Round 4 Duels

[10 men]

Matchups:
10 men vs SpikeSpiegel - Lieutenant
Zso_Zso vs Hyroen - Lieutenant
PlayerOa vs Absol - Salvager
Anthraxx vs pikachufan2164 - Scout
Scaramanga vs UTAlan - Strategist
bripod vs inthisroom - Scout

Here we go.

no-general roster but stupid Event Card makes it meaningless.

Anyway, what would you like to play? Our options for the round are:

- Ghostal
- Time-Light Stall
- Ghostmare (up to two, but it will be more expected this round)
- mono Time
- Grabbow
- Poisondial
- Pharabow
We also have 5 Wings randomly lingering in our Vault still which are likely to be converted this round if no one wants them.

[bripod]

Decks used by Entropy vs Us so far this War.

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In Rnd 2 we lost to: (with LightStall)

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vl 4vl 4vl 7dm 7dm 7dm 7dm 7dm 8po

In Rnd 3 we won against: (with Pharaohbow)

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 6tt 6tt 8pq

(to be continued)

[bripod]

  Air only has 5 battles next Round.

They got a BYE. so they're gonna be able to have more flexibility in their decks.

Using ~150 cards from 237...

Just noticed and wanted it mentioned.


I say put Anthraxx vs Darkness as Salvager.
From our Scouting, we know that they have 2 Purify and 6 Sancts...
They battle, Us, Gravy, Fire & Death this Round

One more win and we get another Relic. They're pretty weak right now...

as for Up's... lets see what decks we might use and then see which one's will benefit from the ups...

[Anthraxx]

Darkness, oh how I hate thee...

Their options:
- ghostmare
- vader sader
- eq dev denial
- aether splash = lightnings and fractal dragon or vamps, PU dragon is an option too, but not sure what they already discard (no PU round 3)
- sanc stall
- mono

My mindgate says they will not bring ghostmare for the fear of feeding us more GotPs. Sader is very risky too cause RT deck will stomp over it. I don't feel mono is terribly good vs. time.

This leaves denial and aether duos on the table.  Sanc stall seems less likely, ghostmare win was so close, they know we'll probably not risk it again.

Our problem is lightning, if they take it, it hurts a majority of our decks so much it's unreal. Oa's win was close to being a miracle... Also, time relies heavily on good quantum income so they will for sure consider EQ deck as well.

Deck choices:
- creatureless poison dials - lightnings will be less dangerous but heavy draining deck (vamps/saders) could be an issue
- light duo could work, not the typical stall, just slower mono-type with nymphs and sancs + 2-3 eternities to deplete his PC and seal the deal with big hitter he can't really kill fast enough.

Example deck:

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5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ro 5ro 5rs 5rs 5ru 5ru 5s4 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 7q5 7q5 7qk 8pq

If possible, could use 4th (or even 5th!) upgrade (pharaoh).

Tested quite a bit now, works well vs. aether duos and if I were darkness general I'd bring same deck after the last ji's crushing defeat

[PlayerOa]

Against Air we have to use a quite flexible deck, as they have a lot of deck choices + a bye.

In R1 used this against us, using Exploding Times.

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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 5on 5on 5on 5on 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 7n5 7n5 8pk

In R2 used this against us, using Ghostal.

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5ia 5oc 5oc 5og 5og 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 624 7ms 7tb 8pr

In R3 we did not fight .
My bet would be using pharabow. It would most of the times beat both of the decks air using against us, and their grabbows would be too slow with our denial/speed. A few extra upgrades for this deck would be nice, as Air is the #1 team atm. Maybe something like this?

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Could unup a pharaoh or two if we cannot afford more upgrades to this deck.


And a side note: Anthraxx, looks great. I'd go with that.

[Zso_Zso]

Aether  decks used this war so far:
Round #1:

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Lost against    -12 cards!

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52h 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 713 713 8pk

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5la 5la 5li 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61u 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 8pu

Won against 

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5uq 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7ta 7td 8pt

Won against 

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61u 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 7dm 7dm 81q 8pm

Won against 

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5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 808 81q 8pq

Lost against    -12 cards!

