Round 5 - Strategy

[Xinef]

  Xinef vs nilsieboy          air deck with EE, air pendulums and time mark

  Dragoon vs MrBlonde          entropy deck

  Brion vs 5pla5h          -

  Valuka vs Asymmetry          -

  Belthazar666 vs hrmmm          aether deck (scarabs, fractals, phase shields)

  Smokefree vs Korugar          darkness deck

  edunavas vs Boingo          fire or gravity deck

[Dragoon]

My thoughts (with rough deck ideas):

  Xinef vs nilsieboy

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5of 5og 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5ro 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr
  Dragoon vs MrBlonde

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4vd 4vd 4vd 4vf 4vf 4vl 4vl 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rr 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

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4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rs 5rs 5rs 5rs 5rs 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2I have a feeling he might try to use their EQ deck to counter the Fractal deck we used against him.  If we had Pendulums to spare, I'd replace those Precogs with them.
  Brion vs 5pla5h

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rr 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2Same deck used by Smokefree from last round.

  Valuka vs Asymmetry

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4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 55k 55k 55k 55k 55v 55v 55v 55v 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5ro 5rs 5rs 5rs 5rs 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2

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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5rm 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61u 622Use Dim Shields to stall.  Lobo to stop them from using that Hope deck against us.  Play 1 Dragon early and then Fractal when you can one shot kill him or right after he Miracles.
  Belthazar666 vs hrmmm

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576 576 576 576 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rj 5rq 5rq 5rq 5rq 5rq 5rr 5t2 5t2 5t2 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 622Same deck you used last round.

  Smokefree vs Korugar

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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rl 5rl 5rm 5rm 5ro 5rr 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5ur 5urSame deck that Xinef used last round.  I'd guess if we had extra Pendulums/Factories, Smokefree could use them as well.

  edunavas vs Boingo

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55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rj 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rt 5rt 5rtOr you can try the one he listed on the first page.  I haven't tested either deck or looked into the kinds of decks Aether has made.


36 Factories, 42 Pendulums, 15 Dragons.  Bleh, still using too many of 3 cards I think.

[Xinef]

I tried calculating what cards we have at our disposal after discarding and salvaging, and it's in the attachment.

We can convert 12 of these cards, and we can leave 18 cards in our vault. All the remaining cards have to be distributed between the 7 decks.

Of course we can still change the salvaging or discarding I assumed here, but this is roughly what we have.

It seems we should be able to give everyone enough pillars/pendulums, but damage dealers will be a problem. We are left with only 5 Devonian Dragons, so we have to use off-element creatures (Phoenixes, Purple/Obsidian Dragons, Eagle Eyes, Discords), Eternities, Scarabs, Pharaohs and Anubises as much as possible. Even that single Abomination will count.

I think we might even have to make a purely deck-outing deck against , to save damage dealers for other decks.

[valuka]

What about this deck vs 

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5rg 5rg 5rh 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ro 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rr 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61u
If they don't has PC, could work. Hopefully

[edunavas]

Valuka, I think this deckout deck is good against  and their miracles.

About my deck I think will do a better job than , and I prefer the deck I´ve made on page 1.

[Xinef]

Vs , the general idea we discussed in chat is to use an entropy based deckout deck, since we have so many entropy cards we should make 2 entropy decks.

Discords should stop miracles from coming, and should slow them down enough to make the deckout easier. BHs and Antimatters should help with healing. BHs even if they go for Glories. And this kind of quanta control might stop them from playing miracles for example. Also, if they use some kind of deck with PC, we can still use AMs and BHs to deck them out, and play discords 'just before they miracle' too.

I guess that's a versatile enough deck. Could be risky because it's a trio, but we simply have to test it.

The time part could be as simple as the few remaining sundials, 1 or 2 procrastinations, eternity, one rewind and a deja vu. There's no reason why we would rewind their creatures, since this deck's only winning condition would be deckout (... ok, or beating them with discord down to 0 hp).




As for the vs deck, the idea was to take fractal scarabs with phase shields. This way, if they go for quinted dragons and phase shields, we can outstall their phase shields with our own. If they go for any other deck, scarabs can eat it. If they take PC we can always play fractals before phase shields.



