Time Pendulum
2 Steal
4 Nightmare
2 Ghost of the Past
4 Reverse Time

Conversion:
2 Quintessence + 2 Dusk Mantle + 4 Chaos Seed -> 8 Time Factory
4 Pandamonium + 2 Reflective Shields + 1 Crusader -> 7 Time Pendulum


While I'm not totally happy with this set up it does leave us a fair bit of flexibility - This is what decks are still in the vault:
Night Ghost
Miracle in the Desert or Eternal Crusader (only 1 at a time)
Nova-Fractal-Scarabs
Egyptian Control
Devourer Stall
Some sort of nova bow
Some sort of Pharaoh-gravity deck

I think I'd like to pick one of these decka dn lose the pieces to save some parts for other decks
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg328637#msg328637
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2011, 12:25:18 am »
we could lose the pharoh gravity deck to gain more pends and pillars.
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg329529#msg329529
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2011, 04:25:21 pm »
Hello anyone out there we need this stuff updated im not able to do this so jen can u since i havent seen sno in forever. And we need vault updated Azumi <--- can u still do this your still part of them team even if your gone, or jen can you. We need to stay on top of this guys i feel if we do well enough with what we got we can defintlily make it to round 7. :)
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg329650#msg329650
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2011, 08:22:46 pm »
Hey DL
I just finished the presentation of my project i'll be around tomorrow to help. Don't worry about Snow he is unavailable on weekends. I'll be back tommorrow - I'm running on 7 hours sleep since thursday I need sleep
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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg329920#msg329920
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 07:28:20 am »
Salvage:
    Suxerz: 4 Dim Shields, 2 Black Dragonaznkid66: 2 Purify, 4 Nova
Discard:
deckSnoWebJen-iAzumiSpikeDrogana
keep2 Anubis
4 Lightnings
6 Devourer4 Crusader
2 Sanctuary
3 Black Hole
2 Anubis
1 Pharaoh
2 Ghost of the Past
4 Reverse Time
discard4 Time Factory
2 Anubis
4 Ghost otP
10 Time Pendulum
4 Dim Shield
8 Time Factory
3 Devonian Dragon
4 Time Pendulum
3 Black Dragon
4 Reverse Time
2 Steal
2 Crusader
4 Sanctuary
3 Time Factory
2 Procrastination
3 Eternity
10 Time Pendulum
3 discord
2 Graboid
6 Time Factory
4 Deja-vu
2 Devonian
1 Steal
6 Nova
8 Time Factory
4 Time Pendulum
4 Steal
4 Nightmare
4 Ghost of the Past
Conversion:
+ 20 Time Factory
+ 4 Time Pendulum
- 3 Procrastination
-2 Dune Scorpion
2 Quintessence
2 Miracle
2 Dusk Mantle
1 Lycanthrope
4 Chaos Seed
4 Nova
4 Pandemonium
Notes:
    I adapted the Upper post with my modificationsI also adapted the TDU (
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Auo1gMP5ebg0dFZBQXl2OWt4M0QwWGt4VUF3LWZaNGc&authkey=CJbr5q0K&hl=en#gid=4) with itIf you disagree with me (which I expect and wait for) please make you suggestions based on my post (now in the OP) as following:
Discard, Deck Azumi, Keep +2 crusader -2 sanctuary, Discard -2 crusader +2 sanctuary, explanation (for example).The vault is not adapted yet![/list]

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Re: Round 4 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25547.msg330007#msg330007
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 03:12:40 pm »
Spike -1 Black Hole - 1 Pharaoh +2 nova
I don't think we need 4 Black Hole in the vault - I think we should be fine with 3
I think Pharaoh's are nice but we can afford to lose one
I'd rather have 12 Nova in the vault than 10

Don't worry - I'll make sure the Vault is done

Edit: Damn it - I just noticed you converted the extra nova anyways! Fine then - I've got no stupid argument with you - sounds fine to me
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