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58o 58o 592 592 592 592 592 592 594 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77b 77b 8pm

Successful decks were: RoL/Hope, devtal, grabow, light-stall

Round #2:

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Won against 

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 590 590 590 590 590 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7dm 7dm 8pm

Lost against      -18 cards!

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Won against 

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5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jq 7jq 8pq

Lost against  -18 cards!

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58r 58r 592 592 592 594 594 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77c 77c 8pm

Lost against    -18 cards!

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61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61u 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 808 80g 80g 80g 80g 80g 80g 81q 8pu

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5of 5of 5og 5ol 5op 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7mv 7mv 8pr

Successful decks were:  grabow, light-stall, air-duo w/ PU, dragons and skyblitz

Round #3:

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Lost against      -24 cards!

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7dm 7t9 80g 80g 8pm

Won against 

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58r 58r 594 594 594 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77e 77e 77e 77e 77e 8pu

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52h 52q 594 5fc 5of 5of 5of 5of 5up 5up 5up 5ut 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61r 61v 61v 61v 61v 61v 61v 620 620 620 63a 63a 7n0 7n0 80a 8pu

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5la 5la 5la 5li 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 808 808 81q 81q 8pu

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5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7k6 7k6 7k6 8pq

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 81q 8po

Successful decks were:    -stall w/ gemfinders dragons and SS, RoL/Hope w/ miracle, light-stall w/ miracle
They lost w/ fire-stall and dragon-bow, so they must discard some of those

They lost against us with grabow and RoL/Hope so far.
They are likely running low on nova and/or graboid.

Their RoL/Hope was mixed success, they might try again with miracle included. Devtal is also an option for them, as well as the dragons + dimshield combos.

[10 men]

Decks!
Kind of an annoying round, I was hoping to see some opponents who are a little more limited in round 4, but they can still basically play anything. So I'll make a couple darttosses as usual. Thanks to everyone that helped collect intel.

General 10 men vs Water

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Hoping to get there with my 2 upgrade Sancstall, maybe they'll expect Ghostmare.
Lieutenant Scaramanga vs Fire

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This doesn't want to play against Sancstall but their random duos would be ok I guess.
Strategist Zso_Zso vs Air

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This should normally work, they can counter it with Dialgas but even there they got lucky. I don't expect them to think we'll use Ghostal again.
Assassin bripod vs Entropy

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Trying to overwhelm them with the power of Grabbow and a bunch of upgrades.
Salvager PlayerOa vs Darkness

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This should do fine against big CC decks as well as that Eq Denial thing. Let's conquer that 4th relic!
Scout Anthraxx

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Leaves Ghostmare for Aether, with double Nymph attack we can hopefully avoid the CC and if they play RoL get another RNG win.

[Anthraxx]

On my way to France atm, not sure I'll be able to test a bit before deadline, I think not... but deck looks solid enough. Hoping they won't play this RoL Hope, this is really a miracle to beat it ;(

[Scaramanga]

Fantastic. I still wonder if it isnt good to change that RT for a Pharao

[PlayerOa]

Oh, I am against Darkness now? Well, no worries
I'm quite sure that upping a Pharaoh instead of a Time Tower in my deck would be better, though.

[10 men]

Fantastic. I still wonder if it isnt good to change that RT for a Pharao

I thought about that and tested it a little, it's a pretty intriguing thought. However Time quanta are pretty scarce in the deck in its current form (you basically use everything on the Hourglass). Pharaoh there seems too slow. Though if we modify the deck to have more quanta it might work. But this round we're very limited in our quanta supply so we won't do it now. Maybe another round when our pillarbase is not under as much pressure anymore we'll try it.


@Anthraxx: Did you see the PM I sent you? You still need to post in the Scouting thread, you can do that in the next 10 hours, the deadline has been extended.

[Anthraxx]

Hey, I updated the last post in the scouting thread. Isn't that enough? I thought we only keep one topic reserved for scouting :p