As for edunavas vs Boingo deck, I think we are left with 4 Momentums after losing some with the nova deck. Generally the deck should be based on momentumed dunes, since we have to conserve damage dealers, but if we can spare a dragon or two, this deck might need them. Pharaohs are also an option, but they are vulnerable to lobo. Dragons are vulnerable to lightnings, but that's what we have momentum for too. There's not much we can do against PU though... maybe a few rewinds or an eternity just in case.

[valuka]

Vs , the general idea we discussed in chat is to use an entropy based deckout deck, since we have so many entropy cards we should make 2 entropy decks.

Discords should stop miracles from coming, and should slow them down enough to make the deckout easier. BHs and Antimatters should help with healing. BHs even if they go for Glories. And this kind of quanta control might stop them from playing miracles for example. Also, if they use some kind of deck with PC, we can still use AMs and BHs to deck them out, and play discords 'just before they miracle' too.

I guess that's a versatile enough deck. Could be risky because it's a trio, but we simply have to test it.

The time part could be as simple as the few remaining sundials, 1 or 2 procrastinations, eternity, one rewind and a deja vu. There's no reason why we would rewind their creatures, since this deck's only winning condition would be deckout (... ok, or beating them with discord down to 0 hp).

The rewinds are not for their creatures, its in that case in deck, when the Eternities are deflagged.

[edunavas]

As for the vs deck, the idea was to take fractal scarabs with phase shields. This way, if they go for quinted dragons and phase shields, we can outstall their phase shields with our own. If they go for any other deck, scarabs can eat it. If they take PC we can always play fractals before phase shields.


As for edunavas vs Boingo deck, I think we are left with 4 Momentums after losing some with the nova deck. Generally the deck should be based on momentumed dunes, since we have to conserve damage dealers, but if we can spare a dragon or two, this deck might need them. Pharaohs are also an option, but they are vulnerable to lobo. Dragons are vulnerable to lightnings, but that's what we have momentum for too. There's not much we can do against PU though... maybe a few rewinds or an eternity just in case.

Will we use the same deck against the same opponent  hrmmm 2 rounds back??

Well...talking about my deck I~ve made some modifications.

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55q 55q 55q 55q 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rj 5rm 5rm 5ro 5ro 5rr 5rr 5rr 5rt 5rt 5rt
Tested and the quanta flows well. Almost games I come with a momentum and a scorpion that I can play on second round. The shields slows creatures until I can rewind them, if not immaterial.
I think precognitions will make the difference between victory and loss. This way I can antecipate if they have lightnings and shields to chain.

[Dragoon]

I'm not sure about some of our decks this round.  But we are severely limited.  One thing I'm worried about against Light is if they take one of their Bolt decks.  If that's the case we can't just stall.  If you guys end up giving valuka an Aether Duo I strongly suggest giving 1 Fractal to him plus an Anubis or two.  If he had those cards, he'd have two win conditions and at least a small chance against a Bolt deck.

I tested that entropy deck for me and it seems to run okay.  I'm not sure if it will be fast enough though against MrBlonde.  Guess it depends on what he plays and if I can draw a Demon fast enough.  I won't be on much tomorrow more than likely as it is holiday over here so feel free to give me whatever you think is best Xinef.

[Xinef]

If I'm correct last round, used 4 bolter decks, two based that lost and two based that won.

If they rebuild any of the water bolter decks by saving the ice bolts, I wouldn't be too much worried since discord scatters water quanta and BHs heal any damage the glories can do.
If they use the fire bolter deck, which is quite probable since they might be worried about our CC, then deflags are the main problem. As long as we can keep discords spreading their quanta, bolts shouldn't be a problem and only their main weapon, be it morning glory or fahrenheit, is a problem. I'm not sure if they have any deflags left in their vault. They haven't used deflags in their bolter decks. Maybe they won't take deflags against us too, since bolter decks are not vulnerable to eternity and procrastination.

I guess we could simply add some pharaohs to the deck (replacing the deja vu, which we, by the way, don't have anymore). Two could be sufficient I think.

[edunavas]

I´ve said 3 posts up, "Will we use the same deck against the same guy?"

I know we don´t have many options, but using the same deck is never a good idea.
Big mistake team.

I lost again...the deck was good against a fractal deck, but the others cards we have to put destroyed the strategy.

Well...we are not doing well this round...maybe you will cut me off...maybe others members too. I wish good luck.
I´ll be here, helping with the decks, I can create Matches topics...well..
I would like to say that I liked playing in team Time and next war would like to play again with you guys.